'Beat me once a week' says Iranian woman

London Evening Standard
22 September 2004

An Iranian woman, beaten every day by her husband, asked a court to tell him only to beat her once a week.

Maryam, the middle-age woman, said she did not want to divorce her husband because she loved him.

"Just tell him to beat me once a week ... Beating is part of his nature and he cannot stop it," Maryam told the court.

The Tehran court found the man guilty and banned him from beating the wife, the paper said. "If I do not beat her, she will not be scared enough to obey me," the husband said.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/13336034?source=Reuters

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- and she should get a divorce and be compensated for her suffering.

Sounds a lot like what Bush is doing to us. Randi Rhodes has compared Bush to the abusive husband who warns his wife that she'll end up with someone who'll treat her worse if she leaves him.

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rocknation

not much changed in 2004..........

...Yes, the Rule of Thumb states that you can't beat beat your wife or children with a stick any thicker than your thumb.

Keep in mind, these types of things are the "Good Old Days" Dumbya and company want to revive...

The phrase 'rule of thumb' does not originate with English Common Law as is often claimed. It originated with woodworkers, who knew their trade so well that they rarely bothered to use a ruler, instead making measurements with their thumbs.

She needs psychiatric help.

Seeking psychiatric help for being a Sharia doormat is tantamount to apostacy

You should be ashamed of yourself for speaking such ridiculous lies.

The Islamic Republic's court obviously thinks differently from you, for the man was found at fault.

The sharia has little do with this except in the proper ruling that was made by the court. The man is clearly an asshole, and the woman a fool. I see pairs like that on the show COPS all the time:--a man is beating his wife, the cops show up after being called by the neighbors, the woman takes his side and he passes out in a beer-stained wifebeater. Idiots abound.

Check it for yourself.

That's what Muslim women are fighting against today. Relgious tolerance of marital abuse.

Another thing that Muslims everywhere are fighting against today is the insane ramblings like this.

The only insane ramblings are from those who condone religion as a means of oppressing women.

Sharia Law treats women like herd animals in the desert and gives men carte blanche to exonerate their abuse in the name of God.

The Bible is full of sexist crap, too.

Doesn't it say to beat your wife if she mentions she's menstruating? Or is that you're supposed to kill your wife?

Wait a minute. I think the Bible says your supposed to beat your wife if she mentions it in private, kill her if she mentions it in public.

I'll have to check on that.

It does say that a woman is unclean while she's menstruating, and that she cannot appear before the altar. If she does, she's supposed to be stoned. With rocks. Not that she's supposed to toke up. You know what I mean.

..and overzealous fundamentalist christian idiots. The new testament laws, after Christ was crucified, is now what we as Christians follow.
Duckie

Good God. Muhammad was actually a feminist of his time and allotted for a woman to have rights. That little piece of information is just left out most of the time by these fundamentalist idiots who apparently decided to ignore the part where Muhammad said women are to be treasured, or something like that. It happens here in christianity too. NO WHERE in the bible does it say that men can beat their wives into submission, but it doesn't stop them from saying it.
Duckie

That he REALLY did not mean these things, right?

(Koran 4:15) If two men among you commit indecency (sodomy) punish them both. If they repent and mend their ways, let them be. Allah is forgiving and merciful.

(Koran 4:16) If any one of your women is guilty of lewdness ...confine them until death claims them.

(Koran 4:34) ...As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them, refuse to share their beds and BEAT THEM...

(Al Hadis, Vol. 2, p. 686) Ibn Masud reported, "We were fighting with the Messenger of Allah, and our wives were not with us. We asked the Messenger of Allah, 'Should we castrate ourselves?' The Holy Prophet forbade us from that, and then he allowed us Muta (temporary) marriage. So, we all married wives for a fixed time (usually three days) for the dowry of a piece of cloth."

(Al Hadis, Vol 2, p. 651) Abu Hurairah reported that the Messenger of Allah said, "No woman shall give a woman in marriage, nor shall a woman give herself in marriage. Verily, the fornicatress is she that marries by herself."

(Al-Hadis, Vol. 3, p. 137) Abu Sayeed al-Khodri reported that Mohammed was talking to a group of women when he said, "... I see the majority of you will go to Hell." The women asked why, to which Mohammed responded, "You often curse and are ungrateful to your companions." He then told them they had a basic defect in their nature, to which they responded, "How?" Mohammed answered, "Is not the attestation (knowledge and witness) of a women only worth half of a man's? And that is on account of her short intelligence."

(And I was also quoting a text book). Christianity says the same thing about that stuff, except Christ never tells anyone to beat their women. They told women not to speak or witness for centuries in christianity. IT's changed now because the world has changed. Apparently, I was wrong about the beating thing. But at least they don't say beat your wives because they need to be subservient. At least he says if she's disloyal or does something stupid. :eyes: /sarcasm off.
Duckie

phedophile. In his day, and now. Sorry, he gets no slack from me.

Nothing wrong with honest debate!

