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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:49 PM
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9/11 Victims to Deliver Complaint to NY Attorney General Calling for Full
9/11 Victims to Deliver Complaint to NY Attorney General Calling for Full Criminal Investigation of September 11th Attacks
Wed Oct 27,11:10 AM ET

To: National Desk
Contact: David Kubiak, 207-967-2390, Kyle F. Hence, 401-935-7715 or 212-243-7787 or kfh@911citizenswatch.org; both of 911truth.org
News Advisory:


http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usnw/20041027/pl_usnw/9_11_victims_to_deliver_complaint_to_ny_attorney_general_calling_for_full_criminal_investigation_of_september_11th_attacks118_x

Wed Oct 27,11:10 AM ET

A coalition of 9/11 victim family members, survivors and advocacy groups will deliver a formal complaint requesting a new criminal investigation of 9/11 events to New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer this Thursday following a 2:00 PM press conference outside the Equitable Building (corner of Nassau and Cedar Streets). The Complaint petitions the Attorney General to launch an independent in-depth criminal and civil probe of evidence suggesting grave official misconduct including criminal negligence, criminal facilitation, and accessorial abetment of murder, insider trading, obstruction of justice, and other violations of New York law.

The Complaint asks the Attorney General to seek justice for 9/11 crimes by applying New York State law to recover damages incurred by state and local governments from corporations and individuals whose conduct furthered the criminal conspiracy. The Complainants, including victim family member Bob McIlvaine who lost his son, maintain that few if any of these charges or supporting evidence were adequately investigated by the 2002 Joint Intelligence Inquiry or the 9/11 Commission which released its final report last July.

"For many New Yorkers, AG Spitzer is the last hope for finding the truth about what happened on 9/11 and enforcing the law." noted spokesperson David Kubiak. "Because administration officials have classified evidence under the "state secrets" doctrine, preempting local probes and obstructing official inquiries, there has been no comprehensive, credible independent investigation of the attacks. The Attorney General clearly has jurisdiction if he chooses to assert it. Given the scale of 9/11 carnage, incalculable damages suffered and evidence covered-up or ignored, his constituents are now telling him that he must. Fifteen New York legislators have stepped up to endorse this demand so we're at a very remarkable choice point in 9/11 history."

Although the Complaint follows years of independent investigation and research, its legal form was triggered by three recent developments: 1) the failure of the Kean Commission Report to provide a credible explanation of the 9/11 attacks, to hold anyone accountable, or answer most of the questions posed by the 9/11 Family Steering Committee (note 1); 2) the August 31st Zogby 9/11 poll (note 2) which showed that nearly half of New Yorkers believe government officials were "consciously" complicit in the attacks, and that two-thirds want a new investigation; and 3) the testimony and evidence put forth at the September 9, 2004 9/11 Citizens' Commission hearings in Manhattan, organized by the watchdog and activist groups 9/11 CitizensWatch and 911truth.org.

The Complaint is preceded by today's release of the "9/11 Statement," a call for new investigations signed by over 100 American opinion leaders including three third-party presidential candidates, a former U.S. Ambassador, a New York firemen, professors, theologians and forty 9/11 families.

The "9/11 Statement" and Spitzer Complaint will be available one half hour prior to the 2 p.m. Thursday press conference at the northwest corner of Cedar and Nassau Streets (NE corner of Equitable Building). The 9/11 Statement will be posted at 911truth.org from 2 p.m. today. The Spitzer Complaint will be posted at http://www.justicefor911.org following the Thursday press conference. Further details to follow.
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(1) http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html

(2) http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855

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AndrewJacksonFaction Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:54 PM
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1. How come none of this gets any media attention.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:01 PM
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2. watched the families hold a news conference on CSPAN this am
but they seem to get very little air time in reg media
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 09:13 PM
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26.  the political class, intent upon class war, has lost it's way
Theoretically, a dramatic and remarkable turnabout is
still possible, but it would take the most amazing
political transformation ever seen.

Like the Cards winning the WS.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is
ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is
accepted as self-evident."

Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860

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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:28 AM
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34. We Are Coming Face To Face With Stage Two In A Few Days
I am glad to be abroad to keep my young daughter safe. Take good care fellow DUers and prayers from Sicily.
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dqueue Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:33 PM
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11. Way to go!
I heartily commend this group! Unfortunately, I don't think the media will give them the attention they deserve. Worse, I see this as an impetus for bushco to do whatever they may to stay in power. This administration will never open up the necessary documents to allow a full investigation; they're complicit! The media won't bite during this election crunch time... We need to get out the vote, and make Kerry understand that we demand justice when he's elected -- we'll have none of this pardon bu**sh** so we can "all move forward" (i.e., Ford's pardon of Nixon).

Okay... done venting...
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Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:52 PM
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21. They should be also calling for the release of the CIA 9/11 report that
the Bush administration is holding until after the election.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:21 PM
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29. CIA via the Mafia ala Cheney????.......Wrong propaganda!!!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:05 PM
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3. rate it high igh igh!
I'm first it's got 5!
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:08 PM
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5. something is wrong with the vote count–
I also rated it a 5, an hour ago!

Spread the word!!
http://www.911Truth.org/
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:48 PM
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14. maybe they don't rate Us Newswire releases (is it like a PR wire?)
I dunno--they're probably sabotaging it.
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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:21 PM
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7. I'm at the website--What am I rating up?
Please advise.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:44 PM
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13. rate the yahoo news story, here
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:06 PM
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4. RATE IT UP!
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:16 PM
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6. I tried to rate this story
I got a yahoo membership sign in. I am not a member. It also has the story as not rated. Yahoo members unite. Post this in the 9-11 forum and in GD. It is very important.

On another note, this is surprizing that Yahoo is even carrying this story. It will get legs provided it is not preempted by BIG news if you know what I mean.
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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:21 PM
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8. You answered my question
Thanks
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 08:45 PM
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25. Rated it up, but no rating is shown...Yahoo supressing this?
It said I was the first to rate this story!?!? WTF?

Then when you look at it afterwards, it shows no rating at all.
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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:27 PM
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9. Done
Still a 5 rating
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:31 PM
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10. please post this in the 9-11 forum.
I hope you aren't busy. I will give you a little bit and then I will post it giving you the credit.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:42 PM
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12. Oh THANK GOODNESS!!!
Spitzer will almost certainly take this case, I think he's been itching to! And there's no one better to tackle it!
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:50 PM
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15. and when he's US ATTORNEY GENERAL.. it will be even better.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 05:57 PM
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16. exactly. treat it like a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
i'd start with tricky dick cheney
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Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:19 PM
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17. this is good
hope it gets picked up !!!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:33 PM
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18. Thanks for posting this graphixtech


:hi:
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:46 PM
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19. It is an honor
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 07:15 PM by graphixtech
All patriots, please pass this news along and sign the petition!
http://www.justicefor911.org/

:hi:




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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 06:51 PM
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20. Well they went to a Lawyer who will do something
Alleluia !!!!!!!
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flying_blind Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 07:36 PM
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22. 9/11 - Bush's greatest Success

How did Bush manage to make the worst security failure in U.S. history his greatest success?

