Delta details 6,900 job cuts

http://www.theage.com.au/news/Business/Delta-details-6900-job-cutss/2004/11/06/1099547424608.html?oneclick=true

Delta Air Lines has released new details on the up to 6,900 jobs it plans to eliminate starting on January 1.

The third-largest US airline will cut between 1,500 to 1,800 administrative employees; 1,600 to 2,000 technical operations employees and 2,900 to 3,100 customer service employees, according to spokesman Anthony Black.

The cuts will begin Jan. 1 and will be carried out over an 18-month period. Employees in Dallas and Atlanta will be the most affected by the cuts, Black said.

The details were announced internally to employees earlier this week. The airline is asking employees to voluntarily retire or accept severance packages. Other employees may lose their jobs, Black said.

In September, company CEO Gerald Grinstein announced a plan that included cuts of up to 6,900 jobs in an attempt to turn around the airline's financial troubles.

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so sad

...on all the fat people they carry.

See how that works?

If they said something like "It costs more to carry Gay people because of all the leather clothes and 'latex novelties' they pack in their luggage.." people would be at the gates with torches and pitchforks. But FAT people? "Oh, hell, I don't like those disgusting sweaty fucks who can't pass a McDonald's without ordering the whole menu, either...."

I feel bad for the employees. I work with a former Delta flight attendent. However, it looks like Delta got it's money's worth.

"(PFEA) As permitted un PFEA, Delta has made a special election that reduces the amount of contrbutions that are required to be made for the 2004 plan year to the Delta Retirement Plan. .... A decision regarding the 2005 plan will be made at a lter date."

This must have been passed under the radar I didn't hear about it until I recieved the letter from Delta yesterday.

The letter contains no web link for Delta but does have this one http://www.pbgc.gov

So we have layoffs, downsizing, and pension cuts...lovely

My CEO at the time, Dave Siegel, earned over $10 million in 2003 (from Washington Post's "Highest Payed DC area executives"). United has filed to terminate its pensions. The PBGC was solvent (by $5-6 billion) on the day President Clinton left office. It is now billions of dollars in the red under the Bu$h regime.

Mandate? Mandate my ass.

Do you still work for US Airways? What is going to happen to it? And what do you think the Bush Regime will do to the Railway Labor Act?

I am, mercifully, on long-term disability for a non-lethal medical conditions. So I actually get my paycheck from an insurance company.

I think the Bu$h regime will pass an Airline Labor Act very early in 2005. It will be totally pro-management, and will probably prohibit self-help (strikes) by airline labor groups. There will be nothing in a Bu$h Airline Labor Act that protects the rights and interests of airline labor. In fact, it might be an Airline Labor Act that allows cabotage in the USA. Cabotage is - basically - the flying of US domestic routes by foreign air carriers. US airlines are currently protected from cabotage by a set of agreements known as the Bermuda Accords (1 & 2).

They will probably end up having to load and clean the airplanes, too, if they still have jobs at all. ALPA endorsed Kerry, but an awful lot of the pilots I know are raving Bushazoids. I wonder if they'll ever make the connection between their votes and their jobs, or will they just blame the airline's management -- while they continue to praise Bush and Jeezus and applaud the sacking of Iraq?

but you knew that. :cry:

Fucked. Yes.

seems to me all the Co's were told to wait until after the elections...November so far has been a very bad month.

but can work one up later - am going to be out for a while - but have all of this in a file - sometimes I am just to depressed to work the spreadsheets :(

And to the second part of your post - were these layoff notices held until after the election?

I believe that is what they were doing - they didn't want to wake up the sheep too early - they had them in the shute - now for the slaughter.

2005 will be a dreadful year for the American worker.

If you want a comparable timeline, go here:

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Timeline.htm

I'll checkout the website. Hope you have fun while you're out. :hug:

Here are the layoff figures since "election" day - 2004

Total notices that numbers have been given -

37,113

There are several places that have announced layoffs, but have given no figures, so that number could be much larger.

If you want a copy of my spreadsheet, just pm me and I will send it to you.

out right now.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Coup.htm

THE BUSINESS PLOT TO OVERTHROW ROOSEVELT

In the summer of 1933, shortly after Roosevelt's "First 100 Days," America's richest businessmen were in a panic. It was clear that Roosevelt intended to conduct a massive redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor. Roosevelt had to be stopped at all costs.

The answer was a military coup. It was to be secretly financed and organized by leading officers of the Morgan and Du Pont empires. This included some of America's richest and most famous names of the time:

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"You know the American people will swallow that. We have got the newspapers. We will start a campaign that the President's health is failing. Everyone can tell that by looking at him, and the dumb American people will fall for it in a second…"
The businessmen also promised that money was no object: Clark told Butler that he would spend half his $60 million fortune to save the other half.

And what type of government would replace Roosevelt's New Deal? MacGuire was perfectly candid to Paul French, a reporter friend of General Butler's:
"We need a fascist government in this country… to save the nation from the communists who want to tear it down and wreck all that we have built in America. The only men who have the patriotism to do it are the soldiers, and Smedley Butler is the ideal leader. He could organize a million men overnight."
Indeed, it turns out that MacGuire travelled to Italy to study Mussolini's fascist state, and came away mightily impressed. He wrote glowing reports back to his boss, Robert Clark, suggesting that they implement the same thing.

