CBS Memo Source talked to Kerry Campaigner... ?

What the heck is this? The rePukes are going to have a field day with this:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-09-20-cbs-documents_x.htm

"WASHINGTON — CBS arranged for a confidential source to talk with Joe Lockhart, a top aide to John Kerry, after the source provided the network with the now-disputed documents about President Bush's service in the Texas National Guard.

"Lockhart, the former press secretary to President Clinton, said a producer talked to him about the 60 Minutes program a few days before it aired on Sept. 8. She gave Lockhart a telephone number and asked him to call Bill Burkett, a former Texas National Guard officer who gave CBS the documents. Lockhart couldn't recall the producer's name. But CBS said Monday night that it would examine the role of producer Mary Mapes in passing the name to Lockhart.

"Burkett told USA TODAY that he had agreed to turn over the documents to CBS if the network would arrange a conversation with the Kerry campaign.

"The network's effort to place Burkett in contact with a top Democratic official raises ethical questions about CBS' handling of material potentially damaging to the Republican president in the midst of an election. This "poses a real danger to the potential credibility ... of a news organization," said Aly Colón, a news ethicist at The Poynter Institute for Media Studies."

more at the link above, but I didn't want to post more than four (4) paragraphs.

forget about it

the old news was that he tried giving this info to Max Cleland.. If they set up some quid pro quo deal with Burkett, it makes CBS look awful, though it provides clear evidence Burkett wasn't able to coordinate this with Kerry beforehand if that was his stipulation. Except for those like killer Scarborough who tried smearing Lockhart tonight, it's good news for the campaign, bad news for CBS.

the real issues that will affect voters won't be some bull shit that happened 35 years ago

Americans are dying in Iraq due to lies, incompentence, and reckless disregard

The fate of Roe V Wade will depend who becomes president

job offshoring

healthcare

environment

The pugs would love to keep talking about this instead of the issues

up to this very date. One wonders if the Vietnam War is still raging! This Presidential campaign has been all about history. Who did what and when during a war that half of the voters only know about through movies such as Rambo II, Platoon, and Apocalypse Now.

I tremble to think of the finger pointing that will follow the Campaign 2004 post-mortem.

According to the article Lockhart did call him. The rePukes certainly won't "forget about it".

The Lockhart contact came AFTER the documents were turned over. And Burkett needed CBS to make the contact.

Piffle.

... how this is going to be spun by the RW and their nancy-boys in the media.

it was an effort by the Kerry camp to smear Shrub.

... I posted it.

I should have been clearer... I was wondering how far the spin will go, and for how long. I know, somewhat, how it will be spun, but not to what extent.

main advisors?

Phase II of Karl Rove's evil plan to tie this to the Kerry campaign.

was 'deeply concerned' that the Kerry campaigne was contacted..........yeah - right

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when we exposed Bu$h's top campaign lawyer and Vet affair officer. No sorry, CBS is not a 527 like FOX News is to Bush.

we live in a country where so many people approve of someone like Bush being President. With that many people so stupid and so evil it really doesn't matter who is in the WH. You simply can't lead a nation of morons and bigots into anything good.

"With that many people so stupid and so evil it really doesn't matter who is in the WH."

wtf? Are you saying that John Kerry won't/can't make a difference, or that he doesn't have a chance of winning? If either, why are you here? To disrupt this forum? To dissuade or discourage the people who want to see this country change and go in a different direction?

Of course this matters, to the corporate-whore RW media who only care about ratings and advertisement revenue. They'll be all over this like white on rice (no offense intended to you folks who prefer brown rice). Those whoring douche-bags will spend so much time on this, they'll be ignoring the real issues and John Kerry's message. Mark my words.

I'm telling you, Dan Rather is on KKKarl Rove's payroll. He's on his knees in front of that fat, slimy, sleazeball like a WH intern.

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to republican traitors like the "Douchebag of Liberty!"

Yeah, Dan Rather is a real enemy of ours.

He's on his knees in front of that fat, slimy, sleazeball like a WH intern.

Get a little better at projecting your insults if you plan to be around much longer. :eyes:

"Yeah, Dan Rather is a real enemy of ours."

Then why did he do such a crappy job, by wanting to help Kerry?

