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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 04:22 AM
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Diana: Al Fayed 'wants truth'
Edited on Tue Sep-02-03 12:49 PM by Skinner
Mohamed al Fayed has said he is determined to "discover the truth" behind the death of Diana, Princess of Wales, and his son Dodi, on the sixth anniversary of the tragedy.

Dodi's father has called for a public inquiry to investigate the full details of the devastating 1997 crash in a Paris underpass...

Mr al Fayed, who still maintains that the couple were assassinated by the British Secret Service, said: "As each year passes my determination to discover the truth about why this tragedy happened grows stronger.

"I am supported by fair-minded people everywhere who know this was not an accident.

EDITED BY ADMIN: COPYRIGHT

http://www.channel4.com/news/news_story.jsp?storyId=1149705

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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 08:01 AM
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1. how about in inquiry into why landmines are still killing the
children in third world countries?
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conservdem Donating Member (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 08:01 AM
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2. I think I read on this web cite that the Bush administation was behind it.
Edited on Sun Aug-31-03 08:02 AM by conservdem
Please forgive the light hearted critisism.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 11:50 AM
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5. would not surprise me if they'd be behind getting the inquiry
underway....a nice distraction from the Iraq mess, no?

Why do I think Rupert Murdoch is a prime mover on this?
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 09:53 AM
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3. So the chauffeur
commits suicide in the service of the British Secret Service? In a plot to assasinate Diana?
Not likely.
The fishy business in England is David Kelly, not Diana.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 09:57 AM
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4. What better way to distract the Brittish press
than with a story about the Royals?
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 11:56 AM
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6. It may be both my dear friend. Don't be too close minded!
Research will answer questions.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 03:40 PM
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11. There was a program about this on CBC last night.
Edited on Sun Aug-31-03 03:53 PM by JohnyCanuck
There was a British TV program on the CBC news channel last night about the Diana story.

These are just a few of the points they brought up for discussion in the program. .

They mentioned it took the ambulance with Diana over an hour to reach the hospital 3 miles away and the ambulance stopped twice on route for extended periods of time. The official explanation was because the medical personnel in the ambulance were concerned over Diana's low blood pressure. WTF? Medical authorities agreed that the delay in getting Diana to the hospital greatly increased the likelihood of her sucumbing to the injuries she suffered in the accident.

Also there was a traffic camera at the entrance to the tunnel (since removed). At the time of the accident the authorities said the camera was not working and therefore had no picture of Diana's Mercedes. However a French driver received a speeding ticket as a result of a traffic ticket from this same camera a short time before the accident with Diana (I can't remember right now how long before). There is evidence now (from leaks to the press by pissed-off French traffic police) that the camera was working and a picture does exist of the Mercedes showing it was doing approx 65km per hr. (about 40 mph) as opposed to the 190 km per hr that they alledged had been the speed entering the tunnel.

This report also mentioned evidence of tinkering with the blood tests of the driver. He was supposed to have been drunk and had high blood alcohol levels and high carbon monoxide levels as well. A doctor interviewe said that with carbon monoxide levels that high he would have had trouble standing up straight and should at least have been suffering noticeable symptoms such as headaches, nausa etc. The first reports of his blood alcohol levels being high came out before the blood alcohol tests were even complete and the authorities refused to release any samples of the blood to his next of kin to get DNA tests run to prove that the sample was legitimately from the driver.

Remember the White Fiat that had left paint traces in the tunnel and evidence of a brokent tail light and which the French authorities were looking for? This TV report said in spite of all the hoopla the French authorities concentrated on searching Paris only (not the rest of France) for this white Fiat and then claimed they never found it. Some French reporters found a white Fiat with matching paint and a recently repaired tail light somewhere in France (can't remember where) and it turned out to belong to a well known French photographer who had spent several days sometime prior to the accident in Diana's company aboard a yacht. He was on record as having boasted to family and aquaintances that he had been in the tunnel at the time of the accident. He was also strongly suspected of having connections and having worked in the past for French and/or British intelligence agencies.

Some time later he turned up burnt to death inside his car on a French military training ground somewhere in the French countryside. The official verdict, suicide.

On edit, I just rememberd another point they discussed. The claim that the Mercedes had been speeding at approx 190km/hr (roughly 120 mph) was based on the fact that the speedometer in the wrecked car was allegely stuck at 190km/hr (or slightly over). However Mercedes engineers disputed that the speedometer could have become stuck in such a fashion due to the accident, and said that it should have reverted back to zero in light of the circumstances surrounding how the accident supposedly occurred. Merecedes was also paid to carry out crash tests on similar model Mercedes to try to recreate the accident and measure the effects. However, the Merecedes engineers were never allowed to examine the actual wreckage of Diana's car.

