Televangelist Paul Crouch Attempts to Keep Accuser Quiet (Gay Sex)

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lonnie12sep12,1,2281357,print.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Televangelist Paul Crouch, founder of the world's largest Christian broadcasting network, has waged a fierce legal battle to prevent a former employee from publicizing allegations that he and Crouch had a sexual encounter eight years ago.

Crouch, 70, is the president of Trinity Broadcasting Network, based in Orange County, whose Christian programming reaches millions of viewers around the world via satellite, cable and broadcast stations.

The source of the allegations against him is Enoch Lonnie Ford, who met Crouch at a TBN-affiliated drug treatment center in 1991 and later went to work for the ministry.

After Ford threatened to sue TBN in 1998, claiming that he had been unjustly fired, Crouch reached a $425,000 settlement with him. In return, Ford agreed, among other things, not to discuss his claim about a sexual encounter with the TV preacher.

...and the big question is: Will Kitty Kelley out Bush for the alleged affair with Victor Ashe?

Not because they're gay, but because they're hypocritical monsters.

eerie!

all plastic and hairspray and inflated body parts. And you are right - there seems to be a type for both sexes that reeks of discomfort with being human.

looks very parallel to tammy faye

on some TV show when I was surfing. Pretty funny...

I wouldn't want anyone to be confused ...

Bake

:wow:

I mean, come on. Take off that wig and you have the average long-distance trucker.

kind of hair.

. . . just in time for Halloween!

70s. Him: yeah he is a sister closet case - you can look at him and tell.

I was in a furniture store and could hear a woman yelling @ the salesperson. I looked @ my daughter and she said 'OMG its (whatever her name is)' 'who's that?' I asked. 'U know that woman on TBN' About then she comes storming out from around a huge armoire, still yelling over her shoulder, goes out the door and N2 the limo waiting @ the curb and she looked just like that picture. Spooky & scary.

I've seen lots of pictures where it's even scarier hair than that -- puffed out into a space helmet and even more pink. I don't see how she can walk around without her head falling off. Maybe all that praying for plastic surgery and more mascara keeps your neck strong, though, I don't know...

Yes.

I met her and her daughter-in-law fifteen years ago at a conference in New Orleans.

She also was wearing the biggest diamond ring I've ever seen. Oscar jewelry and Kobe Bryant's wife has nothing on her. The stone was emerald cut and went from knuckle to knuckle. After I commented on the ring, Jan and the DIL showed up the next day with their rings turned around so that just the band showed...

Julie

spending their millions that they bilk old ladies who have to eat Skippy out of...they look like bigger pigs in person...I'm never short of words when I see them ..as loud as I can be.

VERY strange people. They used to frequent a restaurant in Newport Beach that my ex worked at - they would sit there for hours and do nothing but drink, drink, drink.

the manager at my grocery store says they come in all the time and buy tons of the most expensive wines.


crouch...ouch!

How do they respond?

Looks like a guy in drag...

so she could run around town being a total bitch (or bastard if that terms is more appropriate for the gender) without being discovered. I thought someone was doing a voice-over for her on TBN.

I truly hate and detest these two. They fleeced over a quarter million dollars from my grandmother. Everytime I see these liars on TV, I know what fakes they are. Yet, they brainwashed Grandma. I hope these assholes go down in flames!

Are you sure his name isn't Crotch (sorry about that)?

about six months ago. He had the Repug appear before his congregation to say a few words.

You may have scanned channels and noticed Paul's wife. She'd be the one with the pink cotton candy hair and the Tammy Faye-type makeup.

with a wife whose hair is bigger than a breadbox.

Did you know she has a colony of hamsters living in her hair?

:evilgrin:

I wonder if they are tax exempt?

off the 405 is better fortified than most state prisons.

Pointing their fingers in righteous indignation, lecturing us all on the various evils that God finds offensive. Psychological projection in its purest form.

Remember that the next time some wingnut spouts off how "God hates fags," and the like. They might as well be speaking into a mirror.

His beautiful wife Jan (she looks like an aging drag queen), the poor thing, what will she do now???? Baaaaaaaahhhhhh!

why should we fault ol Helmet Head Paul for having such a (deep) love for his fellow man?

go read a book by a gay man Micheal Signorile. I would hate hearing about "outing" once I read excerpts from Signorile's book I changed my mind. Outing may be painful for the individual being outed for a time- but it has never hurt the larger gay community- it has helped them. That is why I hope this Victor Ashe thing with Bush can be proves to be true.