0 – Number of meetings held by Vice President Cheney’s counterterrorism task force (which was created in May 2001).
0 – References to Al Qaeda in Dr. Rice’s 2000 Foreign Affairs article listing Bush’s top foreign affairs priorities.
0 – References to Al Qaeda in Secretary Rumsfeld’s 2001 memo outlining national security priorities.
0 – References to terrorism is Justice Department's top seven goals for 2001
0 – Number of National Security Council meetings held by Bush administration before invasion of Iraq was discussed (i.e., it was discussed at the very first meeting)
1 – Number of times the Bush administration mentioned al Qaeda prior to 9/11. This was in a notice continuing an executive order issued by President Clinton.
1 – Number of hours President Bush and Vice President Cheney agreed to allow in their joint meeting with the 9/11 panel.
2 – Number of National Security Council meetings on terrorism prior to 9/11 (out of approximately 100).
2 – Weeks into administration when Energy Task Force announced.
2 – Number of public statements by the Bush administration mentioning Usama bin Ladin prior to 9/11 (excluding press briefings and press questions which would raise the total to 19).
4 – Minimum number of Al Qaeda millennium attacks thwarted by the Clinton administration (only plots to bomb Seattle, Los Angeles, Brooklyn and Jordan have been specifically identified).
4 – Number of hours Bush spent with Bob Woodward as part of his book, “Bush at War.”
4 – Months into Bush administration when aid to the Taliban was restored.
4 – Months into administration when Energy Task Force report was released.
6 – Months that it would take for Vice President Cheney to respond to draft counterterrorism and homeland security legislation sent to him on July 20, 2001 by Senators Feinstein and Kyle, as stated by his top aid.
6 – Months before 9/11 that Paul Bremer -former Iraq administrator and former chairman of the National Commission on Terrorism -claimed that the Bush administration was “paying no attention” to terrorism. “Bremer stated that the Bush administration would “stagger along until there’s a major incident and then suddenly say, ‘Oh my God, shouldn’t we be organized to deal with this.’”
8 – Months the administration sat on an “urgent” request from its counterterrorism chief (Clarke) to meet about al Qaeda.
9 – Percentage cut sought by Bush in FY2005 budget for Nunn-Lugar program to secure Soviet nuclear material and prevent them from getting into the hands of terrorists, while pushing for billions in spending to deploy an unproven missile defense system.
10 – Number of meetings of Cheney’s Energy Task force prior to 9/11.
12 – Number in thousands of US troops in Afghanistan Winter 2004 (compared to 150,000 in Iraq).
36 – Months passed without any meeting of the Cheney terrorism task force since its formation in May 2001.
58 – Number of days President Bush spent in Kennebunkport or at his Crawford ranch from January 21 to September 10, 2001.
101– Number of public statements by the Bush administration on his missile defense (aka Star Wars) program from January 21 to September 10, 2001.
104 – Number of public statements by the President Bush on Saddam Hussein from January 21 to September 10, 2001.
150 – Number in thousands of US troops in Iraq Winter 2004.
700 – Millions of dollars Bush administration diverted from war against Al Qaeda to prepare for Iraq war.
800 – Millions of dollars Congress sought to shift from missile defense to counter-terrorism programs prior to 9/11, but Bush threatened to veto any such measure.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 07:52 PM
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23. They are not going away!
Truth will out. 40 victim families! 100 signatures of well known people including Howard Zinn.

It cheers me to know some that have suffered so much have not given up.

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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 07:56 PM
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24. Outstanding.... this is great.... JUSTICE!
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:13 PM
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27. kick
a big kick for this and the black box cover up.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:20 PM
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28. OMG!!!!!...............Spitzer has got to take this on at full force!!!!!
JUSTICE is the only thing that the victims desire!!!!

NOT MONEY!!!!
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Peanut Gallery Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 10:54 PM
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30. Kicking
The Bush administration stands on 9/11 as if it is some great presidential legacy or triumph.

Families of the victims deserve a lot more than political shenanigans.
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flying_blind Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 12:39 AM
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31. WTC Black Boxes found after all?
9/11 "black box" cover-up at Ground Zero? -- a Campaign Extra!/PDN exclusive

This is a longer version of a story appearing in the 10/28 Philadelphia Daily News.

Two men who worked extensively in the wreckage of the World Trade Center claim they helped federal agents find three of the four “black boxes” from the jetliners that struck the towers on 9/11 - contradicting the official account.

Both the independent 9/11 Commission and federal authorities continue to insist that none of the four devices - a cockpit voice recorder (CVR) and flight data recorder (FDR) from the two planes - were ever found in the wreckage.

But New York City firefighter Nicholas DeMasi has written in a recent book -- self-published by several Ground Zero workers -- that he escorted federal agents on an all-terrain vehicle in October 2001 and helped them locate three of the four.

His account is supported by a volunteer, Mike Bellone, whose efforts at Ground Zero have been chronicled in the New York Times and elsewhere. Bellone said assisted DeMasi and the agents and that saw a device that resembling a “black box” in the back of the firefighter’s ATV.

Their story raises the question of whether there was a some type of cover-up at Ground Zero. Federal aviation officials - blaming the massive devastation - have said the World Trade Center attacks seem to be the only major jetliner crashes in which the critical devices were never located.

A footnote to the 9/11 Commission Report issued this summer flatly states: “The CVRs and FDRs from American 11 and United 175” - the two planes that hit the Trade Center - “were not found.”

And officials for the FBI - which oversaw the cleanup at Ground Zero - and the New York City Fire Department repeated this week that the devices were never recovered.

The “black boxes” - actually orange - could have provided valuable new information about the worst terror attack to ever take place on American soil.