"Get a little better at projecting your insults if you plan to be around much longer."
Sorry, how should I have worded that? ;-)

Perhaps you don't realize how moronic and bigoted you sound.

concerned about the person who started this thread.

He always posts things that cast doubt on Democrats, and argues disagreeably with anyone who takes issue with him.

I don't see enough to alert on, but I think someone may have taken a left turn when they meant to take a right.

You've noticed that too, eh?

I can see a church by daylight."

(Beatrice/Much Ado...)

"He always posts things that cast doubt on Democrats"

Not always, but that is probably what stands out to you. Of the few threads that I've started (only 3 or 4) have been as a "heads-up" warning. I want people to be informed, and not blindsided, if I see a rePukian dirty trick coming.

If I had posted a link where it was admitted that Fox News put the WH in contact with the Swifties, we'd be howling for blood. Well, that's what the rePukes are about to do with this.

Does it affect me? nope.

However, since you don't seem to care for the articles I post, the next time I'll ask myself, "What would MurielM post?" :-)

However, I have linked in several of the draft threads how it's not the rePukes calling for the reinstatement of the draft, but Democrats. That's just a touchy issue with me. I understand why they did it, but it does look a bit hypocritcal. Kerry has nothing to do with it, but the rePukes will still point to it if the draft becomes an issue during this campaign.

And, I don't trust ANY of the talking heads.

"and argues disagreeably with anyone who takes issue with him."

Generally, I try converse amiable, even with those with whom I disagree. However, I am only human, so If someone touches a nerve, I can be nastier or hotter than I normally try to be.

If you look at the majority of my posts (and not the ones discussing Rather), you should see that I am a fairly amiable guy.

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But they would rip him apart so therefore it is our job to speak to the Jesus saves (at walmart) conciousness that is spreading like a real cancer in the hearts and minds.

They'll try to make this crap stick and Kerry just has to ready for to counter it. I have faith that he's got good people around him who will come up with something great.

How do you prepare for Rove? The man is an evil genius. He could spin the resurrection to suit his purposes.

What I don't understand is the Swift Boats for Truth was proven to be lies. Yet, these people went on show after show including radio. Republicans have smeared Kerry with this very badly. I want to know WHY THE HELL this is Kerry's fault when this is actually true and the Swift Boat people are false yet it isn't Bush's fault?

I'm sorry but this double standard is really pissing me off. Bushs people got away with some much B.S. that it isn't even fair. Then when Kerry was going to take them to court over it they said oh they should have the freedom to speak out. Bush's own people wrote a letter saying,"We think they should have the freedom to speak out."

Kerry didn't have anything to do with this and the first time that something pops up like this isn't it funny how nobody got fired or nobody were told to resign for telling lies about Kerry. They set here attacked Kerry's own War record by saying discrediting his medals. Not to mention the FREAKEN bandage purple hearts. Where was the inqury when we democratics were screwing to the media in order for them to publish the truth and stop making up lies?

I think it's time to stop letting them push us around. If they want to make a case out of these then we take them to court for the Swift Boats for Truth. CONGRESS WE DEMEND A INQUIRY FOR THAT! NO MORE DOUBLE STANDARDS!

the little bit I saw on Scarborough convinced me that the media will spend at least the next three to four weeks, if not longer, trying to prove that the Kerry campaign is tied to ILLEGAL, as in federal offense) forging of government documents. Forget about the outing of CIA operative. You'll probably never hear about the Plame case again.

I knew Rove and his fellow trolls were diabolical, but I never knew just how good they were until today. I tried catching bits and pieces of several news shows on most of the cable channels and every show talked about how this is going to, or already has, sunk Dan Rather's career and the credibility of CBS news. And you can see everyone's eyes sparkling with joy!! What a great story! "Oh, it's a dark day for journalism, but god I'm having an orgasm."

