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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:05 PM
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Aryan Nations founder Richard Butler dies
Edited on Wed Sep-08-04 05:07 PM by derby378
Richard G. Butler, the notorious white supremacist who founded the Aryan Nations and was once dubbed the "elder statesman of American hate," has died at the age of 86, authorities said Wednesday.

Butler died peacefully in his sleep, sheriff's Capt. Ben Wolfinger told The Associated Press. The time of death was not immediately known.

...

Butler, a longtime admirer of Adolf Hitler and white supremacist religious teaching, had moved to Idaho in the early 1970s, claiming later that he was impressed by its high percentage of white residents. To the dismay of many locals, the region became known as a place hospitable to white supremacist groups.

Butler's church held that whites are the true children of God, that Jews are the offspring of Satan and that blacks and other minorities are inferior.

The compound drew skinheads, ex-convicts and others from the fringes of society. Over the years, Butler's disciples included some of the most notorious figures in the white supremacist movement.


http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/apus_story.asp?category=1110&slug=Obit%20Butler

I recommend reading the entire article - some really fascinating (and scary) stuff in there about Aryan Nations and some of its offshoots.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:06 PM
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1. may his soul
rot in hell
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:06 PM
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2. The fucking bastard can't be dead enough
Rot in hell Richard Butler
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:37 PM
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24. Maybe we should drive a stake in his heart..
...just to make sure? Oh..nevermind, didn't have one.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:06 PM
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3. Gosh, I'm just all broken up . . .
NOT!!!!!!!!
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:06 PM
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4. He must be feeling pretty hot right now. n/t
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:07 PM
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5. Died peacefully!
May his karma overwhelm him!

Jenn
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:07 PM
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6. A special place in hell
all his own.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:08 PM
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7. Guy sounds like a terrorist. Why wasn't he hauled away?
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PeaceForever Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 06:35 PM
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38. Were you being sarcastic?
It's not illegal to be a racist asshole, according to that whole tradition centered around the 1st Amendment.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:34 AM
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56. Yes and no
I was being sarcastic about this country and who they perceive as terrorist and who they don't. The administration just said to Putin that he should sit down with the terrorist for a talk. Do you think that these groups only are racists? They are organized and at times murdering enterprises. This isn't your next door neighbor who hates any group and you have to put up with their hatred. These are funded, organized groupsn that plot and plan strategies to eliminate anyone they choose to hate. A guy can hate me next door for being black. I can't do much about it. He burns a cross in front of my house, he's goes to jail.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:09 PM
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8. Recommended reading: THE SILENT BROTHERHOOD
Talks about the rise of Aryan Nations, its compound in Idaho, and the rise and fall of "The Order," which drew many followers from Aryan Nations as well as the KKK, the CSA, and the National Alliance.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:09 PM
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9. When he meets his Maker,
he may be shocked, especially if She appears in one of her darker forms, like Kali....
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 07:50 PM
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47. I doubt even Kali
would want that bastards head
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:09 PM
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10. He didn't deserve
such a long life.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:10 PM
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11. Won't it be funny...
when he sees Jesus is Jewish and dark-skinned?

...that would be just before he's thrown into the pit of hell along with his buddy, Adolph.

...if you operate under the assumptions of fundie beliefs, that is.

Whatever the case, at least he's no longer walking this earth.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:11 PM
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12. Where is his grave?
so that I may piss upon it.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:13 PM
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13. YAAAAAY!
Burn in Hell you stupid cur!
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:16 PM
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14. Good.
The only problem is that it wasn't sooner and more drawn out and violent.

I hope he burns in hell.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:17 PM
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15. Great news!
Blessings on you, Morris Dees, for curbing this shitheel while he lived.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:17 PM
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16. May I spit ? ...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:18 PM
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17. Another great Republican gone....
steadfast in his devotion to gun rights, state rights, and other causes near and dear to the GOP heart...
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 07:04 PM
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41. And a [George] Lincoln [Rockwell] Republican, at that!
n/t
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Romulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:19 PM
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18. couldn't have happened to a nicer guy
Butler, born in Colorado and trained as an aeronautical engineer, claimed he became admirer of Hitler while serving the United States Army Air Corps during World War II. He said Hitler "led a nation, a division of our race, to fight for the life of our race."

So he was a traitor, too? :shrug:
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richmwill Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:19 PM
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19. Biggest smile I've had all day
May his family suffer in their "grief", as his soul prepares to spend an eternity in the deepest pits of hell, forever in torment.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:29 PM
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20. One less vote for Bush!
But I still don't like our chances in Idaho.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:09 PM
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50. I seriously doubted he voted for any mainstream candidates
even the Shrub.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:30 PM
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21. I don't believe in heaven/hell
So this motherfucker can just rot in the ground slowly while worms crawl through the meaningless crevices in his meaningless body.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:31 PM
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22. I interviewed him in the '80s for my college paper
He was very articulate yet completely batshit insane.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:36 PM
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23. awwwww...

good
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:39 PM
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25. I THOUGHT the birds were singing just a little bit louder
the sun a little brighter, my novacaine even more fucking annoying than Friday.. oh wait, that last bit didn't fit.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:46 PM
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26. Either you're with us or against us...coined by kkkristian Butler
inherited by GOP kkkristian bush...brothers of the dark. May he burn in hell...
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AutumnMist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:48 PM
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27. May He
Have found love somewhere in his heart. I can only hope that his bitter soul found the light of love for all people before he died. To have died with such hate and anger would have eaten a once full soul alive. Its amazing what pain we will inflict when we believe that we have the right to condemn others for being different than ourselves.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:08 PM
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49. Welcome to DU AutumnMist !
:hi: Love your signature.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:49 PM
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28. This is so sad.
So sad that the sack of shit lived so long.