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DifferentStrokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 02:08 PM
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7. Poor man
I pray that this grieving father will find peace. It's not going to come from the where or the why, but from the people who love him enough to fill the huge gaping hole in his heart.

It's so very hard to lose a child.
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 02:26 PM
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8. If it was not a tragic accident.....

I don't think I want to know what it was.

The death of that lovely, intelligent,
proud, loving and yet so sad lady was a
heart breaker for everyone.

I see her now in her son Prince Charles
and it helps to see the circle of life
going forward.

Let it go Fayed........let time and Gods'
Grace heal us all.
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rook1 Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 02:47 PM
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9. Agreed
...let it go.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 03:13 PM
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10. He can't let it go
There are too many unanswered questions.

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rook1 Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 03:56 PM
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12. Like what?
...that her driver was drunk...that he was driving too fast.What purpose could her death serve?

All I know is that it was a tragedy. She was an exceptional woman. Certainly she was far above any of the Royals that we see today. It remains to be seen if her son's have her traits.

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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 10:36 PM
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13. WHAT ON EARTH?!?!?!?!?
Edited on Sun Aug-31-03 10:39 PM by Pert_UK
"I see her now in her son Prince Charles
and it helps to see the circle of life
going forward."

Newsflash...Charles is her former husband, not her son. You'll be thinking of William, or possibly Harry (who many people think was the result of an illicit affair).

"Intelligent"?...hmmm...not sure about that one either.

I'm not glad that she died, and she did do some very good charitable work in her life, although that was kind of her job. Her death was not a "heartbreaker to everyone", especially the tabloid newspapers who spent years hounding her and digging up all her little faults, and who then did the most hypocritical U-turn in history when she died, making millions out of their OTT Saint Diana death coverage.

I am sorry that she died, in the same way that I'm sorry for any other life cut short, but most of my friends expressed irritation rather than heartbreak at the event.

I've nothing against Diana personally, but I am hugely against this Diana Cult that has grown since her death.

RIP to her.

P.


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Spentastic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 07:11 AM
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17. On dangerous ground Pert
She was a parasitic aristocrat that knew how to play the media. Since her death she has been effecitively canonized.

We paid for her life. Lots of people are far worse off than she ever was.

I don't miss her (charity work excepted).

The public greif following her unfortunate demise was extremely worrying. If the public are so easily manipulated it's entirely possible they'll believe anything.
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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 07:16 PM
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24. Yeah, well, it's important to point these things out....
especially to people who think that Charles was one of her kids....

I did the same thing, only more politely, in a Diana Tribute thread in the lounge....I don't want to offend people in their "grief", but I suppose that my point is that this "grief" is pretty misplaced IMHO.

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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 12:15 AM
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14. She was clearly Assasinated! The cameras have no footage
on that day that hour right when she was killed. and there were like 23 cameras on route. None worked that night! That is the damning information and the reports of bloodlevels given to the public was different than on the real reports.

The suspicions is that CIA NSA and British Military were involved

CIA has documents which Fayed is requesting.

Diana was taking on the Land Mines industry and she was getting ready to Marry a Muslim

The way Kelly has died and Wellstone and others these agencies are out of control! or are they IN CONTROL
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 01:17 AM
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15. there was a man stand outside the tunnel that saw a bright flash just
before the "accident". later they had him stand where he was that night and they flashed regular flash bulbs. he said they were brighter. the next flash was really bright and he said that 'that' was the flash he saw. The flash was from a 'Photo Stun' device, designed to totally blind an attacker for several minutes to allow the victim to run away.it is a multi million candle power strobe.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 07:03 AM
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16. Diana was done for, say Brits
A quarter of Britons believe Princess Diana was murdered, according to an opinion poll published six years after her death.

The survey in the Sunday Express newspaper found 27% of respondents believed Diana was murdered, 51 percent thought she wasn't and the remaining 22% had no opinion.

