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Amused2Death Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:01 PM
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US Marshal Charged With Murder
http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=25&sid=318622

turns out he really did shoot the poor guy in the back:

ROCKVILLE, Md. - The off-duty deputy U.S. Marshal involved in the shooting death of a motorist last week on Rockville Pike has been charged with murder.
Detectives arrested Arthur Lloyd, 53, Tuesday morning at his home in Montgomery County.

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artboy Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:05 PM
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1. Good....Hot Dyamn
Asshole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ZR2 Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 05:41 PM
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9. Curious, do you call him an asshole
because he shot the guy in the back, or just because he was a federal marshal ?
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:40 AM
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16. both
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:05 PM
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2. this person has absolutely no business
carrying a weapon, much less being in "law enforcement".

The events started last Thursday night at a Rockville shopping center, when investigators say Lloyd and the victim pulled into after a traffic dispute. According to police, Lloyd shot Ryan Stowers in the leg.

Stowers called 911 on his cell phone, got back in his Camero and was trying to leave when Lloyd allegedly fired several more times, hitting Stowers in the back, killing him.


:grr:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:06 PM
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3. Give an infant a badge, Give an infant a gun
This is what you get an infant charged with murder. I can't wait to hear all about his "MENTAL DEFECT".
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:08 PM
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4. did he have a history of this??
maybe it could have been prevented...or did something happen to him mentally as he got older, and he just lost it??
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:42 PM
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5. Haven't heard anything to that effect
But who knows?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:50 PM
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6. Law enforcement officers should not be allowed to carry firearms.
:evilgrin:
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 05:36 PM
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8. On duty or off?
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USSA Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:37 AM
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15. lol
Actually, there's a town in Alaska that does dis-allow LE oficers to carry firearms.

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ProgressiveDave Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 04:51 PM
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7. where do U.S.Marshals go to serve hard time?
will he be in protective custody, or will the other inmates get to make him the belle of the ball?
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ace2u_in_MD Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 05:47 PM
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10. It is about time...
If the shooter had not been a member of LE, he would have been arrested at the scene...

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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 05:52 PM
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11. Here's the original story
From the Washington Post this past Saturday:

Road Rage Victim Was Shot From Behind

U.S. Deputy Argued With Driver Before Rockville Killing

By Fredrick Kunkle and Elizabeth Williamson

Washington Post Staff Writers

Saturday, October 30, 2004; Page A01

An off-duty deputy U.S. marshal embroiled in an apparent road rage confrontation along Rockville Pike on Thursday night fired repeatedly into the rear window of his adversary's car, killing the man as he sat behind the wheel, according to police and witnesses.

Numerous witnesses to the death of Ryan T. Stowers, 20, at the Mid-Pike Plaza in Rockville shortly before 8:30 p.m. were being interviewed by Montgomery County police yesterday. Authorities said no decision had been made on whether charges would be filed against Arthur L. Lloyd, 53, a 28-year veteran of the U.S. Marshals Service assigned to U.S. District Court in Washington.

"The rear window was shattered out," said Capt. John Fitzgerald, a police spokesman, who said investigators had begun to talk with at least 40 witnesses. "With that many witnesses, there ought to be a very clear picture of what went down."

Although Fitzgerald said Stowers may have driven toward the federal agent in the plaza parking lot, three people who said they witnessed the shooting told The Washington Post that Lloyd was standing with his gun drawn and opened fire after Stowers drove past him.

David Sacks, a spokesman for the U.S. Marshals Service, said the federal agency will decide Monday whether Lloyd, who was not at work yesterday, would be placed on leave during the investigation by Montgomery police.

"We will wait with everyone else for the facts of the case to become known," Sacks said. "Regarding what happened, we cannot comment until the investigation is complete."

Lloyd could not be located to comment.

Stowers, of Redding, Calif., enlisted in the Navy and had moved to the area on Navy business. A Navy spokesman yesterday would not provide any information about him.

The confrontation began in the thick evening traffic on Rockville Pike, a four-lane artery known for its routine congestion, and played out in the large, well-lighted Mid-Pike Plaza parking lot, about six miles north of the District line.

The following account of the incident was drawn from preliminary police reports, law enforcement sources and interviews with witnesses.