The cockpit voice recorder uses two microphones to capture the sounds of the cockpit for the last 30 minutes of a doomed flight on a tape loop. In the case of the hijacked 9/11 jetliners, the devices should have captured any conversations or actions involving the hijackers, as well as radio transmissions.

The flight data recorder records things like airspeed, heading, and altitude. Both devices - located in the tail of the airplane - emit loud “pings” so they can be located even in ocean jetliner crashes, like the 1996 explosion of TWA Flight 800 off Long Island.

They are built to survive an impact of enormous force - 3400 Gs - and a fire of 1100 degrees Celsius for one hour, somewhat higher than official estimates of the World Trade Center blaze.

“It's extremely rare that we don't get the recorders back. I can't recall another domestic case in which we did not recover the recorders,” Ted Lopatkiewicz, spokesman for the National Transportation Safety Board, told CBS News in 2002. However, officials said little of the jets was recovered.

DeMasi was with now defunct Engine Company 261 in 2001. He wrote up his recollections of the Ground Zero recovery in a glossy book self-published by a group that calls itself Trauma Recovery Assistance for Children, or the TRAC Team. The book was published in 2003 but received little notice.

(There's more on the book and how people can get it at this site.)
DeMasi, an all-terrain vehicles hobbyist - said he donated 4 ATVs to the clean-up and became known as “the ATV Guy.”

“At one point, I was asked to take Federal Agents around the site to search for the black boxes from the planes,” he wrote. “We were getting ready to go out. My ATV was parked at the top of the stairs at the Brooks Brothers entrance area. We loaded up about a million dollars worth of equipment and strapped it into the ATV...”

“There were a total of four black boxes. We found three.”

Efforts over several days to locate and interview DeMasi, who is now said to be with the FDNY’s Marine Unit, were not successful.

But his account was verified by another member of the so-called TRAC Team, recovery site volunteer Bellone. He recalled FBI agents arriving for the search one day in early October, setting up their equipment near Brooks Brothers. He said he didn’t go out with them on the ATV but observed their search.

At one point, Bellone said he observed the team with a box that appeared charred but was redish-orange with two white stripes. Pictures of the flight recorders on the NTSB and other Web sites show devices that are orange, with two white stripes.

“There was the one that I saw, and two others were recovered in different locations - but I wasn’t there for the other two,” Bellone said. He said the FBI agents left with the boxes.

If the account by DeMasi and Bellone is true, it’s not clear what motive federal authorities would have for claiming they weren’t found.

By the same token, however, it’s not clear what incentive either man would have to lie.

An FBI spokesman in New York, Jim Margolin, said after checking with the leader of the Ground Zero investigation that none of the boxes were recovered.

Frank Gribbon, the FDNY spokesman, also said “no one in the Department is aware of the recovery of any of the airline "black boxes" at the WTC site.”

Bellone has encounted some unrelated problems in connection with the TRAC group, however. In April, the New York Post reported (story not available online) that TRAC owned money to a number of creditors, including the company that published the book. Fire officials also told Bellone, who was made an honorary firefighter by a New York engine company, that he couldn’t wear an official uniform on school visits.
http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extra/archives/001139.html
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 01:07 AM
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32. Eliot Spitzer HAS TO BE our new Atty. General if Kerry is elected.
And, furthermore, Spitzer has to be the one to bring in other attorneys and justices to fill the justice dept. in order to undo the mafia ring that has been running this country, and which is trying to run the world. THEY are the real terrorists, and it has to be stopped.

Kerry could make no better move than to appoint Spitzer as atty. general, and send john ashcroft packing. Hopefully, Spitzer could get enough attorneys going on all the black box voting corruption, 9/11 corruption, and election fraud that has been perpetrated by the bush/cheney mafia.

The time has come for our country to bring this cabal to its knees, and make sure this never happens again. RICO doesn't even begin to cover all the corruption in this bush administration.

:kick::kick::kick:
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:23 AM
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33. kick for a real criminal investigation, this time!
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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:40 AM
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35. How many in the Republican Party
are just waiting to jump ship on this administration?

It feels like the bombshells keep coming but no outrage by the zombie followers. But when this bombshell starts to get mainstream attention (not those of us who have been studying this for three + years) the Repuke will have to start the lynch mob on all involved or there won't be a party left.
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