Fallujah Strike Kills 4, Car Bomb Kills 3 ( Many US Casualties??)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040930/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq&cid=540&ncid=716


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BAGHDAD, Iraq - A suicide attacker exploded a car bomb Thursday west of Baghdad, killing at least one U.S. soldier and two Iraqi policemen and wounding 60 people, Iraqi and coalition officials said. The attack came after the United States struck a suspected militant safehouse in the troubled city of Fallujah, killing at least four Iraqis.


Three U.S. soldiers were among the wounded in the car bombing, which targeted a compound that houses the mayor's office, a police station and other buildings in the Abu Ghraib area, police 1st Lt. Ahmed Jawad said. A U.S. Bradley fighting vehicle parked in front of the compound was hit, he said.


Smoke and fire could be seen rising from the scene as U.S. forces sealed off the area. The wounded Americans were evacuated, said Maj. Philip Smith, spokesman for the U.S. 1st Cavalry Division.


At least two Iraqis were killed and 60 wounded, said Dr. Abbas al-Timimi of Abu Ghraib hospital. Four American soldiers were wounded and were evacuated, said Maj. Philip Smith, spokesman for the U.S. 1st Cavalry Division.

OMG.....another link

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040930/wl_nm/iraq_dc&cid=574&ncid=1480


Bomb Blasts in Baghdad Kill at Least 16 -Police

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BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Insurgents detonated at least two bombs near a U.S. military convoy in southern Baghdad on Thursday, killing at least 16 people, while a suicide bomber killed two Iraqi police and a U.S. soldier west of the capital.


The attacks are part of the mounting instability in Iraq (news - web sites) just four months before nationwide polls, and a few weeks before the U.S. presidential election. Attacks on U.S. troops have risen to around 80 a day from 40 a month ago.


Police said there had been at least two blasts in southern Baghdad, the first probably caused by a car bomb and the second occurring almost immediately afterwards, as U.S. troops tried to help those hit in the first explosion.


A policeman working with ambulance staff said at least 16 people had been killed. It was not clear if the victims were civilians or U.S. troops. The U.S. military had no immediate information.

:(

No URL yet.

Pathetic.

It appears as though there are MANY US casualties. I am sure the tv coverage will be right on top of this! :eyes:

maybe they won't report the numbers until saturday -- 'cause the pentagon won't let them.
sheeesh --

just a coincidence, I'm sure~

http://home.kyodo.co.jp/all/display.jsp?an=20040930214
Edit:
How does anyone know they are children killed.
Propaganda plays a very big part.Lets take the news and
article apart.First states 2 attacks near convoy of
military vehicles.37 bodies,50 wounded.Then second
attack happened as U.S troops tried to help those hit by the
first attack.Now analysis from this report states attack near
a convoy of military vehicles,meaning that there was more
than one vehicle many vehicles,this suggests it was not in
a populated civilian area.As the vehicles were in a convoy
ie moving and not stationary.Second thing in the report is
U.S soldiers tried to help those in the first attack.Believe me
U.S soldiers do not HELP anyone that is not a U.S soldier,
which means those casualties from the first
were American.Everyone is pushed back,U.S do not allow
Iraqi soldiers or police near American dead and wounded,
mainly for the reason of reporting and photographs.A
second attack occured this was what caused the majority
of casualties.

The world is safer for the Rovian because they will never have to venture into dangerous areas.

be true! To quote the french, GWB is an 'idiot.'

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040930/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_car_bombing&cid=540&ncid=1480


BAGHDAD, Iraq - Multiple explosions rocked a western neighborhood of Baghdad as a U.S. convoy passed by Thursday, killing at least 37 people and wounding more than 50, hospital and military officials said.


It was not known how many of the dead were soldiers and how many were civilians. A U.S. helicopter evacuated some of the wounded while other aircraft circled overhead, an Associated Press photographer reported from the scene. U.S. forces sealed off the area.


