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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:17 PM
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ABC: Ambulances on Alert (Could Be Used by Terrorists)
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/US/ambulance_terror_040818-1.html

The very lights and sirens that urge us to make way when we see and hear an ambulance approaching could be powerful tools in the hands of terrorists intent on using that very promise of help to camouflage a bomb.

Incidents using ambulances to deliver bombs occur with some regularity in the Middle East. Recently, 10 people were killed in one such incident in Iraq.

On Aug. 1, U.S. officials warned that al Qaeda terrorists could be planning attacks on financial institutions in New York City, New Jersey and Washington, D.C.

ABC News has learned that in the wake of that alert, authorities in the Northeast are investigating at least four incidents where people asked suspicious, detailed questions of firefighters and emergency personnel about how ambulances are operated — how fast they go, and when drivers should turn on the siren.


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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:21 PM
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1. Terra
I always thought they went for Ice Cream trucks
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:25 PM
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2. In Detroit, the ice cream trucks are also running gambling operations
When I lived in the city, I noticed this. One day, I was home from work and it was a school day. The ice cream man pulled up to the house across the street and from my porch (I lived in an upper flat at the time) I could see him with my neighbors, shooting dice on the counter of the truck!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:31 PM
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3. This morning
while driving only 10 miles to the farm I saw 4 dump trucks all at different places all pulled over with police cars. I wondered WTF? It seemed odd. Everyone is just going nuts if this kind of thing is happening.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:33 PM
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4. They could also use hot air balloons
Those innocent looking Remax (and other) balloons flying overhead could be hijacked by terrorists and stuffed with explosives or even anthrax. When gently drifting across the cityscape, the payload could be dropped with devastating consequences.

Just one more thing you could be terrified about. This game is easy to play. Pretty well anything could hypothetically be used by ill intentioned people. It is an existential risk we have lived with forever. It is just that our buttons keep being pushed these days, by people that want to use our fear to manipulate us.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:37 PM
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6. Or Blimps - Fuji Film, MetLife, Goodyear
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:35 PM
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5. Enough
Enough!

ENOUGH!!!!!!!

ENOUGH OF THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!!!!

Sharks! Satanic child molesters! Carjackers! Killer bees! Dangerous child safety seats! Dangerous SUVs! Dangerous self-shredding SUV tires! Defective elevators! Defective escalators! Homicidal husbands! Defective child safety caps on medicine bottles! Asprin! Tylenol! Vicodin! Fen-Phen! Obesity! Dieting! Cancer! Asbestosis! Diabetes! Heart attacks! Chronic fatigue syndrome! Cher music videos! Online pornography! Online chat rooms! Online bulletin board services! Email! Computer viruses! West Nile Virus! Anthrax! Plague! Ebola! Al-Qaeda germ labs! Al-Qaeda nuclear weapons! Al-Qaeda chemical weapons! Iraqi germ labs! Iraqi nuclear weapons! Iraqi chemical weapons! Iraqi remote-piloted drones dispensing germs, bombs and chemical weapons! Iranian germ labs! Iranian nuclear weapons! Iranian chemical weapons! Iranian remote-piloted drones dispensing germs, bombs and chemical weapons! Mountain lions! Automobile airbags! Fire ants! Botulism! Hurricanes! Scott Peterson! Tornadoes! Hail! Rainstorms! Drainage ditches! Cars sitting in the sun with the windows rolled up on hot summer days! Cars sitting in the snow with the windows rolled up during blizzards! Tree houses! Segways! Jellyfish! Chiggers! Mosquitoes! Terrorist frogmen! Terrorist suicide bombers! Terrorist suicide ambulance drivers! Terrorist gasoline tanker truck drivers! Terrorist milk tanker truck drivers! Terrorist suicide ice-cream truck drivers! Terrorists who tamper with inexpensive imported prescription drugs from Canada!

Did I miss anything/anyone else we're all supposed to be afraid of?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 12:44 PM
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7. Whew!
I agree with you. It seems fear is what motivates people. It is sad our society is so afraid, but acts so "macho." If you are prudent, then just live your life! Life is too short to be afraid of everything!

Side note: We should also fear religious nuts (of any kind) trying to take over governments!

Brightest Blessings!
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:02 PM
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8. You Forgot
MATCOM
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:04 PM
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9. Damn! Not only did I forget Matcom, even more egregiously, I forgot . . .
both Mopaul AND Catwoman!

AAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! RUN!!
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 08:08 PM
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29. and CORNDOGS!!
:scared:
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:07 PM
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10. Republicans, Hatrack. Be Very Afraid.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:09 PM
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12. I thought I included "Satanic child molesters" & "Homicidal Husbands"
Didn't I? :evilgrin:
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 02:11 PM
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22. My bad. You did.....
Did you remebr to include Lying Sacks of Shit?
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okoboji Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:39 PM
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15. yes
paper shredders ... very very dangerous
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 07:40 PM
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26. Clowns. The kids and I are afraid of clowns.
Also, I'm quite nervous about birthday party balloons being filled with anthrax and popping at the party.

And bottle caps from those small bottles of water: I'm afraid of them being a choking hazard.

And I'm nervous that the school nurse won't do CPR right since my kids are obviously going to need it.

I'm nervous that even thinking that is somehow going to jinx me.

Shit, somebody get me some valium. Or haul me out and bury me next to my mom. I can't take this anymore.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:08 PM
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11. Does chimp still pay Hollywood screenwriters to invent these
scenarios? Last month fox was ablaze with news of "suitcase nukes", now this.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:15 PM
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13. Who said they don't have imagination?
Ever since they got burned on that "flying planes into buildings" thing, the Repukes have gone on a binge of fantastical terror scenarios.

How about, instead of being frightened by random oxygen molecules, we concentrate on treating people nicer, here and around the world, so that they don't have any reason to hate us? Shit, I know four-year-olds who get the concept. Why is it so hard for the alleged grown-ups in this corrupt administration?
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sandraj Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 08:50 PM
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31. Because it would make too much sense.
It would also fail to turn a profit.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:18 PM
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14. OK, great. So WTF are we supposed to do different?
I know if I see an ambulance, I'm going to just ram it with my car to try to save as many innocent lives as possible.

Either that or if I see one stopped somewhere, I'll block it in with my car to prevent it escaping.

Or perhaps I'll just call the police every time I see an ambulance.

WTF is the point of these warnings? If terrorists are going to steal a bus, truck, ambulance, or goatcart and blow it up somewhere, there just ain't much we can do about it.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:42 PM
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16. You need to be still more afraid, while remaining calm. Of course.
Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 01:44 PM by kayell
Oh I forgot, get a few more rolls of duct tape. If you stretch them across the street, the wonders of duct tape will trap the terrorist ambulances.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 02:18 PM
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23. And above all, KEEP SHOPPING!
But watch out for the terraists in those shopping malls.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:52 PM
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17. I can see it now
Some one is going to die because some zealot is going to go crazy and stop the ambulance from helping a seriously injured person.
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Princess Turandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:52 PM
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18. They have had ambulances on the list of suspicious vehicles..
in NYC for a long time now, because they are so ubiquitous. Some of them actually have a post where they are to stay until summoned for an emergency in their zone. People don't look twice at them, unless there is a rescue going on.

I'm aware of a situation which occured at a NYC hospital earlier this year, where a repair vendor, angry that he wasn't being paid timely, sent 2 of his guys to 'car-nap' 2 ambulances from the hospital's parking area during the night. He was planning to hold onto them until he got paid, I think. (They had keys to the vehicles.) As soon as they were discovered missing, the hospital called the police, who called the FBI, who basically put out an APB on the vehicles. The repairguy heard a report on the radio, called in that he had them, and was met at the NYC side of the Brooklyn Bridge, where he and his pals were arrested for grand theft auto among other things.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 01:54 PM
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19. THEY USED THIS ONE ALREADY!
Just like Scuba-queda. It has all been screamed before. Their campaign is clear: FEAR.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 02:03 PM
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20. Choking in restaurants now strictly forbidden!
:eyes:
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 02:10 PM
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21. & Christmas time, watch out for the guys in the red suits...............!!
No never mind......by then the election will be over and you will be encouraged to go see Santa at the mall and shop, shop, shop until you drop!!!
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:44 PM
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24. Will the scuba divers be driving the ambulances?
If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.
Are we still looking for the floating
garbage that may be WMDs?


:eyes:
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Retrograde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 08:30 PM
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30. no, they get the UPS trucks
Another ubiquitous vehicle that parks whereever it wants to.

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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 07:32 PM
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25. Hell, im still getting over the fear of intercontinental
unmaned airplane drones from Iraq. :eyes:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 07:59 PM
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28. Hey, that TNT movie/mini-series called The Grid
(stupid movie, a waste of my time) showed how a terra-ist could escape using emergency vehicles, etc.

Most writers could come up with some pretty good plans I bet.
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