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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 09:45 AM
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Pelosi, colleagues challenge Bush on war
Pelosi, colleagues challenge Bush on war
Rising doubts in Congress about Iraq's direction


Washington -- Rep. Nancy Pelosi of San Francisco, fresh from a visit with wounded soldiers brought home from Iraq, took to the House floor Friday and blistered President Bush's conduct of the war in Iraq, calling it a "catastrophic failure.''

"Under the present plan, there is no end in sight to the chaos, the tragedy, the quagmire this administration has taken us into,'' the House minority leader told a largely empty chamber as the body met in a brief pro- forma session after recessing Wednesday afternoon for the Jewish holiday of Rosh Hashanah.

"It's clear this administration didn't know what it's getting into, or else it misled the American people,'' charged Pelosi, who voted against the resolution in October 2002 authorizing Bush to launch military operations in Iraq, where more than 1,000 American service personnel have now been killed.

Her comments stand in stark contrast to Bush's assessment of Iraq on the campaign trail, where he expresses optimism that the nation can eventually become a democracy and mocks his Democratic opponent, Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, for waffling on the war.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/09/18/MNGN78R6OV1.DTL
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 09:47 AM
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1. yep the democarts are fiighitng back
and most importantly the print media is starting to carry it, now if we could get the cables to do such....

Don't hold my breath, I know
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 09:47 AM
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2. These comments need to be spread far and wide
but will any of the national media outlets pick it up?
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 09:49 AM
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3. This isn't really going out on a limb anymore, is it? Bush simply
hides his own intelligence on how bad it is going. We are currently three months behind on where the turd of Bush's iraq policy is circling located on the flush of events
2004 (C) Inland Communications
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 09:50 AM
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4. I seen that yesterday
she was totally upset and concerned...It looked like she was visibly shaken after seeing the troops......Too bad the house floor was almost empty when she spoke....
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 09:54 AM
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5. Then why did you vote yes on housr resolution 757?
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21winner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 12:31 PM
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9. Because housr(sic) resolutions are are BS.
I always have to chuckle when political neophytes get righteous for nothing.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 10:02 AM
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6. IT'S ABOUT F***ING TIME
nt
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:53 AM
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7. If Hagel and Lugar can blister Bush
Edited on Sat Sep-18-04 11:54 AM by JoFerret
....then the least we can hope for is Pelosi and Biden. Step it up people.
Quagmire, miserable failure, catastrophe.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 12:19 PM
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8. If it can be proven that why the Iraqis have been willing to die
in order to get us out... perhaps the privatization of their state run businesses and infrastructure, the waste they are witnessing at the hands of Hallibacon, the lack of real democracy since majority rule or even majority representation doesn't seem to apply there...

the prison abuse (torture)... the lack of sewage and electricity, if these things can be cited as the real reasons for the insurgency, (call it terrorism if you like) then someone can be blamed for it. Someone can take responsibility for it. Someone who should have the buck stopping at his desk.

Had we gone in... put the people to work, engaged the military with acceptance and jobs rather than disband them jobless and hopeless.... hired their engineers, given contracts to other countries such as France, Germany, Russia and the like... things would be a bit different no doubt.

Therefore, I see the greed and selfishness that was displayed by this administration as they gave virtually all the contracts to a select group of well connected companies as being part of the problem.

The Iraqis had been quoted as saying something the the effect after seeing what shrub was really up to.... "we will be as foreigners in our own land" or some such thing... and that will not stand. It cannot stand. It wouldn't stand here... why should it stand anywhere else?
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21winner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 12:37 PM
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10. Oh stop the Self Righteous nonsense.
It was a really bad idea. It bore poison fruit.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 12:48 PM
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12. Making sure Iraq didn't posess WMD was not a bad idea....
Taking down a despot was not a bad idea.

Ending human suffering at the hands of a terrible government was not a bad idea.

Hijacking their economy, their infrastructure, allowing for double digit unemployment, and failing to realize that Iraq is really three countries that will be hard pressed to act as one (democratically) is a bad idea.

W --------> wrong, period.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 12:39 PM
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11. So, why don't you call for an immediate US troop withdrawal from Iraq?
Hello, Pelosi???? Where are you?????

Attacking Bush for Iraq while failing to call for a US pull out is nothing but empty rhetoric!
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