Interior Ministry spokesman Col. Adnan Abdul-Rahman said two car bombs and a roadside bomb exploded in swift succession as the convoy was passing. The attack happened around 1 p.m. in the al-Amel neighborhood, said Lt. Col. Jim Hutton, spokesman for the U.S. 1st Cavalry Division.


Yarmouk Hospital received 37 bodies and more than 50 wounded in the attack, said Dr. Nibras Hamdan.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040930/ts_nm/iraq_blasts_dc&cid=564&ncid=1480


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Insurgents detonated two bombs near a convoy of U.S. military vehicles in southern Baghdad on Thursday, killing at least 33 people and wounding scores more, Iraqi police said.

They said the first blast was probably caused by a car bomb. A second bomb detonated shortly afterwards, as U.S. troops tried to help those hit in the first explosion.


A policeman at the scene said he had counted at least 33 bodies and said around 50 people were wounded in the explosions. Local hospital officials said they were inundated with casualties.


It was not immediately clear how many of the victims were Iraqi or American.


The U.S. military had no immediate information on the attack.

....looks like chaos to me! :(

so much </sarcism>

can't let it out before the debates?!?



An Iraqi girl checks a burnt vehicle after a car bomb exploded in western Baghdad. Three car bombs rocked western Baghdad almost simultaneously targeting a new water pumping station and an Iraqi national guard checkpoint, the US military said, adding that there was no word yet on casualties.(AFP/File/Sabah Arar

This is very confusing... I count at least 4 car bombs so far in Western Baghdad...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/iraq_baghdad_blasts



BAGHDAD (AFP) - Three car bombs rocked western Baghdad almost simultaneously targeting a new water pumping station and an Iraqi national guard checkpoint, the US military said, adding that there was no word yet on casualties.



Earlier, another car bomb in area killed one soldier and two Iraqi police outside a US military base in the west of the capital, the military said.


The latest bombs went off at about 1:00 pm (0900 GMT) close to a ribbon-cutting ceremony for a new water pumping station on the western side of the city, Lieutenant Colonel James Hutton of the 1st Cavalry Division told AFP.


He said almost at the same time another car bomb went off near an Iraqi national guard checkpoint about one kilometer (half a mile) south of the site of water pumping station.


"We have no handle yet on casualties," he said.

Also, whenever there is mention
of Iraqi police/guard convoys attacked,
there s always USsoldier/intelligence
in those convoys.

Also. I would advize Intel to stop using GMC
or Chevy suburbans.

At least 35 people were killed and 120 wounded, many of them children, in a set of three car bomb blasts in southern Baghdad on Thursday, hospital officials said.

Officials at Yarmouk hospital said they were inundated with bodies and said at least 35 corpses had been brought in. They said 120 people were wounded, most of them children hit by shrapnel.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20040930/ts_nm/iraq_hospital_toll_dc

Dozens of children have been killed and injured in a series of explosions in Iraq.


Insurgents detonated three bombs near a convoy of United States military vehicles in southern Baghdad killing at least 41 and wounding at least 120.

Hospital officials 37 of those killed were youngsters. Likewise, most of those hurt were children hit by shrapnel.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13230137,00.html

were at that ribbon cutting ceremony for the new Water treatment plant. :(

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/iraq_baghdad_blasts



Most of the casualties were children who had gathered to watch ribbon-cutting ceremony for a new water pumping station in a working class district in the southwest of Baghdad when two car bombs exploded.


Almost simultaneously, another car bomb went off near an Iraqi national guard checkpoint about one kilometer (half a mile) south of the water pumping station.


Vast clouds of black smoke billowed into the air above the site of the attacks, which were quickly closed off by the US military and Iraqi forces.


Health Minister Alaadin Sahab Adwan said the three bombing claimed lives of 42 people and wounded 200 others, while the morgue director at Yarmouk hospital said some 37 of the victims were children.

