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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 02:19 PM
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Iraqis' Rage at Boiling Point
BAGHDAD — More at ease with the gentle voice she uses to teach elementary school students, Khawla Ahmed struggled Saturday to find diplomatic language to express her outrage at what life has become in Iraq.

But as she rattled off the mounting horrors of thieves prowling in daylight, sabotage knocking out lights in schools and water in the kitchen, and now terrorist strikes killing scores of Iraqis, her anger escalated into a venomous tirade at the country's U.S.-led administration.

"America considers itself the superpower of the world, but here it is powerless to keep any semblance of order," she said. "The Americans fired our police and our army. Now there is no security and foreign terrorists are coming across our borders."

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As living conditions have been slow to improve due in part to persistent sabotage, Iraqis increasingly have begun to suspect that the U.S.-led invasion was aimed at stealing their natural wealth, not liberating them from oppression

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/complete/la-fg-mad31aug31,1,4515342.story?coll=la-home-headlines

From the article it seems that more and more Iraqi's are starting to feel that life was better under Saddam, even though the average Iraqi hated him. That's quite an achievement for the U.S.
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 02:46 PM
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1. "she rattled off the mounting horrors"

quite a different picture than AWOL
said it would be.

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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 02:51 PM
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3. yeh.. well what does she know?
she's only living it every day. Rummy and the CEO of Iraq, Paul Bremer, say things are going swimmingly. Who are we to believe?!!
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 02:50 PM
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2. I thought the bush regime had banned rage in Iraq

Maybe they should try more aggressive raids, kick some doors down, shoot into some crowds, send a clear zero tolerance for rage message.
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BelgianMadCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 04:21 PM
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11. please, let there be no War on Rage !
I think there shouldn't be any more wars on pronouns...
:-)
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 04:42 PM
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14. Chimpy to Iraq: "Atrocities will continue until morale improves."
:grr:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 02:52 PM
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4. Yup... This Is Lookin REAL Bad !!!


From MSNBC's Home Page.

This is what I woke up to this morning, the next few days could be really heart-wreching, ya know???

:scared:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 02:52 PM
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5. Georgie just can't stop uniting people
Against us, and now even in support of Saddam.

That warrior president of ours -- what a guy!
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tinnypriv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 02:58 PM
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6. Chomsky:
Edited on Sun Aug-31-03 02:59 PM by tinnypriv

"It would take real talent to fail to impose a regime less onerous than that of Saddam and the sanctions. It's worth recalling that military occupations usually succeed pretty well, relying on collaborators to run the country, unless the invaders really go out of their way to elicit resistance by barbarism and stupidity"

Sums it up nicely.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 02:59 PM
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7. Sounds as if we turned Iraq into a Dodge City of sorts....
And Wyatt & Doc haven't been seen in months.
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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 03:10 PM
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8. Dissolving the army and police has turned out to be an act of
monumental stupidity.
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 03:44 PM
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9. And just what part of this action
has "not" been a monumental act in stupidity. All this time I thought this admin was just super arrogant. They are, but they are also just 3rd grade stupid.

They make me........ :crazy:
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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 03:57 PM
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10. but....but......
They're the administration that was going to run the government like a business, unfortunately their model is Enron.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 04:30 PM
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12. "Iraqis' Rage at Boiling Point" -- goodness knows, mine sure is!
Insert "Revolution now!" comment here.

:)-Lori

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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 04:30 PM
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13. I feel rage against the outrageous too.
And I vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 06:11 PM
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15. Too bad W refused
to listen to focus groups like DU and the millions of people around the world who protested this war. Unfortunately, just about everything that we predicted would go wrong, has gone wrong. I knew we were right, I just didn't expect to be so right.

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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 07:03 PM
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16. Exactly
And if we were right, there will be much more hell to pay than merely casualties in Iraq.

It is one thing for Bush and his tribe to have mindlessly thrown US soldiers to the wolves. That is a kind of despicable trade, the sacrificing of US military lives for the prize of the oil fields and the territory. But much more signficantly he has exposed all of us here to danger, too, not merely of terrorism but of economic catastrophe and the consequences of international revulsion.
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msanger Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 07:09 PM
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17. how many dead americans for each Harburton million?
that's what I'd like to know.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 07:12 PM
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18. Hey, it's a win-win situation for this admin...
The fewer that come back, the fewer will hit the unemployment lines for low paying jobs.

Who, me? I'm not cynical.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 07:37 PM
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20. ouch. Maybe more tobacco for everyone in Iraq so they go away. n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 07:21 PM
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19. junior tells the American folks
Things are going swell. There will be no retreat! No more deaths after March.

Now I know why junior doesn't ride horses. A horse has more sense and would kill the nitwit. Horses don't like folks that don't
have good sense.


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FreeperSlayer Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 08:30 PM
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21. yep
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 11:13 PM
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22. the beginning of a civil war, it seems.
if American troops are caught in between, and if terrorists continue to flock to Iraq, if Bush tries to open another "frontier" in the war on terror, we might as well lock the banks and go home.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 07:50 AM
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23. "Pride goeth before the fall...."
If we had the brains to relinquish "control" of iraq over to UN forces, the occupation would generate a hell of a lot less antagonism toward the US and might even add a bit of stability.

As it appears now, the bills are going to continue getting larger and we're going to be paying them longer. I guess Bushco is planning on simply printing more money to pay for the fiasco.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 07:57 AM
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24. I don't think BushCo is competent to handle this
They are too ideologically blind, and expect the UN to come in and yet allow Halliburton to continue their no-bid contracts.

well, gee, assholes, not everyone is willing to let American crony capitalists to fuck them over, unlike too many American people, who bend over whenever Bush opens his mouth.

And I don't know why the UN would be willing to insert itself into a civil war which America allowed to happen because of the willful stupidity of BushCo.

How many millions around the world could see what Bush and his junta could not? It's astonishing, really. A very small percentage of people actually wanted the US to invade Iraq, and those who did were willing to accept BushCo's lies as fact.

I just feel for the Iraqi people, who once again bear the brunt of power politics.

Not to mention American soldiers...though they have more options that the Iraqi people...it's not their country.

Until BushCo is removed from office, I'm afraid we'll have more problems and greater screw ups all around. At least that's the lesson from their past actions.

The Taliban is doing pretty well in Afganistan still, too...

not that Bush wants you to know that.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 08:05 AM
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25. Re: Taliban... I'll bet dollars to donuts that our involvement in
fighting them will remain minimal until they threaten the new oil pipeline routes. THEN they will e a terroris risk again.
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