Stonewall Democrats issue warning to would-be candidates

davidinalameda

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Thu Jul-10-03 02:05 PM
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Stonewall Democrats issue warning to would-be candidates

http://www.advocate.com/new_news.asp?ID=9220&sd=07/10/03

A prominent national organization of gay Democrats has joined the growing list of groups putting pressure on potential presidential candidates regarding their support for a highly controversial constitutional amendment to deny marriage rights to lesbians and gay men.

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jpgray

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Thu Jul-10-03 02:11 PM
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1. Who knows who the four Dem sponsors were?

That's very despicable, and a certain deal-breaker for me, though I am heterosexual.

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davidinalameda

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Thu Jul-10-03 02:17 PM
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2. there are 3 now

One of the original co-sponsors lost his re-election bid in 2002. He was forced to run against a sitting Republican member in Mississippi.

The bi-partisan cosponsors of the Federal Marriage Amendment are: Collin Peterson (D-MN), Mike McIntyre (D-NC), Ralph Hall (D-TX), Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO), Jo Ann Davis (R-VA), David Vitter (R-LA).

Here's the link to the group pushing it. It really pisses me off that a former Democratic delegate from DC is part of the group--Walter Fauntroy

http://www.allianceformarriage.org/reports/fma/fma.htm

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goobergunch

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Thu Jul-10-03 04:11 PM
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6. Full co-sponsor list

Edited on Thu Jul-10-03 04:14 PM by goobergunch

Sponsor: Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. (introduced 5/21/2003) Cosponsors: 32
Rep Akin, W. Todd - 6/10/2003
Rep Barrett, J. Gresham - 7/8/2003
Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. - 6/2/2003
Rep Burgess, Michael C. - 6/10/2003
Rep Burns, Max - 7/8/2003
Rep Collins, Mac - 7/8/2003
Rep Davis, Jo Ann - 5/21/2003
Rep DeMint, Jim - 6/10/2003
Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. - 6/2/2003
Rep Hall, Ralph M. - 5/21/2003
Rep Hayes, Robin - 7/8/2003
Rep Isakson, Johnny - 6/24/2003
Rep Istook, Ernest J., Jr. - 6/10/2003
Rep Johnson, Sam - 6/10/2003
Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. - 6/10/2003
Rep Kennedy, Mark R. - 6/24/2003
Rep King, Steve - 6/24/2003
Rep Lewis, Ron - 6/25/2003
Rep McIntyre, Mike - 5/21/2003
Rep Miller, Jeff - 6/25/2003
Rep Norwood, Charlie - 6/10/2003
Rep Pence, Mike - 6/10/2003
Rep Peterson, Collin C. - 5/21/2003
Rep Pitts, Joseph R. - 6/2/2003
Rep Rogers, Mike D. - 7/8/2003
Rep Ryun, Jim - 6/10/2003
Rep Souder, Mark E. - 6/24/2003
Rep Stenholm, Charles W. - 7/8/2003
Rep Vitter, David - 5/21/2003
Rep Wamp, Zach - 7/8/2003
Rep Weldon, Dave - 6/2/2003
Rep Wilson, Joe - 6/2/2003

on edit: No Senate companion measure.
The Dems are in bold, but I'm just doing the parties from memory, so there could be mistakes.

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Dhalgren

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Thu Jul-10-03 02:19 PM
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3. Absolutely, we must know which Dem Reps

support this garbage! I feel strongly that this amendment will never pass, but there is absolutely no point in its being put forward. For the love of god, this is a family issue, can no one see that!? This is just another facist/christianist stab at disenfranchising somebody....anybody.

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genius

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Thu Jul-10-03 03:50 PM
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4. The candidates are all supportive of gay rights

Howard Dean is currently the least supportive of gay rights and he feels that states have the right to approve civil unions - though he opposes a federal civil unions bill. It's the guys who are not running that are the problem.

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IndianaGreen

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Thu Jul-10-03 04:04 PM
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5. The issue is not as simplistic as you make it sound

Ask yourself who voted for DOMA, a federal intrusion in what used to be a state issue?

Yet, many of those that voted for DOMA, also voted for ENDA!

Civil unions is a state matter, not federal. This is why I think DOMA is unconstitutional.

The best solution is an Equal Rights Amendment that includes gender and sexual orientation.

Howard Dean is currently the least supportive of gay rights

False statement on your part! Dean is more supportive of gay rights than Lieberman, Kerry, Graham, Edwards, and Gephardt.

I believe Kucinich supports gay marriage, but I'll let the Kucinich supporters verify this.

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David__77

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Thu Jul-10-03 05:30 PM
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7. Kucinich, Moseley-Braun and Sharpton are pro-same gender marriage.

But, I suppose they can "afford" to be.

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xchrom

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Thu Jul-10-03 07:16 PM
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8. on notice is right

gay folks vote -- and we notice how much support we get.

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revcarol

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Thu Jul-10-03 09:17 PM
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9. I watched a G/L show on our public channel the other day.

They fried Dean for breakfast.

They said that ,"of the leading candidates," only Kucinich was acceptable.

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pasadenademocrat

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Fri Jul-11-03 12:10 AM
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10. only Kucinich acceptable

I love all the litmus tests we put people through.

All of the democratic candidates are an improvement over Bush/Cheney/Ashcroft.

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