Who's idea was it to bring children to a ceremony that someone should have fing fathomed would be a target?

and fuck the poor Iraqis. I am sure this was intended to be a photo op PR stunt for the "puppets" to show our steps toward democracy in Iraq.....

:puke:

Who's idea was it to bring children to a safe house where the terrorists plan and make their bombs to blow up DOZENS of children on purpose? Where are the pictures of these dozens of dead children? The news orgs and terrorist apologists are very quick to get or make up pictures of bloody children when a US bomb blows up a terrorist safe house. Where are these insurgent apologists now?

Did you ever consider that maybe our intel inside a no-go city like Fallujah, where we rely pretty much entirely on word-of-mouth from local Iraqi informants about safehouse locations, really really sucks? How do we know there are terrorists in those houses, when we don't have any troops within 10 miles of there?

"The news orgs and terrorist apologists are very quick to get or make up pictures of bloody children when a US bomb blows up a terrorist safe house."

Can you give me one example of a news organization making up pictures of dead and injured children?

:puke:

....to have children at important Iraqi gov't ceremonies & functions when we consider the phrase often bandied about our Chimp-in-Chief ----- "human shields".

I also wonder if that is part of the motivation in US troops handing out candy everywhere they go.

Iraq is war zone.

They should save the handing out of sweets until relative peace is achieved.

what a mess * made over there.

While the Bush campaign laughs and jokes their way through the war, children are dying.. our troops are dying. But it's much more important for the country to know that Kerry's face looked orange. :cry:

"A U.S. army officer said insurgents had detonated a series of three car bombs in the southern Baghdad attack, targeting a U.S. military convoy. The second and third blasts occurred as U.S. troops raced to help those hit in the first explosion."

Reuters

This does not look good.

So re #1 there wouldn't have been any children
in blasts 2 and 3.

Unless they were unable to move.

US Humvees and armoured vehicles in Baghdad's Sadr City. Photograph: AFP/Getty

>>The violence began with a suicide car bomb near a US checkpoint in the town of Abu Ghraib, west of the capital, at about 9.45am local time (0645 BST). Two Iraqi police officers and a US soldier were killed in the attack, and doctors said as many as 60 people, including women and children, were wounded.

A few hours later, at least 37 people were killed in three near-simultaneous explosions that appeared to be aimed at a US convoy in Baghdad's al-Amel neighbourhood<<.

Grim.

under the circumstances~

.. developing story.

I suppose that Kerry will be able to use this in tonights debate - especially in the "Why did we go into Iraq without a plan for peace" category.

But then again, wishful thinking I suppose :/

I've had CNN on for over an hour, and they're more interested in Vioxx being taken off the market. Nobody has unttered the words 'car bomb' since I turned it on.

-as

I'm not at home, so I couldn't check the TV - not that I bother to watch them anyway, I prefer BBC World.

and the US has not released the number of Soldier casualties. They probably won't until after the debates either.


Car Bombs in Iraq Kill at Least 42, Wound 140



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/iraq_dc


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Insurgents detonated three car bombs near a U.S. military convoy in southern Baghdad on Thursday, killing at least 35 people and wounding around 140, many of them children, officials and doctors said.


The apparently coordinated blasts came hours after a suicide bomber killed two Iraqi policemen and a U.S. soldier by detonating his car at a U.S. checkpoint west of the capital. Another car bomb blew up in the north, killing four people.


<snip>


A U.S. army officer said insurgents had detonated a series of three car bombs in the southern Baghdad attack, targeting a U.S. military convoy. The second and third blasts occurred as U.S. troops raced to help those hit in the first explosion.


It was not clear if most of the victims were civilians or U.S. troops. A U.S. military spokesman said he was awaiting more information but confirmed U.S. soldiers were hit in the blasts.

against convoys;dozens of attacks each day;
Iraqi police chiefs targeted;
dozens of hostages from many diff. countries.


If this isn't chaos,what is?