The altercation was sparked by a traffic incident on Rockville Pike and continued after Stowers and Lloyd turned into the shopping center lot. It is unclear whether the vehicles collided or the two drivers merely had a traffic argument.

Stowers pulled his red Chevrolet Camaro into the lot, not far from the A.C. Moore craft store, behind the dark-colored sport-utility vehicle that Lloyd was driving, with his wife and several children as passengers.

A shouting match turned into a fistfight, and Lloyd suffered a broken thumb, according to one source familiar with the investigation who declined to be identified because the investigation is not complete.

Cindy Nachman-Senders of Potomac said she heard shouting in the crowded parking lot as she strapped her 5-year-old son into his booster seat. She turned to see two men in a confrontation beside their stopped vehicles.

She said Stowers got into his car and was on his cell phone. She said Lloyd started yelling: "Give me the cell phone! I'm going to call 911!"

A witness who said he was driving in the opposite direction in his Toyota Corolla at that point said he saw a man who was wearing street clothes holding a semiautomatic handgun and a badge standing by the Camaro's right front fender. The driver's window was down, he said.

"I noticed that the officer was standing in front of the Camaro, pointing his gun and saying, 'Get out of the car, or I'm going to shoot you!' He was yelling it very loudly," said the Toyota driver. He spoke on the condition that his name not be used because he was afraid of getting in trouble with the police. He said the man with the gun "just kept yelling. He was saying, 'You just hit a federal officer. Watch what's going to happen to you in the morning if you leave.' "

Stowers refused to get out of the car, the Toyota driver said. "The young man in the car was yelling: 'I need a picture ID. Show me a picture ID. I don't believe you,' " he said.

Another person who said she witnessed the incident, Eugenia Hull of Silver Spring, also said she heard Lloyd order Stowers to "get out of the car." She said Lloyd responded to the request for additional identification by saying, "That's all the ID you're going to get."

Witnesses agree that Stowers attempted to drive away, although there is not agreement on whether he moved in reverse or tried to swerve around Lloyd.

Fitzgerald, the police spokesman, said preliminary interviews indicated that Stowers "drove away in the direction of the deputy marshal . . . but we'll accept any fact pattern that changes this." He said investigators "would have to determine where was and how far away from the car he was" when the shots were fired.

As Nachman-Senders saw it, Stowers reversed the Camaro, gunned the engine and then went around the SUV, not at it. "He was trying to leave the scene, not hit the officer," she said.

Hull described Stowers as trying to "move around" Lloyd when she heard the shots.

The Toyota driver said he had just eased his own car by the confrontation when the Camaro backed up and then lurched forward. He said he was about eight feet away when he heard the first of three shots, and he said that Lloyd fired into the Camaro from the rear.

"He shot the back of the car," the driver said. "He shot the guy in the back, pretty much."

Nachman-Senders said she turned back to Lloyd, who stood with the gun at his side. Then she heard a loud crash. She turned toward the noise and saw that the Camaro had hit a wall.

"I'm just in shock and disbelief. I can't believe there's a kid who was here one minute and then not the next," she said. "I can't believe that an argument could escalate this way so quickly. . . . How responsible was it for him to shoot like that in the middle of a busy parking lot?"
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:36 AM
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14. Per DU copyright rules
Please limit quotations to four paragraphs and a link to the original source.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:55 AM
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17. 3rd innocent 20 year old to be killed by nazi cops in 3 weeks
If you add Mathew Sheridan, 20 yr old in Milwaukee who was suffocated to death by the police, 2 weeks ago, during an arrest for a crime it turned out he didn't have anything to do with, and if you also include the young woman killed last week outside the Boston Red Sox game, (by the Boston police), who was only guilty of post game exuberance, the nazi thugs in uniform are killing innocent youngsters at a rate of one a week. And thats at home, never mind the war! This bushit has got to stop.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:52 PM
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12. This is a death penalty case
Lets fry this cop mother fucker just like they do to the blacks in Texas
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olddem43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 12:01 AM
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13. I agree, there's no excuse for a law enforcement officer to use
his power and authority to settle a personal dispute by killing someone. They should make an example of him.
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