Sucks. Sucks for women, sucks for girls, and it sucks for anyone who isn't because they have the most violent fundamentalists in the world.
Duckie

“in Kazakhstan we say, ‘God, man, horse, dog, then woman, then rat.’

The means is FEAR.... which is what the PUBs use on us Americans

same shit, different country.

Spook 101: Want to invade a country or overturn its government? Plant stories in the press about how sexist their societies are.

Anglo-Americans constantly compared the supposedly degraded status of Indian women to that of white women, just as the British voiced their concerns about the practice of suttee when they decided to impose their brand of compassionate colonialism on India.

I was responding to a post about the plight of women being used to justify colonial intervention, not the OP?

out of her... then they had sex like squalling weasels...hor hours and hours.

I had a girl fiend in Portland that was like that... she would beg me to slap her around, do her and choke her..she was a 'gasper'.

it was just toooooo weird.. yea, like i want to end up in jail. She was... really Hot. such screamer the neighbors would throw shoes out their windows against the house. I was young.. but not that dumb. she was so co-dependant and clingy that i moved to another state and hid way out in the woods for years.

whatever political winds (or farts) are blowing.

The plight of women (I gave a presentation about the Taliban a year before 9/11, and nobody had ever heard of them, nor did they really give a damn)? Or the use of women's "barbaric treatment" to justify colonial intervention?

and replace their government with one we like MUCH better.

You know, like in afghanistan, where the now-in-power Northern Alliance holds their beheadings OUTSIDE the soccer stadiums; being a new, progressive government, and all.

And like in iraq where their new leader, Allawi kindly executes people with a bullet to the head instead of the groin.

It's that compassionate conservatism.

C-I-A buys advertising space in the newsmedia and doesn't identify it as such.)

While spousal abuse happens to millions of women on a daily basis around the entire world and is considered socially acceptable in many countries that we call allies, I am curious as to how many more articles we are going to see about the barbarians and untermensch that comprise the country of Iran.

A Tenn. fundie group was banned from Tenn. They went to Vt. in Vt. the Dept of social services stated the children didn't want to go home, as they were beaten daily,beating the "the fear of the lord into them". Vt banned them also, I don't know where they went then. There was records of wives beaten also to keep them in line, obeying their husbands.Sick people.Remember spare the rod and spoil the child.If you love jesus line up for your medicine.

They want to invade Iran next year.

DONT FALL FOR IT.

They sure could do a better job of making stuff up.

I mean, how else can you explain someone so evil? :)

We had a gentleman who beat his wife on a regular basis. We responded to that address at least once a month. His wife happen to be a girl i dated in hi-school. The last call i got to that address, my partner and i took said gentleman, out in the county and convinced him it was in his best interest not to ever touch her again. They are still married and he's never touched her again.
I know what we did was wrong.
Seems we solved a problem the courts couldn't.

my brother is a retired LEO and while he didn't spend much time doing precinct work, he always says that domestic calls were the worst to handle.

Very true, especially when you add alcohol.
I am also retired. Sheriffs Department.
Y'all are the first one to ever hear that story. Once again, I'm not proud of it, but it did get the results that were needed.

I volunteered as a victim advocate for several years and I worked with numerous women who were just like that one: their husband beat them & they protected him because they "loved" him. It's definitely sick, but it's certainly not a "Muslim thing." :eyes:

...makes beating your wife/husband/SO illegal and if they're called and either partner looks like they've been beaten or if they're still fighting, one or both can be charged, without the other pressing charges. Great stuff.
Duckie

I understand how difficult it must be for women in that kind of culture, and thank God there was some type of recourse for her.

If it were happening to me, here in this country however, all I can say is what my Mom told both my sister and myself:
"Don't forget, he's got to sleep sometime"


-chef-

Let's help them out by attacking them and blowing up all their houses. The ones who resist we can just kill because they're terrorists.

"Women who have been pressing for expanded rights were infuriated when in August a 16-year-old girl was hanged for adultery in the northern city of Neka, while the man with whom she was accused of having a sexual relationship received 100 lashes. Amnesty International said the young woman was not thought to be mentally competent."

See:
Iran tries to reverse gains made by women
Nazila Fathi NYT Thursday, September 23, 2004

TEHRAN The hard-liners who won Iran's parliamentary elections in February have focused on women's rights in their efforts to reverse some of the liberalization carried out under the moderate president, Mohammad Khatami.
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After the legislative session began in June, the 290-member Parliament, including all 12 of the women, abruptly rejected proposals to expand the inheritance right of Iranian women and to adopt the United Nations convention that bans discrimination against women. They also backed away from previous efforts to make "gender equality" a goal of the country's next four-year development plan.
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Instead, the new Parliament has called for placing more restrictions on women's attire and social freedoms.
More:
http://iht.com/articles/540140.html


In other reports about the 16 year old girl it was alleged that the judge had her hanged "because she had a sharp tongue" and admonished the court for dismissing her evidence that it was not adultery but rape. The UK's Sunday Times rant this story in August. Sorry can't find the link - it was on my bookmarks that are now wiped.........