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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 06:18 PM
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The US knew, Spain knew, Britain knew. Whose coup was it?
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The gossip and rumour within British and American intelligence circles points towards the UK and US certainly knowing that the coup was in the offing – even if there was no direct participation. However, some intelligence figures in African countries have claimed that agents of MI6 and the CIA had been telling senior figures in Equatorial Guinea’s military and intelligence services that if a coup did take place that they should sit tight, hold still and not defend Obiang. It is claimed that Britain and America intelligence agents told the military and intelligence chiefs of Equatorial Guinea that in return for their inaction they would be well looked after by any post-coup government.

Britain, it appears, had foreknowledge. A South African intelligence report detailing suspicions about a coup attempt in Equatorial Guinea is known to have been seen by British intelligence quite some time before the coup plot was rumbled. The report also links members of the Equatorial Guinea plot with the bloodless coup that took place in Sao Tome and Principe in July 2003. It was from Sao Tome and Principe that some of the mercenaries are thought to have travelled to Equatorial Guinea.

Zimbabwe, which is in an effective state of cold war with Britain, reserved most of its ire and accusations for the UK. The country’s home affairs minister, Kembo Mohadi, said the mercenaries “were aided by the British secret service – that is MI6 – American Central Intelligence Agency and the Spanish secret service”.

Zimbabwe’s foreign minister, Stan Mudenge, even claimed that the coup plot was a lot more elaborate than just an attempt to overthrow Equatorial Guinea’s dictator. He said: “Apparently, this was not one mission … after the diversion in Equatorial Guinea, they were going to the DRC .”

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http://www.sundayherald.com/44412
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 06:25 PM
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1. They must have some oil

to have that attention from the BFEE and their lackeys around
the world.
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nyhuskyfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 06:28 PM
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2. Ding Ding Ding
I watched a 60 minutes episode on Equatorial Guinea not so long ago. They recently discovered vast amounts of oil off their shore and the Texas boys came in no time to start their digging. The government leaders of EG now live in posh mansions or Paris hotels with Rolls Royces and the works, while the people remain poor.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 06:41 PM
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3. Damn....
I remember an article from a Zimbabwa site that talked about the appearance of American generals in the oil-rich western countries of Africa.

I'll try to dig it up.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 06:42 PM
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4. A lot going on under the radar in Africa.
Luscious mineral resources.

But I can only think in personal terms. I worked with a tall young African man who read every self-help book he could find on go-getting and getting rich. And one day, a short discussion of his childhood. How his mother had sent him away to relatives across the border for safety when he was quite small, and he only saw her occasionally thereafter. He was well-mannered, with the widest smile, but he refused to let anyone get very close. Why bother?

There were a number of Africans where I was. When I asked the specific country, they didn't believe I would ever have heard of it, or they had changed countries a number of times...(It reminded me of a college classmate from West Africa who also hated to say where he was from.) In the same place, I sat next to some natives of Domenica, a small island in the West Indies? They talked about it all the time, and showed pictures (they live in the shadow of a volcano). In fact, the only people I've ever met who didn't want to talk about home were citizens of African nations.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 06:52 PM
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5. The Dogs of War
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-04 07:04 PM
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6. Powell says he knows nothing of any coup plans ( LMAO )
I wonder how many? knows nothing of any coup plans.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 05:32 PM
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:37 PM
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11. The US State Department and international
Edited on Sun Aug-29-04 09:42 PM by sattahipdeep
rights groups accuse Equatorial Guinea of
routine torture in prison and other rights abuses.

UNBELIEVABLE!

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/africa/story.jsp?story=555588

______________________________________________________

And in most of the pictures, the Americans are
laughing, posing, pointing, or giving the camera
a thumbs-up.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/27/60II/main614063.shtml


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lottie244 Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 05:59 PM
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8. If the third world countries want to stop these coups they should execute
the perps. We claim that capital punishment is a deterent...ok, that should prove it!!
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 06:29 PM
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9. The men behind the 'Guinean plot'? (third world?)






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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-04 09:02 PM
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10. US Spies 'got coup plot tip'
A BRITISH businessman blew the whistle on the coup allegedly backed by Mark Thatcher, it was claimed yesterday.

The target of the coup, President Obiang of oil-rich Equatorial Guinea, named Greg Wales as part of a damages claim in the High Court in London.

He claims in court papers that Wales was involved in the plot but tipped off MI6 and the Pentagon.

Wales is said to be a close associate of Simon Mann, the ex-SAS officer convicted last week in Zimbabwe of attempting to possess dangerous weapons to be used in the plot.
<snip>

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=14585057&method=full&siteid=89488&headline=us-spies--got-coup-plot-tip--name_page.html
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