He's one of the more homophobic TBN preachers.

TBN is so bizarre - sometimes, late at night, I watch and watch... it's fascinating. The things people will fall for. So many money scams... "spread your seed money, reap the big rewards."

Named his church in Columbus "World Harvest Church" and all that.

Word going around the tape room was that Ol' Doc was grooming Rod for succession, since Frank, Steve and Pete were incompetent buffoons. Fo some reason, Steve and Pete got control of LeSEA, and it's been going downhill. All my old buddies but one have either been shitcanned or have jumped ship.

Rod got in a fist-fight many years ago with the contractor he tried to stiff on the bill for painting his dad's new 4.5 Megabuck house he had built for him....

Scott Thompson:




Rod Parsley:



I've never seen them in the same room together.

And that's coming from someone who used to watch PTL for sick kicks even before Jim and Tammy got busted.

TBN doesn't air in my town so I never got a load of Jan Crouch till I was on a trip to L.A. and saw her on TV. She was in some mission orphanage or hospital handing out Barbie dolls to the little brown children. And you could tell what a rush she was getting from it as these tiny, destitute children turned their wide-eyed gazes from the dolls to her and back again. She smiled a big glossy smirk at the camera as if to say "Look! They think it's me!" It was so, so sick in so many ways. I'm not at all surprised the Crouches' bizarre veneers are hiding double lives.

Liposuction for Christ, indeed!

BTW, I didn't know Sandy Patty, who needs liposuction herself, had dumped her hubby. Thanks for that info!

Speaking of the article in your link, who the Hell is that guy with the Panamanian accent that wears white suits all the time that appears on TBN all the time?

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I think TBN is the honey that attracts all of the mentally disturbed religionists in the country.

Apparently Hinn is so over the top that even many fundies have problems with him.

Thanks for refreshing my memory!

:)

I've been to that site before when I was reading up on Benny (and Robert Tilton) and was glad to see them denounce him. I'm no fan of fundamentalism, even in its most benign forms, but it's good to know that some fundies can tell a scam artist when they see one. I loved the reference to the "Babylonian" decor in the piece about Crouch. Hee hee!

Someone liposucked her brains out.

and Mr. Crotch offered to make China a theocracy (Beijing declined)

BTW, the location of their headquarters is just across the freeway and in view of their real place of worship, South Coast Plaza

It's much more entertaining than Comedy Central.

IMSA

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Jim Bakker continued to receive donations from his sheep the whole time he was in prison. True believers aren't interested in what particular individuals do; they're following the movement--the distraction and self-justification--rather than what kind of life the leader lives. In fact, such scandals may even serve to strengthen the followers' resolve. After all, if such a great man of God can be tempted like this, then their own failings aren't so significant anymore. It'll just make them more determined sinners.

But the Crouch broadcasting...service...or whatever they are have a channel. I know one year they were showing their homegrown stage musical about the crucifixion. Everybody on the stage had lame' on...Judas was a dancer with a troop of slinky solid-goldesque flygirls.

While they were changing scenery Mrs. Crouch would be spotlighted in a side balcony box and would read little monologues from a paper at a microphone. I swore to the deity that this had to be a joke. One of Jan's monlogues was about her and her friend Charlotte and their pet chicken named "Chicken" who was so devoted to them that it followed them across the road one day when Jan forgot to lock the fence behind her.

Chicken got hit by a car, and Jan and Charlotte prayed over it and "laid hands" on it as they'd seen evangelists do. (Jan weeping copious mascara tears over her notes mind you). They'd also read about annointing people with oil, so they got the bottle of crisco and rubbed it all over Chicken. At this point I swear she's going to break out of it and make a joke about Chicken crossing the road or how she learned that chickens are not pets. But Chicken came back to life.

And they then proceeded to crucify Jesus in their lame' community theatre outfits to rock music. The actor playing Jesus seemed over it as he spent nearly half an hour hanging on the cross with long ribbons of drool hanging down to the stage.

I admit, I used to be totally addicted to TBN. There are one or two preachers I like to watch. But the rest of it, especially Praise the Lord, is so over-the-top, it's hilarious!

He is an aging little queen, and his wife are many a channel flipping session of hilarity for me. You scan by, but can't not watch it. It dares you to watch. It has all the makings of tawdry cheap and delish drama. She usually appears with her enormous store- bought chest, inflated lips and a hairdo that looks like a nountain from the candyland game. Her son, and his compliant and ever silent wife are on air also.

