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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:15 PM
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GOP drops (5,000 Ohio) voter challenges (their error)
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/24/loc_voters24.html

By Cindi Andrews
Enquirer staff writer

Republicans withdrew their challenges to 5,000 voter registrations in Hamilton County on Saturday after learning the challenges themselves contained mistakes.

The challenges were among 35,000 that Republicans filed in 65 of Ohio's 88 counties Friday afternoon. They targeted newly registered voters whose mail was rejected as undeliverable.

The Hamilton County Board of Elections discovered Saturday some challenges had mismatched names and addresses, according to state GOP Chairman Bob Bennett. It was a clerical error when databases were merged, he said.

The party doesn't think there are problems with challenges elsewhere in the state, spokesman Jason Mauk said.

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mrsadm Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:21 PM
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1. that's 5,000 down, 30,000 to go!
Let's fight this all the way!
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 02:36 PM
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9. 5,000 to go or is it 30,000 to go?
Republicans withdrew their challenges TO 5,000 voter registrations...

Instead of:
Republicans withdrew their challenges OF 5,000 voter registrations..

It is all in how you read it.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:26 PM
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2. Gee, they seem to have that problem all the time. They did that
in Florida with the felon list.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:53 PM
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3. How could the names and addresses be mismatched?
A two year old kid couldn't do that!
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:18 PM
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13. Let's see. So thousands more legally registered voters could be denied
their right to vote?

Just an educated guess ...
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:40 PM
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15. The point being that names and addresses could not be mismatched...
unless intentionally
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 05:37 PM
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16. Exactly. Quite obviously this "error" was by design. (nt)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 12:58 PM
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4. Maybe the solution to this problem
is to simply register voters without allowing a specific affiliation.
Why not let everybody vote in the primaries? Voters could select a party ticket in the booth, thereby allowing them to switch parties without fear of having their registration challenged.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:02 PM
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5. I hope that these thugs are not immune to civil actions brought against
them by outraged legitimate voters.

A challenge of this type is effectively publicly accusing an innocent voter of planning to commit a felony.

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classics Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:39 PM
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6. Another ploy to wreck the election.
Submitting false challenges then submitting a redaction will only make the job of the election staff harder as they now have to sort through the bigger mess the local GOP dropped in thier lap.

This just stinks of intentional election interference.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:49 PM
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7. Ohio is where the 6 crooked notaries went to work
-the ones who were forced to quit in another state. They were charged yesterday.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 01:58 PM
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8. Can't they vote with a provisional ballot?

That's why I told the people that I registered to keep their receipt and GO CRAZY on anyone that will not give them a Provisional Ballot.
Gave them the numbers to call and to take two ID's to the polls with them.

Also told minority new voters to stand their ground. I told them our ancestors worked too hard for us to vote! I strongly warned them,"Don't let nobody turn you around at the polls.! You stand there, with a paper and pencil in your hand, take names,write down what they had on,time of day and make as much solid noise as possible so that the other voters will know what is happening to you,"

Get names, phone numbers of witnesses and start calling the Voter Hotlines, ACLU ,even if they let you vote, call and tell them what happened to you!
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 02:49 PM
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10. That's good to hear, thanks
for your hard work! The repukes here in Northeast Ohio are particularly disgusting goons. One of their goals in challenging voter qualifications is simply to slow down the voting process for everyone else and frustrate those in line, so that many will leave. Unfortunately for them, this time we're wise to it and won't let them get away with it.

And I sincerely hope minority voters will not allow themselves to be intimidated by these goons at the polls, who often take advantage of the fear many minority voters have of authority and authoritarian figures. That's why these banana republic goons will threaten them with criminal prosecution for "voter fraud" and other such unbelievable bullshit. If I see ANY of this shit at my own polling place on election day, I will for goddamn sure not put up with it.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:18 PM
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14. We at DU should really all be poll watchers

that day.

I am leaving a a few minutes to attend a session on " How to Help on Nov.2nd. It is a training session in Santa Monica.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 02:54 PM
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11. Ooops sorry that anyone found out about us hating Democracy
Oh and please don't show the pictures of the coffins around the mall yesterday.....oh you didn't ? Good.
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 03:16 PM
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12. Good, they are trying to challenge 14,000 votes in Semonole Co, FL
One of the most highly Republican Counties in FLorida, where early voting indicates that many more Democrats are voting than anticipated. This challenge virtaully challenges every single democratic vote in that county, on a small technicality that the Democrats should have not problem getting thrown out. They must smell fear in the air, as Florida Democrats have all but prevented Republicans from being able to do what was done in 2000, so the only recourse they have left is to try to get as many voteres disenfranchised as possible. Recent estimates show that there may have been twice as many Democrats registered in the state of FLorida as the Department of Voters indicated in the last count of August 2, 2004, which came up with 359,000 more Democrats than Republicans, Early estimates indicate that FLorida Democrats may outnumber Republicans by as much as 700,000 voters, at least half newly registered voters.

Remember, the closer to election day, and the more appeals Democrats issue to the Republican challenges, the closer to the final date for all vote couts to be in to the electoral college. If all challeges can be stalled for five weeks, it is over, just as it was in 2000.

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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 05:39 PM
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17. I guess the thought of jail due to fraud may be more frightenning.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:43 PM
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18. We need an ad on this
Something along the line of

Our troops are fighting and dying in Iraq to give the Iraqi's the vote. But the republican party is working here to deny the right to vote for American citizens.

It would work really well say if one of the 30,000 is a recently returned Iraq war vet. If one happened to be a Combat wounded vet, that would take it over the top.

Somebody should be working on this. A serious pr slam would put a stop to this sort of nonsense.
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