Haven't you heard? The US is going to retake all the cities in Iraq. :eyes:

(yes, I'm being sarcastic)

That means that these reports saying 35 or 42 dead do not include any US soldiers, US soldiers would not be taken to a US hospital.

The reports are very confused between the supposed water system opening ceremony and the 3-bomb attack on the US convoy. It seems these reports refer to two separate mass casualty bombings, one the water system opening in which it is reported that children were among those killed or wounded (the discrepancies and vagueness of these reports smell of propaganda); and the other the coordinated attack on a US convoy in which there were reports of at least 30 dead on the scene.

But some of these reports seem to conflate the two incidents, and its not really clear to me whether there were two or not.

They sure will report this on the evening news, it will be the top story, make no mistake. No conspiracy will keep this quiet.

n/t

As he prepared to pull A RABBIT (Osama) out of a hat at the debate

They were at the water treatment opening. Iknow they were trying to disrupt the military's work but to kill their own people, their own children is unthinkable.

My heart goes out to all who are in Iraq

.. the Iraqis know that we are killing civilians when we supposedly target the homes with bombs. The heavy handedness is backfiring on us... This is one the worst days in Iraq, since we did the large-scale bombing in the beginning that killed thousands of civilians.

This is just incredibly tragic... the children are caught in the crossfire between our bombs and their bombs. Unfortunately, the Iraqis are not turning against the insurgents, they blame us... because without us, there would not be the terrorist violence. Terrorism was not a factor before we got in there..

It's a sad, sad day. For our military, for the Iraqi children and their grieving families. Such horrors are going on as we sit comfortably in our warm homes discussing John Kerry's tan.

Check out the US Military contradictions in this report....http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1504&ncid=1504&e=1&u=/afp/20040930/ts_afp/iraq_040930141901

<snip>
The Iraqi government and US-led forces have blamed foreign fighters for many of the car bombings accusing groups including alleged Al-Qaeda operate Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi of wanting to plunge the country in a never-ending cycle of death and kidnappings to derail elections scheduled for January 2005.


And in justifying bombing and killing babies in Falluja..

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The military says the strikes have eliminated scores of Zarqawi's followers and disrupted his network, but doctors claim that many of the victims of the raids are women and children.

.... so they disrupted the "network" so well there were only 6 or so seperate car bombings today. This is more and more like VietNam!

but the story that is getting the most traction on LBN right now is Kerry's tan.

only 150 google.news items right now.

http://news.google.com/?hl=en&ncl=http://www.indolink.com/displayArticleS.php%3Fid%3D093004082646&scoring=d

... "this means we are winning, because if we weren't winning, they wouldn't be attacking us." Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, Saxby!

Wolf says a lot of people believe we're not winning. Sen. Levin says the admin is making "major mistakes" -- one of the biggest is that we're "going it alone."

Now Saxby says Kerry now has had 11 positions on the Iraq war.

Wolf interrupts him and says Kerry HAS given major speeches with a clear vision on Iraq (did someone put a good-guys pod next to evil Wolfie's bed this morning? He's actually making Chambliss answer some questions!).

Chambliss says Kerry's vision is identical to what the Bush admin is already doing.

This is still going on on CNN.

it is always opposite day in repuke world... :crazy:

After the number he did on Cleland, it's hard for me to believe that the Pukes who voted for him don't play RED Neck Rampage-- THE GAME 24-7

... Saxby says Kim Jong Il wants to have a dialogue about nukes.

Wolf says Bush is refusing to meet with him.

Well, Jong Il wants the dialogue on his terms, and Bush just isn't gonna do that, says Chambliss.

Levin says there's been no strong, cautious thought in the admin. about Iran (what HAS the admin thought about in a strong, cautious way? NOTHIN'!)

As I was scanning the cable stations one of them (I don't remember which) said that what happened was they were having a ceremonial opening of something that the US/Military had just finished (for some reason, I keep thinking it was a water treatment plant or something like that) and the troops were handing out candy to local children who came and that is when the car bombs exploded - thus the large amount of children killed. How horrible for all those babies that were killed.