There used to be a twin brother gang-save team that could only be described as Robert Redfords on steroids. The one brother plays Christ in the gargantuan, and staggeringly crass, over the top productions (pre Christ Melvin, BCM). Christ it seems could bench press 300 easy. When they were on, you could see Paul just loving it.

I have 2 daughters, and everytime Ms. Crouch comes on I say "She is SO beautiful" "Why can't you fix yourselves up like that" etc. etc.
My girls just eat it up...

TBN used to have a bunch of musclemen on called the Power Team who gave "testimonies" while they performed lifting routines.

Then, the head of the Power Team left his wife for another man...

Christian Right huum
Georgie loves them huuum

Their leaders pretending to be something they are not. Huuum

Let's pull off all the covers and see where that Victor/Victoria Ashe is!

I am sick of the LIES!

They are bashing gays and living in a glass house. A Crystal Cathedral if you will.

Where are the stones in this picture???

NOT closeted and confused.

http://www.geocities.com/Bob_Hunter/paulcrouch.html

his ugly mug.

He makes Jim Baker look like a Green Bay Packer.

I must tune in, as it seems I've been missing the entertainment!

Tune in...to TBN
Turn OFF...your critical thinking skills
Drop...us a fat envelope containing your life's $aving$!

Seriously, I can't stand the way these televangelists prey on the guileless, weak, and susceptible (oftentimes older) people in their audience who sincerely belive in them and their 'message', which oftentimes consists of "send me your money", money the olderr folks can't truly afford to give.

Totally fucking insane the lot of them.

They have everything from bible codes to shows about the end of the world fast approaching. They also have Haul Lidseys (sp?) "briefing" all the time which is essentially FOX news times one thousand.

They have preachers on that have called for death to GLBT people.

Oh and guess what? They were special guests in IRAQ. Paul told a story of how he received a special US military escort for his visit to convert Iraqis. He proudly told how he disobeyed a US soldier by getting out of the armored vehicle when he was told NOT to do so (thus risking the lives of those soldiers and all around) so he could look at a bloody satellite dish.

He also has claimed to have been invited to the white house. Interesting company bush keeps.

Many seem to be little different from the Islamic Fundies who preach hate against America.


They have similar views on oppression of women, gays, and other similar issues.

How do they know? The proposed plans for a building in the EU "looks like" their interpretation of some evil tower in the bible. Yup, they had an entire show dedicated to this evidence proving the EU is under the control of the anti-christ - a building they think looks like an evil one from the bible.

This site has some quotes from them: http://www.bereanfaith.com/heresy.php?action=aquote&id=2

"if you have been healed or saved or blessed through TBN and have not contributed to (the) station, you are robbing God and will lose your reward in heaven."

"God, we proclaim death to anything or anyone that will lift a hand against this network and this ministry that belongs to You, God. It is Your work, it is Your idea, it is Your property, it is Your airwaves, it is Your world, and we proclaim death to anything that would stand in the way of God's great voice of proclamation to the whole world. In the Name of Jesus, and all the people said Amen!"

"There's a spiritual application here...I want to say to all you Scribes, Pharisees, heresy hunters, all of you that are going around pickin' little bits of doctrinal error out of everybody's eyes and dividin' the Body of Christ...get out of God's way, stop blockin' God's bridges (of unity), or God's goin' to shoot you if I don't...

...let Him sort out all this doctrinal doodoo!...I refuse to argue any longer with any of you out there! Don't even call me if you want to argue...Get out of my life! I don't want to talk to you...I don't want to see your ugly face!"

Death threat:

"....I want you all to listen carefully. This is a word - a prophetic word that came to me on September the 25th. Now we didn't have a clue that God was gonna do what He has done this week. We didn't know. Now a few of you, God had tipped off. Who was it? I think you said it, Schaumbauch, when you came in, and somebody else said to me - it was you, James Payne - said it was going to be the greatest week that Trinity has ever had. And I said, "I receive it. I accept it." But I hadn't really had that same quickening in my spirit. I knew it was gonna be good, but didn't know it was gonna be this good.

Well, this is from sweet little Judy Alsop. She's one of our own sweet ladies that works here on the internet. She's the one that takes many of your e-mails and things that come in off the internet and sends it to the right place. And this is the word of the Lord that came to her, and I want you to listen carefully. This is, this is awesome!

Now, remember, this is 9/25, so that's 9, 10, 11, it's not quite two months old, okay? And she sent it to me.


Paul. The ministry of TBN is about to explode. The platform I've given you to reach your...