I will force myself NOT to watch any news. Hopefully, I'll make it another 42 days. I'll keep up with DU and catch some internet stuff, but I'll have a friggin heart attack if they keep on Memogate non-stop for days and days and days. I once had about an ounce of respect for Howard Fineman. Don't ask me why. After seeing him wet his pants with glee over the possible downfall of a fellow newsperson, I'm sick to death of the whole damn bunch of talking heads. I only watched Scarborough because I felt bad about his hometown being wiped out by Ivan and he was going to show pictures about going home to the devastation. Big mistake. The lies! My god, the lies. They kept saying..this goes directly to Kerry's campaign, they (Kerry's camp) tried to bring down a sitting president by illegal means, they (Kerry's camp) jeopardized the whole election, blah, blah, this could have destroyed *. IF ONLY.

And I still think Kerry will get at least a million more popular votes AND more electoral votes than *. In any other universe that would mean victory.

Pissed off,
Skarbrowe aka R. Scarborough ( people used to say to me, "I love your last name." Now I cringe when I have to say it out loud.

Kerry should have immediately counter - attacked with a TV ad that called the Swift Boat Vets liars. No pussy - footing or delicate language, he should have said "they're lying about my service in Viet Nam." Don't engage them in a debate about the details of actions 35 years ago, just call them liars. Let the Swifties sue for libel; the case wouldn't go to trial until after 11/2 and then it wouldn't matter. I think the plain language delivered with some genuine outrage would have played well with swing voters.

when cbs aired the memo show. I figured that this would tie the dink to his record and would point to his lack of integrity and vile habit of lying about everything. What it really did was force me to turn off anything other than cbs news at 5:30 and ignore all the agog news spinners. No point in even listening to them. Worthless garbage without even a hint of investigative effort or talent among 'em. Oh, well, saved my blood pressure monitor batteries.

We must also keep in mind the BCCI scandals and the fact that the thugs, many of whom are still very active, were in it up to their asses. That crew is pissed at Kerry for his leading the fight against that mafia in the eighties, and they will be fighting hard to bring him down when he's elected. We must lead the fight to change many laws and to prosecute and bring to justice the current crooks, not just let bygones be bygones as has happened so often in the past.

Marian Carr Knox has publicly verified that the content of said memo is correct. Only the uninformed are clueless but it won't be long before they get sick of Bush's lying piehole. Bush is an asshole and nothing can change that... we already know he's a cheerleading pansy chickenhawk. The dumb weenies that support Bush and work for him should go enlist in the military tomorrow and prove they are not girlymen pansies. No excuses for prior service, age, school or marital status! If you vote for Bush, you must enlist!

This so funny because Bush&Co are pushing this "memogate" crap but it keeps Bush's guard service - or lack there of - IN THE NEWS EVERY DAY! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Don't fret theKnave! Bush's handlers are digging his grave for him at this very moment. Republicans are very dumb and it has been proven that they are scared little cowards. No need to worry about this theKnave, we shall overcome! ;)

That's what Tony Coehlo said on the Tweety show last night. Coehlo said that if anyone in the Kerry campaign was involved in any aspect of the Rather-Burkett fiasco, that they should all be fired at once.

Someone else in the media already pointed out the lawyerly defense by McCauliffe that the DNC had nothing to do with the manufacture of the CBS memos, leaving a big question open as to their role in the distribution of the memos.

It is paramount to put this thing behind and get back to the business of putting our message out in the media. We cannot do that while there is a trickle of stories about the CBS memos.

One thing for certain is that we are going to get several more days of mass distractions.

Wanted to pass on his advise to Kerry so he talks to Cleland and Dean and finally CBS gives his number to Lockhart as the price for getting the rest of the documents.

This is weird.

someone in desperate need of attention.

and their paid mouthpieces in the media taking time away from Kerry's message and the real issues. That's the problem.

I was worried it would be missing from DU!

Goebbels is having a field day!

it's that the Kerry camp kept their hands off. Any attempts by the Bush camp to spin this as a DNC plot will come off as desparate.

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rocknation

Of something, I guess. What BS! The ol' debate tape to Gore campaign story.

I'm not saying that Lockhart did anything wrong, But that the media and RW are gonna keep this in the newscycle longer than it should be (which it shouldn't have been at all), taking time away from from Kerry's message and the issues.

Am I the only one who thinks that the media is trying to wreck Kerry's campaign?

Your headline doesn't match the article.

Earlier in the day, I was going to let it go, as I realize many want to talk about this subject. However, this thread is so full of personal attacks and rule breaking, that it is useless to continue.