As far as I'm concerned, any "resistance" that would justify killing children as part of getting their message out is despicable.

Note this is incomplete but I heard some actual numbers mentioned on MSNBC.

In one of the bombings there are reports of 10 US troops injured; in another, where one soldier was killed, there were also seven injured.

No link as yet. Perhaps someone can provide one as the situation is updated.

Yeah, sure.

US Falluja air raid claims more lives

Four people have been killed and six more wounded after US warplanes bombed Falluja, according to a hospital in the Iraqi city.

...

A local journalist, Abu Bakr al-Dulaimi, said a home in the Dhubat district had been completely flattened.

He told Aljazeera the bombing killed "a father, mother and their two children" and had created a sense of mass outrage in the city.

"The home was in the centre of a residential area, crowded with people. We have not seen any armed manifestations or armed men. And neighbouring families deny the presence of any armed men and any connection to them.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8E9442BD-F5E9-481C-BB96-57FBBAFBB152.htm

Have you read this article yet? The US military are the real terrorists...

http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FI29Ak01.html


<snip>
Immediately after the collapse of the non-negotiations, the US initiated almost daily bombing of various neighborhoods in Fallujah. The cover story has been that they are bombing "safe houses" used by terrorists associated with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and that no other people are present during the attacks. But hospitals report daily that the vast majority of the casualties are civilians. It is clear to everyone but the US public that the attacks are designed to persuade the people of Fallujah to abandon their support of the rebellion. To add a further element of threat to the equation, the US has repeatedly announced that it would soon reinvade the city, and during the second week of September even announced on loudspeakers that the residents of certain areas should evacuate because of a pending attack. This was a bluff. US military officials admitted to American reporters that they are waiting until after the November elections in the United States.

We can expect that the bombing will continue until November, followed by a full-scale assault on the city, one that might be far more brutal than the previous attacks on Fallujah and Najaf - unless, of course, the strategy changes again. In the meantime, there are ongoing overtures for new negotiations, but without either side changing its position.

I just caught a little bit on CNN. More wholesale US Terrorism to come...:(

This story is about terrorists that just killed dozens of children on purpose and you are attacking our brave young soldiers? Where are all the photographs of blown up children from this bombing? Aljazeera always posts pictures of bloody children when they are victims of those other than terrorist suicide bombers. Why no pictures for this terror bombing?

I recall several posters here put up many pictures of injured children when they were caught in a US bombing of a safe house. Why no pictures of the DOZENS of dead children from this terrorist suicide bombing? Where is the outrage?

and idiotface* in Washington are responsible. If you believe you can drop a 2000lb bomb in a heavy residential are and not kill innocents than you have been drinking the kool aid. Read the article I posted above. It is not al-Jazeera but one of the must highly rated publications online.

Who is covering for these terrorists?

go spend a few minutes on Yahoo in their Iraq photo gallery and you will see a never ending supply of dead maimed and injured Iraqis from US bombing and weopons. I post them daily...you can go find them yourself. I don't really think you care to see the truth.

Pictures of the dozens of children killed by the terrorist bombers that this thread is about. But you knew that.

In case you didn't read it, here is a link to an AP story posted last week: http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/9753603.htm.

"Operations by U.S. and multinational forces and Iraqi police are killing twice as many Iraqis - most of them civilians - as attacks by insurgents, according to statistics compiled by the Iraqi Health Ministry and obtained exclusively by Knight Ridder."

For every picture of a child killed by an Iraqi insurgent, it seems the US has killed several more. I believe that was the point trying to be construed, that we are being more brutal to the Iraqi people than the insurgents we're fighting.

for that poster every person killed by an Iraqi is innocent and every person killed by the US and their very smart bombs is guilty. Makes life nice and B&W.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/photo/world/G62658-2004Sep30.html

http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/search?p=Baghdad%20car%20bomb&c=news_photos

You know, Tahwid and Jihad doesn't claim to use precision weapons or avoid killing civilians. They want their horrors to be publicized. Yeah, that's outrageous too.