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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 10:50 PM
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48. I'm really suprised and disappointed in all of you!!!
You are being way too civil.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:50 PM
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29. Yipee! Another Nazi is dead!
Oops! They're making more...

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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:57 PM
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30. MSNBC says that Bush will be attending his funeral!
Cheney may be going as well! I guess BushCo is really looking to shore up their base!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 07:46 PM
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44. youre kidding me
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:22 PM
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53. He'll attend the funeral of a TERRORIST but not any soldiers'??????
Talk about fucking up your priorities.

I can't believe there are morans in this country who still believe BushCo is Moderate.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:55 AM
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58. John Ashcroft sends his condolences.
eom


John
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:58 PM
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31. I want to take a dump on his grave...
...or is that too evil? :evilgrin:
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:59 PM
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32. Good riddence
another nasty throwback gone. Wish it had happened fifty years sooner.
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 06:02 PM
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33. "Move over, Strom. Comin' down!" n/t
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 06:12 PM
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34. Yikes! All I saw was "Richard Butler dies"
And I thought you meant the lead singer for the Psychedelic Furs.

Thank GOD it was a white supremacist!
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 06:49 PM
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40. Me too. Loved the Furs.
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Big Kahuna Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 06:26 PM
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35. What's the point of speaking curses like that against the dead?
He was a human being, and started off in life as a beautiful, innocent kid like we all have. He ended life as an insane hate-spewing dirtbag. He has a lot of bad shit that he learned in life, to un-learn, and a lot of consequences to face in the afterlife or the next life. As we all have to face, just on a grander scale in his case.

Again, what's the point? Do you feel better having spit on someone's grave? Does it make up for your inaction against him during his life?

I am not defending him. He caused much harm in the world, and led many people down a very dark path. We should not rejoice his death, but mourn another sick, wasted life.

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PeaceForever Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 07:46 PM
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45. I agree. You stated it really well.
However, we may differ as to what kind of action would have been appropriate. I believe Richard Butler, like all racists, was a man who should have been given love. Love is the great persuader. Racism is caused by bitterness and a lack of love in one's life.
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cayanne Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 06:26 PM
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36. Won't be missed up here
Butler had most of the wind knocked out of his sails up here in north Idaho, thanks to Morris Dees. However, there are scarier groups scattered around here and the rest of the nation that are worse than Butler's Aryan group. Thank goodness they're only a few percentage of the entire population. Mostly the people up here are wonderful, warm and friendly, given that they are mostly conservatives.
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Big Kahuna Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 06:30 PM
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37. And what's up with the weird Merv Griffin / Apocolpse thing? :)
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leftist. Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 06:41 PM
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39. NOTE TO BUSH, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, ET.AL.
Hey next time you jackballs want to start fighting with other people, maybe you can do it with *these* douchebags who are actually a FUCKING THREAT TO OUR WAY OF LIFE AND HAVE ACTUALLY ATTACKED US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As a bonus, most of the poll-tested lines you guys drop will even work in such a scenario, "They hate us for our freedoms(TM)" and such-like. And since picking on light-skinned people is sure to cause some upset in your ranks, maybe you guys can sleep better knowing that there's probably some Quaker State or something stockpiled in one of the compounds.

You fuckers!

And Fuck Butler too. Thanks for all the killing baby, it was fun while it lasted wasn't it.

Probably the best piece of post-mortem symbolism we can offer this asshole is to print everything he ever wrote and put it out as far and wide as we possibly can; the more that *civilized* people understand what real terrorists like him believe, the more people will be *disgusted* by it. And hey, maybe we keep a few buildings standing, eh? But then, what fun is that if we don't get to "nuke some A-rab sand countries into glass", right? Daddy might be pissed.

The enema line forms here: me first, then the White House.
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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 07:14 PM
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42. Save your piss for bush's grave
this guy ain't nothin'
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 07:38 PM
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43. its no fair that he got to live so long
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AlFrankenFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 07:49 PM
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46. Jesus....I was going to say my condolences...
but holy shit. Not only only am I a Jew, but over half my relatives were killed because of Hitler. This is scary that such radicals are still alive...just one less now I suppose.
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:20 PM
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51. In other news, Satan ordered an immediate evacuation of Hell
Just to free up enough space for this asswipe.

Burn in Hell, Butler, burn in Hell with your little Nazi buddies. :grr:
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GaryL Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:21 PM
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52. Awwwww!
Good!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:25 PM
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54. Let's crash the burial...
We can wear Stars of David, turbans, and Kente cloth garments.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 11:27 PM
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55. Oh, that's right ...
he was bankrupted over that woman his 'guards' beat up because her car backfired while she was driving past the 'compound'. At least the bankruptcy doubtless curtailed the damage he was able to do in his declining years.

I can't piss on anybody's grave, but that he's no longer around takes one man's contribution of hatred out of the world.

And so it goes.
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Mrs_Beastman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-04 07:38 AM
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57. I wonder if there is a special hell for people like that
To live your whole life hating a group of people can't be too mentally healthy,also.
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