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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:56 AM
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Dianne Rehm Show: Cheney, uh, obstructing justice re 9/11
Just about 15 minutes ago Susan Paige of US Today, sitting in for Dianne Rehm, read an email from someone who says his or her spouse works in the office of the VP. Apparently, the office got a subpoena yesterday for all documents relating to 9/11. Cheney decided to interpret the subpoena as requesting all information dated September 11, 2001 (at least that's what I think I heard). Cute. The topic of the show is whether the Bush administration is hostile to the truth.
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amish_enforcer Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:23 AM
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1. Forgive my ignorance.....
what network is this show on? I'm unfamiliar....

As for the story, yeah, cute is a way to describe it :eyes:

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:30 AM
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2. NPR
national Public Radio
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ILeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:36 AM
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7. aka: National Propaganda Radio
...with a very few exceptions.
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annak110 Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:01 AM
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13. I've called in NCR, National Corporate Radio for many
years. Corporations "reorganized" what was supposed to be public radio right after they started funding it which was just after the rwnuts bullied and propagandized against "public funding" of that media outlet.

National Propaganda Radio is good too.
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amish_enforcer Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:55 AM
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10. thanks!
...actually now I do think I know of the show, I listen to NPR here and there.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:32 AM
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3. NPR...
... this is one of the few shows with any credibility left on NPR IMHO. Diane Rehm is not there this week, on vacation, but I can say that as a talk show host she gets my respect 100%.

I don't always agree with her tack, but she doesn't let anyone shout the other side down, she doesn't let them make wild unsubstantiated claims, and she strives and usually achieves a civil discourse on the subject at hand.

This country could use 100 more of her IMHO.

(Needless to say - nothing she can do would overcome my disgust with NPR news, Morning Edition and All Things Considered in particular. They are a lost cause.)
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:05 AM
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15. I listen to her in the Baltimore area - she is fair and intelligent.
nt
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Jack The Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:32 AM
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4. Like they said to Clinton - WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE?
Only guilty parties obstruct quests for the truth.

Cheney is a bloated swine.

God, I hope all of these criminals go to jail. What are the chances of that? ..sigh
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drscm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:51 AM
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9. He may be a bloated swine,
but there are those who say he looks pretty in lipstick.
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Mithras61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:56 AM
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11. What they are trying to hide
Their complicity in the tragedy, of course. As has been said on DU repeatedly, they knew. They let it happen for their own nefarious purposes. Now they are trying to cover their butts as the heat gets turned up on scandal after scandal after scandal.

What boggles me are the apologists for these cretins, who claim that no one could have guessed that 9/11 would happen (even though there are several intelligence reports claiming it was highly likely), that no one would let that sort of thing happen (even though there is resounding proof that they did), that even if Bush lied about nukes, Saddam was a "bad man" (not part of his pre-war runup or a valid reason to invade a sovreign nation) and he had chemical and bio-weapons that he hid by sending them to his neighbors (the same neighbors that he fought several wars with and intimidated repeatedly, right?), and that it doesn't really matter if * lied (even though he did it, and it WAS under oath (the oath of office, if nothing else)and they impeached WJC for lying under oath about something that harmed nothing but his relationship with his wife) and so on.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 02:39 PM
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20. Not a snowball's chance in
hell, zilch.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:36 AM
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5. It depends on what the definition of ...
This must be Cheney's defining moment.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:36 AM
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6. If Cheney were anyone else
He would already be in jail for comtempt.
Why isnt he being impeached?
He actually manages to make Spiro Agnew look good!

This is not a government, this is a massive criminal organisation which should be subject to RICO, in a sane world.
:mad:
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:44 AM
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8. what show is this?
i can't seem to get a transcript on npr.org searching for paige & cheney.
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 12:03 PM
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18. It's the Diane Rehm Show
It's broadcast from WAMU-FM American University in Washington, D.C. I know Diane and her husband, John, very well personally, and they are solid Democrats.
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:59 AM
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12. Hostile to the truth? Oh, no:
how could they be hostile to something they don't acknowledge exists?
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:02 AM
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14. Legal nitpicking re language: depends on the meaning of "is"
One reason legal documents are so long and convoluted is the need to prevent clever people from "reasonably" interpreting them differently than what they obviously, logically mean. Whoever drafted the subpoena was guilty of sloppy lawyering. "Documents relating to 9/ll" is a lazy piece of writing. It should have read something like: All communications, correspondence and/or documents, including emails, faxes,interdepartmental or interagency communications, hand-written or other notations of phone or personal conversations, phone logs, records of phone calls made or received, minutes of meetings, attendance records of meetings, (blah, blah,blah for every possible description along these lines) relating in any manner to the terrorist attacks occurring on September 11, 2001, whether prior or subsequent to that date, including any communications, meetings, studies, reports (again blah, blah, blah) warning of or anticipating or preparing for terrorist activity against the United States. This includes any of the items above generated, sent from , copied to or received by Vice-president Chaney or any individual or legal entity acting in his behalf or in behalf of the office of the Vice-President of the United States. And I just dashed this off. If I were really the attorney preparing this, I would have pulled up a lot of previous subpoenas of govt. officials/offices and made damn sure I included every possible sub-class of discoverable material.

Now Chaney's office probably will wait until the last possible day to reply, send in pretty much worthless stuff according to their definition of what was requested, and the other side will have to schedule an argument in court to compel discovery, and the judge could reasonably rule that their subpoena was inadequate, and THEN they have to start all over again. They made it easy for Chaney to stall.
What they should do now is immediately draft a proper subpoena and get it issued, and just forget about the first one.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:16 AM
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16. And in the meantime, they call "Ollie, By Gollie Document 'Storage'..."
To bring their special "Document Concentrators" in and pack everything in tight little (illegible) bundles of hampster bedding...
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msanger Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 11:32 AM
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17. sounds alot like watergate
A spouse of somebody who works for the VP. It sounds like people from the inside are finally starting to talk. This reminds me of the scences from "All The President's Men" where the reporters keep running into people who won't talk, but finally somebody does.

And then the dam breaks.

michael - founder of

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 12:53 PM
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19. Has There Been A Confirmation Of This?
Anyone can say anything in an electronic message.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-03 10:34 PM
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21. The only way to confirm will be to follow the suit to which this
order pertains...if all the documents are dated 9/11/01.
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