Insurgents? Hardly an appropriate title for these vermin that just targeted and killed DOZENS of children! Who are these terrorist apologists that give these murderers a name like "insurgents"?

the fighters were aiming for the occupying Army who unfortunately should have known better than to LURE children out into a war zone with candy! The guilt is to be shared here.

The Mafkarat al-Islam correspondent, who visited the scene
of the attack immediately afterwards and spoke with
local residents, confirms that the US forces for some
three weeks had been accustomed to using local children
as human shields. They would throw out cheap candies,
sports balls, and extremely cheap tee-shirts as they
passed through the area in order to attract the children to
the military vehicles whenever they came through the
area. Today they did the same thing, as has become
their practice, and as a result a large number of
children gathered around the US Humvees and
armored vehicles that had come in for an American
celebration of the reopening of a heavy water treatment
facility that had been build by the Iraqi government
under President Saddam Hussein, but wrecked by the
US invasion.

Further evidence that this is true came from an
American Associated Press (AP) report that quoted a 12-year-
old boy, ‘Abd ar-Rahman Dawud in hospital after being injured
in the blast, as saying, “the Americans called us, they told
us, ‘Come here, come here,’ asking us if we wanted sweets.
We went beside them, then a car exploded.”

I don't know if this is actually the case, but I certainly can see it being seen that way by many people in the middle east. At the least, it was negligent to attract children by giving out candy, to an event which was likely to be a target. It shouldn't have come as a surprise that a public relations ribbon cutting ceremony would be targeted.

Aren't the Bushies only interested in the good things?

Twenty-one Americans were killed around noon on
Thursday when an explosives-laden Opel car detonated in
the midst of a column of US troops on the highway to
Saddam International Airport opposite the al-‘Amil
neighborhood to the east and the Ibn Taymiyah Mosque to
the west.

The correspondent of Mafkarat al-Islam reported that
the American column had been made up of GMC cars, of
the type used by the American intelligence agencies, which
were being escorted and guarded by several Bradley
armored vehicles and Humvees. The massive car bomb
killed 21 Americans when it blew
one Bradley, three of the GMCs, and three of the
Humvees
to pieces.

Then as the Americans were putting the remains of their dead
in plastic bags, a black car appeared on the scene in the
midst of the troops and violently exploded killing 18
more Americans and destroying two Bradley armored
vehicles and two Humvees.

How do you identify a CIA agent in Iraq? Do they wear jackets with "CIA" on the back? Do they have nametags that say "Sam Johnson, CIA Agent, USA"? That statement alone makes me very suspicious of stories like this.

Or Military types wearing civilian clothing who seem to be
calling the shots.

I'll never forget that shot of the tank on the overpass
in Beijing (Tiananmen), where that guy on the ground
was manuevering the driver by waving his pistol.

You know, that kind of authority.

Or this:

Three Zionist Mossad agents were killed in the Land
Cruiser. They were found in possession of weapons made
in “Jerushalim,” Ghaddar pistols, also made by the Zionist
entity and one of them had a Mossad identity card on
which appeared his name.

Resistance attack devastates meeting of top US
occupation commanders with leading collaborationist tribes.
25 Americans, 27 Iraqi puppet troops said killed in
massive blast.

At least 25 US troops and 27 Iraqi puppet “national
guardsmen” and puppet policemen were killed in a massive
car bombing that targeted a secret meeting of the
occupation forces’ command with leaders of
collaborationist tribes in Abu Ghurayb. The local
correspondent of Mafkarat al-Islam reported that a Russian-
built Zil blew up in a massive explosion in the area where
the secret meeting was under way between an Abu
Ghurayb complex building and a building belonging to
the puppet “national guard” (“ACBC”) set up and run by the
US aggressors.