Forty-nine percent of people questioned in the poll, conducted by polling company NOP, said they thought there had been a cover-up of the circumstances of Diana's death following a car crash in a Paris tunnel on August 31 1999. Her companion Dodi Fayed and driver Henri Paul were also killed.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1410014,00.html
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:04 AM
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18. I bet he does, but al-fayed is to probity what Diana was to chastity....
Of her officially recorded life, she admitted to affairs/extramarital flings with up to thirteen men including the captain of the UK rugby
team, a pakistani doctor, a london art dealer, a self-confessed arsehole called james hewitt who is trying to flog her putative love letters for a reported $10 million, as well as various 'comfort men' - courtiers, body guards and ex school chums. That she had a right royal appetite for adultery has become overshadowed by the cult of the whitewashed diana, after her highly covert death investigation in Paris. Then the kids got her 17 million pounds legacy, without the mere formalities of inheritance procedure, thanks to former UK
John Major being appointed their legal guardian. His reward: directorship of the Carlyle Group!
In her TV interview with Martin Bashir she said of her marriage: 'there were three of us in that marriage, so it was a bit difficult'. Just hope the coroner knows which body to exhume if someone challenges the court to provide DNA proof about the kids' inheritance! Check it out: look at her engagement photos, her wedding day pics, the post Taj Mahal caper shots......
Her official bootmaker/shoemakers hold some interesting records about her foot size, too.....
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:23 AM
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19. There's a long list of reasons
why the royal family would want/need to be rid of Diana. First, she was often a source of embarassment, the divorce, her confessions on TV... Then she had the nerve to start publicly dating an Arab playboy, from a questionable family. I think just the rumor that Diana and Dodi were an item, and that he was planning to ask her to marry him, would be enough reason to 'have to do something about the problem'.

The part that never made sense to me, was why did it take so long to get her to a hospital? This is a well documented fact that it took from 1 - 2 hours to get to a hospital a few minutes away. They didn't even put her in the ambulance for almost an hour and when they found her she still alive and was able to talk. She was not trapped in the car either. So there is no excuse for this woman to have died under these circumstances. Makes you wonder why the family wasn't upset by the fact that the princess didn't get immediate and adequate emergency care?


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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 07:39 PM
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26. One report I heard at the time
is that French ambulances (or some of them) are equipped more like a trauma room than those in the US. Supposedly it is normal procedure to start major trauma care in a stationary ambulance rather than transport immediately. This has proven successful as no time is wasted in the "golden hour" after an accident.

I really can't believed this was a hit. A car crash is just too iffy. How could they know she wouldn't be wearing a seat belt (something she reportedly always did)? There were a couple American trauma doctors on Nightline (or something) at the time that said that she would not have sustained the injury that killed her if she'd had a belt on. The only survivor of the crash was wearing a seat belt.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 03:57 PM
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20. DuctapeFatwa
Per DU copyright rules
please post only 4
paragraphs from the
news source.

Thank you.

NYer99
DU Moderator
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:23 PM
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22. the source only had sentences, I could have made them paragraphs

I just pulled out the sentences that had the main points of the story to avoid breaking the other rule about pasting selectively from a story to change the meaning.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 04:06 PM
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21. The big Neo-Con Picture
Edited on Mon Sep-01-03 04:06 PM by Tinoire
We all know the plans for the current and coming wars to conquer the Middle East were written in the early 90's with Britain totally collaborating.

I ask you, how would it have looked to be waging these wars while the future Queen was out galivanting with a Muslim?

Do you think this larger-than-life little girl who raged about land-mines, would have shut-up or spoken out?

What do you think the effects of her speaking out would have been?

If you haven't thought of these things, trust me that very determined ruthless men did.

There is no way in hell that was an accident.

Diana had to go before she upset the plans of neo-cons around the world.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 05:53 PM
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23. More than what you've pointed out....
Had Diana & Dodi married, Wills and Harry's exposure to abduction/kidnapping would have created a situation that was uncontrolable for security agents. The risk factor was too high to allow terrorists an open invition for plotting a kidnap/hostage or worse assassination of the future King of England.

And, what if Diana had given birth to a 1/2 brother or sister to the King of England? Her relationship w/Dodi was doomed from the getgo. Pity Diana underestimated the resolve of the crown to protect the monarchy. She might be alive today if she could have outwitted the bastards. She didn't have it easy, they tortured and tormented her unmercifully until she died a painful unecessary death at the hands of the Royal WE.

God rest her soul.


The Earl of Althorp was on tv the other night. Wills is the spitting image of Diana's brother. Wills and Charles look like brothers...
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 07:18 PM
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25. I adored Diana! She was like JFK! deep down Wonderful person
and the Right is doing everything to discredit them

But pictures speaker louder than words and those pictures of her with the children with aids were unbelievably compassionate.

She loved Children and she tryed to help them.
and she was killed for that. I call her a Martyr!

:bounce:
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