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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:49 PM
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NBC poll: Bush holds narrow lead
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6073871/

Less than six weeks before Election Day, the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll shows President Bush with a lead over Democratic challenger John Kerry — but it's within the margin of error, and it's much smaller than some other recent post-GOP convention polls indicate.

Still, the survey has some troubling numbers for Kerry as he tries to close Bush's narrow lead: Female voters aren't flocking to the Massachusetts senator as they have to past Democratic candidates, and a solid majority of overall voters believes he doesn't have a message, or doesn't know what he would do if elected.

The poll, conducted by Hart/McInturff, shows Bush receiving support from 48 percent of registered voters, Kerry getting 45 percent, and Nader getting 2 percent. Among likely voters (defined as those expressing high interest in the November election, who represent 78 percent of the survey), Bush holds a four-point lead over Kerry, 50 percent to 46 percent.

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But Bush has some troubling signs of his own. Even though the president has a slight lead in this poll, when voters were asked what they would want in a second term for Bush, 58 percent say they want major changes, compared with only 9 percent who say they want his second term to look a lot like his first term. "Look, he has to prove that he will pivot" in a second term, said Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart. Yet McInturff, the GOP pollster, added that this is something Bush can accomplish at the upcoming debates.


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charlie105 Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:02 PM
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1. If this depresses you, try this thread;
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:08 PM
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3. Not depressed at all..
voters will be watching the debates. Kerry's message will be very clear. And the awol prick won't have cheney's hand to hold or rove's lies to help him.

It's one on one vs. Kerry. The chimp will be wearing a diaper for safety.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:06 PM
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2. Polls show Bush has lead in his Fantasy world where Iraq is peaceful
and the Iraqis are throwing flowers at soldiers.

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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:17 PM
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4. Translation: Kerry has pulled way ahead.
The scandal of this election season is how ridiculous the polling has been.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:25 PM
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5. Poll on article page being freeped.
You know what to do.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:29 PM
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6. Not a lead. Within margin of error means it is tied or Kerry is ahead
The spin on these polls is incredible. When Kerry leads they call it a tie. When Bush leads they say the election is over. Media lies.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:37 PM
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7. What's troubling for Kerry is also troubling for Bush
It has to be troubling for Bush that he's in a statistical dead heat against a candidate without a message, and that much of his support is coming from women who are historically inclined to vote Democratic.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:40 PM
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9. No Message? What A Pantload. Typical Though.
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blackcat77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:40 PM
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8. A couple dots that nobody's connected...
1. Only 9% of people say that Bush should stay the course from what he's done first term if he's re-elected.
2. 59% of people say they know what Bush stands for.

So can we put these two together to say that people know what Bush is about and don't like it??

Damn, all Kerry has to do is let the people know who he is and what he stands for and we should be in great shape...
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nine30 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 09:59 PM
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10. Well at least the Phoney bounce is gone
The numbers are finally falling back to their natural level. Gallup's cleverly biased 35 pt (or something like that) lead is clearly gone. The race now stands at where it was just before the Repuke convention began.

As long as Kerry continues to hammer away like he did 2 days ago, he will continue to crawl up. I believe Kerry has taken the final position on Iraq, which deep within was his position all along though he may have been uneasy articulating it, and now he should just focus on it like a laser beam.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:16 PM
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11. Bush Will Lose!
Just you wait and see, there's no way he'll win unless he steals this election.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:23 PM
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12. Don't forget, this was in a poll of 2,000 ReTHUGlican households...
"Likely Voters" picked from Zip Codes that have a median income of $145,000+

And all he can pull is 50%?

The ONLY poll that matters, people, is the one they're taking on November 2nd, and they'll be polling POOR neighbourhoods as well as gated communities that day!
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:30 PM
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13. "Bush blows 11 point lead in little over a week"
I guess that headline would make too much sense
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:32 PM
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14. Bush holds NO lead. This is all corporate whore BS
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stldemocrat Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:38 PM
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15. When...
Kerry debates *, it will be the end. Bush-speak is no match for Kerry's more sophisticated logic.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 11:08 PM
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16. Imus and Howard Fineman were in agreement this morning that it was
all over for Kerry. Fineman said Kerry had given up on Ohio and was barely holding on in PA. Then they have this poll on NBC this evening. These polls are meaningless, tomorrow there will probably be one showing Bush up 15 points.
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CookieD Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 11:30 PM
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17. Poll was conducted before Bush* UN speech
In fact most of the poll was conducted before Kerry's speech in NY. So go ahead and subtract a point or two from chimpy and add a point to Kerry.

They're tied.

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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 11:33 PM
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18. narrow lead in what? kissing Finnish people?
Edited on Wed Sep-22-04 11:33 PM by truthisfreedom
hey, i'm Finn, i can say that.

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