If this sounds too fantastic to believe, we should remember that by 1933, the crimes of fascism were still mostly in the future, and its dangers were largely unknown, even to its supporters. But in the early days, many businessmen openly admired Mussolini because he had used a strong hand to deal with labor unions, put out social unrest, and get the economy working again, if only at the point of a gun. Americans today would be appalled to learn of the many famous millionaires back then who initially admired Hitler and Mussolini: Henry Ford, John D. Rockefeller, John and Allen Dulles (who, besides being millionaires, would later become Eisenhower's Secretary of State and CIA Director, respectively), and, of course, everyone on the above list. They disavowed Hitler and Mussolini only after their atrocities grew to indefensible levels.

at the time as well at Cold Spring Harbor Labrotories in New York. These "scientific theories" were of great interest to the German Nazis. http://www.eugenicsarchive.org/eugenics/

The announced about a month ago they were closing the Dallas maintenance hub, and increasing the one in Atlanta, but that will NOT mean all the employees in Dallas will have an opportunity in Atlanta. The other major hit is admin. My son has worked for Delta in Atlanta for 14 years. Delta, like many other large older companies, has created a lot of layers of management that could be eliminated without affecting operations, safety, or customer service.

I hate to see ANYONE loose their job, but I sure have seen many business in the past that simply got a little too fat, and had to face the same type of cuts.

Companies need people that actually produce things, be that literally, or in satisfied customers. They don't need that many people who only push values around on paper. That's why companies like Enron goes bust in the end.

But with all the huge lay off numbers, you sometimes wonder if there's anyone left, you know?

unemployment insurance and welfare programs. It would be sooo much better if you could just go beggin' to your local churches and see first hand what moral authority is really like. You need rent money and food, why just pull yourself up by your bootstaps, suck it up wimps and girlie men..Jesus hates poor people.I am sure that is in the Jesusland bible someplace.

Can't feel sorry for them. After all, they're red states. Ha. Ha. That's my mantra from now on.

By bumper sticker is going to read "PROUD TO BE FROM A BLUE STATE".

p.s. Anyone know where I can get one???

For DUers in red states, this is a collective kick in the groin.

Remember that? Right after 9/11 when all of the airlines got a huge check from the govt? Are we going to get that back?

I believe Delta's hub is located at the Greater Cincinnati Airport (which is actually located in Northern KY). Feast on your "moral values", folks! Maybe you can trade in your "700 Club Limited Edition" Bible for a mortgage payment.

the Jesus of the red states resembles the Jesus of the New Testament in the same way as Shrub resembles a real cowboy or a real fighter pilot or a real compassionate human being-to me the false prophets that Jesus warned about are loose in the red states and that is scary :scared:

The reference to comes from a cartoon that was floating around showing the Blue states as part of Canada and the Red states as "Jesusland." But of course the Jesus of the Bushazoid fundamentalists isn't the same one I remember from Sunday School. I like mine better.

Dark days ahead and I did think they would be over by now

Nothing more.

Airliners are the MOST inefficient means of transportation. And with peak oil grinning evilly at us it will just get worse.

Return to regulation could stave off the innevitable death of the industry, but that would result in the end of low fares and return to the model of the 50s and 60s when business could afford to fly but there was little vacation and other discretionary travel. That of course will result in a deep retraction of the industry. The end will probably be a restructured industry in which smaller, high tech aircraft fly business fliers on a semi charter basis. Kind of a glorified air taxi service.

Maybe then someone will get the bright idea to build high speed rail and we'll join the rest of the world.

but it won't get you to Europe or Asia. Though, come to think of it, Bush has made us so hated around the world that we don't dare travel overseas anymore, and nobody from there is going to want very much to come here, either. So maybe all we'll need is trains to get back and forth between the Bible camps and the re-education centers.

The industry will not be restructured, but the unprofitable airlines will. AirTran and Southwest are doing fine and making plenty of money, even with the higher fuel prices. Delta's problems lie within. Too much overhead. I read a brief article in Fall of 2003 quoting the Airtran CEO. He basically stated the obvious -- Airtran would kick Delta's but in head to head competition all day long because Delta was too fat. What is unfortunate is that Gristein will get blamed for the cuts when Drummond (sp?) Delta's previous CEO had the opportunity to do something long ago, but he just hung on until his options became available, not having the testosterone level to make the tough decisions.

I'm not bitter

-eom-

So be it.

Perhaps this is not what America wants.

...but they intend to make it up on volume.

Chow down, y'all!

The same kind of ill-will they wished on us when they painted an even larger bullseye on the people of our great cities.

but from here on in, I'll do it sparingly if not at all. Let's show these Bush lovers what the power of the people really means. Hit 'em in the pocketbook where it really hurts.

Delta donates a lot to the Republicans, but some others ( for example, United, Northwest) give more to Dems than to Repubs. Don't stop traveling -- a lot of jobs depend on the travel and transportation industries. Just pick airlines that aren't overwhelmingly Bushite.

I almost always fly Northworst (a little Detroit humor there).

He used to be CEO of the company I work for. I had no idea he was at Delta. Interesting...we experienced many cuts (railroad) while he was there. The airline industry is just about being forced to change the business model....I think a lot of businesses will.

My son works for Delta, and he has heard that Grinstein was a real hatchet man at his former company. I realize that sometimes the CEO has to do things he would rather not do, but I would like to know if you feel he wa fair in what he did?

I remember a long time ago when Lee Iocca took over Chrysler. He was very open about what he had to do, and said how much he hated it, but he was very fair in what he did and how he did it. He even refused a salary for the first year or two, taking a pay of $1.00. He said if he did his job and the company made money again, then he would accept a salary. Gee, where are all the guys like that now????