Well, go ahead. Let's give the Lord a - That much has already happened, hasn't it? That explosion has just occurred.


The platform I've given you to reach the world with the gospel of Jesus Christ is going to expand beyond your wildest imaginations. Kings and princes will plead for your help because of the power and the magnitude of this tool of Christian television I've placed within all of your hands. You must be ready and prayed up so that you will know how to respond to each request from these many heads of state.


She didn't know that I was on my way to Jordan to meet King Hussein when this was written. Couldn't have known it. It wasn't known yet.


It is time, once and for all, to take your sword in hand, the mighty sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God. Speak it out. Proclaim defeat to the enemies of God.


Stand up, everybody. In the Name of Jesus, we proclaim defeat to the enemies of God. We speak it forth by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony, and the word of our confession. The enemies of God are defeated in the Name and by the blood of Jesus Christ. They are under our feet by the victory of Jesus Christ when He said, "Behold, I am He Who was dead, but am alive forevermore, and have the keys of death and of hell." We receive it in Jesus' Name.

Well, we just did this:


Call for a public assembly. Gather men and women of God publicly on the air. Pray, praise and worship. Then openly proclaim the victory of God over the present challenges to the TBN station licenses.


Lord, God, in the Name of Jesus, we proclaim victory over these challenges to the licenses of the TV stations that belong to You, Lord. We proclaim deliverance and victory and release. God, this is Your year of Jubilee and Your year of release and debt cancellation, and we decree it, we proclaim it, we speak it by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony, in Jesus' precious Name.


Take authority over the principalities and powers that dare to threaten this ministry. I have raised it up from infancy for My own purposes, saith the Lord. Just as I commanded Ezekiel to prophesy life to dry bones, and they took on life, so I am commanding you to prophesy death to the threats, challenges, and bondages the enemy has placed on TBN. Command them to cease and desist, and you will see this dilemma die and disappear before your eyes.


God, we proclaim death to anything or anyone that will lift a hand against this network and this ministry that belongs to You, God. It is Your work, it is Your idea, it is Your property, it is Your airwaves, it is Your world, and we proclaim death to anything that would stand in the way of God's great voice of proclamation to the whole world. In the Name of Jesus, and all the people said Amen!


It is time to move on. I have given a period of grace to TBN's enemies and challengers, and I have used the pressure of this long trial to develop character and stamina in you and Jan and those around you who have held up your hands. But it is time to go forward. Speak, declare, prophesy the victory and purpose of God for TBN. No license will be revoked. No station will be shut down.


This is the Word of the Lord.


No station will be shut down. Oh, no, exclamation point! I am giving into your hand more licenses and more stations even more powerful than those that was threatened by the enemy.


The devil has shot himself in the foot.


It is time to push ahead into the promises of God. Call together the prophets, the teachers, the preachers, the pastors, the singers, and men and women of faith to agree with you in prayer and proclamation. It is time for the canceling of the enemy's assignment against TBN. The time has come to declare victory and to move forward to appropriate all the territory the Lord your God has reserved for His will and for His purpose in this hour. Let nothing deter you from pushing forward. Put an end to this long battle once and for all and move into the new era of victory and expansion I am holding out before you. You have many warriors with you, both human and angelic. I will open your eyes as I did those of Elisha and his servant to see the chariots of fire surrounding you.

More are they with you than your enemies! Arise! Call the people of God together and seize your victory. Take hold of the prize of your high calling of God in Christ Jesus. I am giving you the nations for your inheritance. Come! Follow Me! We have work to do in many lands. "

There used to be a great show in the 70s/80s called The King Is Coming with the Reverend Howard C. Estep. He had figured out that the AntiChrist foretold in Revelations was Anwar Sadat, and he must have been very disappointed when Sadat was assassinated.

Thanks for the links. I love this kind of stuff. It's like eating peanuts, I just can't stop. :D

They can't play if they won't pay!

I don't think we get this station or network or whatever in Canada, so this guy is new to me. Quite the character.

Ahh the Crouches. I used to have a VHS tape that I threw in the VCR one time when they had some "expert" playing the usual suspects: "Stairway to Heaven", "Suicide Solution." We used to watch it for laughs.

I used to watch them at my Mom's house in my hometown. But I can't get them where I live. Damn. They are SO entertaining -- in a gruesome-car-wreck sorta way.

Jan Crouch and Lindsey Roberts (Oral's daughter-in-law) don't have one whole brain between them. They sound like they're on major Stepford medication.

But damn if I remember whether it was the NBC affiliate or the Fox - watched both.

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