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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:01 PM
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Race Against Time to Prevent Nuclear Terror - IAEA
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Race Against Time to Prevent Nuclear Terror - IAEA
Mon Nov 8, 2004 02:36 AM ET



SYDNEY (Reuters) - The world faces a "race against time" to prevent nuclear terror, the United Nation's nuclear watchdog chief said on Monday, citing an extensive illicit market in nuclear and radioactive materials after the Sept. 11 attacks.
More than 24 companies or individuals were engaged in the sale of nuclear materials and more than 60 incidents of trafficking in nuclear or other radioactive material are expected this year, said Mohamed ElBaradei, who heads the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)

"The threat of nuclear terrorism is real and current," he told reporters at a Sydney conference on nuclear proliferation and terror.

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Big fear is stolen radioctive material!!! Doh!!! Didn't that happen in Iraq and I love how Canada is protecting their Nuclear Plants and I wonder what Bush is doing to protect ours???
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:14 PM
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1. They are out of time.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 09:14 PM by bemildred
New strategy required.
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banana republican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:16 PM
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2. Nukes in the city n/t
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:30 PM
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3. Christmas at Ground Zero
There's music in the air.
The sleigh bells are ringin' and the carolers are singin'
As the air raid sirens blare.

Etc.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:42 PM
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6. "All uranium back in the ground" - the global slogan
except for small amounts for medical treatment, and physics research.

ALL URANIUM BACK IN THE GROUND

Consider an unmentioned hazard.. uranium miners... was it not 90 % get lung cancer, in the US mines?

Consider Pakistani miners.

doesnt it all leak radon , however it is being used?

Underground again is the only safe place for it.
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anakie Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:38 PM
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4. they could disarm America first
while this idiot is in charge of the trigger. Tactical nuclear bombs. Right.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:40 PM
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5. The Bu$h Regime is
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 09:40 PM by burrowowl
not helping: outing Plame, not funding the Russians to keep their stuff under control, wanting to use tactical nukes, aging reactors in the U$, etc.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:45 PM
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8. "nuclear power = nuclear bombs"
another good slogan.

how often i have read of peaceful power stations siphoning off material for bombs in the third world.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:43 PM
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13. *&co plan a major political attack on the IAEA soon. eom
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:43 PM
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7. not to be a downer, but I think that the cause is lost
We can protect ourselves from terror, or we can wage wars of aggression, but I'm convinced that we cannot do both at the same time, since the second campaign works against the first.

I feel kind of panicky every time I read something like this, because I imagine parts of the country ending up a radioactive wasteland, but there's probably nothing anyone here can do at this point.


:cry:
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:47 PM
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9. I'm lucky
There's a lab about 20 miles from my house which just went to biolevel 4. That means it's a good target and I probably won't have to survive.

It's something when you title a post like this "I'm Lucky" ain't it?
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:22 PM
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11. You live in ABQ
with small research reactor on Kirkland Airbase WITH NOOOOO containment building. Not to mention the nuke warheads in the Manzanos and ucky waste on unstable arroyo banks?
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:30 PM
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12. what lab is that?
you sure it is a BL4?
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:48 PM
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10. moved to another forum
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 09:50 PM by oscar111
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:47 PM
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14. Bush couldn't stop 9/11...
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 10:48 PM by berni_mccoy
And didn't want to anyway... it's been the best thing that's happened to him. All he needs now to turn America into a dictatorship (under the guise of Marshal law of course) is a nuke going of in a major city.

Remember, this guy has said, during PUBLIC OFFICE, at least FIVE TIMES, that things would be much easier if he was the dictator of a country instead of a president.

Time to get the hell out of here.
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OutsourceBush Donating Member (860 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:53 PM
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15. Why would anyone want to nuke us? We just elected cuddly little Bush
everyone loves him. I just can't understand why those mean terrorists want to do us harm. /dumb_ass_american_off
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:03 PM
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16. IMHO, too late
With * back in office, the number of potential disaster scenarios are only increased. If I were Iran, or India, or China, I'd have my nukes warmed up and ready.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:06 PM
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17. How hipocritical
So "nuclear terror" is defined as non-white people having nukes.
How racist and one sided.

Perhaps nuclear terror is having a fleet of warships, with nuclear
bombs in their holds, sitting off the coast of nations far around
the world, threatening war.. no?

Perhaps nuclear terror is preemptive war and mass murdering of people
who never attacked the aggressor, threatening the use of nuclear
arms.

I'm sure Iran has already shifted its uranium holdings around the
country beyond the limited range of sites the US has in mind, in
preparation for nuclear retaliation when the yankee hubris fails
to destroy iranian nuclear capability.

Nuclear terror is a terrible crime, and that "we" condone it, leaves
us open to any and all preemptive and retroactive retribution, as
indeed nuclear terrorism shouldn't be tolerated by anyone.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:00 AM
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18. By the IAEA?
No. Nuclear terror is defined as terrorists getting nuclear material for a bomb. Period.

Nuclear proliferation is a different problem, also addressed by the UN. That would be about any country having nuclear weapons, including the US.

Bush is idiotic on both issues.

I have to wonder how many votes we lost telling mainstream folks that Bush is a bigger terrorist than bin laden. We can't keep doing that stupid shit and expect to win an election. It requires disciplined thinking to explain the issues clearly.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:08 AM
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19. Then bush fits the bill
More people are terrorized by bush than "the insurgents".

I realize what you're on about, image and all... but the election's
over so heck.

Back when the british were trying to repress uprisings in their
"kenya" colony, they used the same words "insurgents" "terrorists"
to describe the people fighting their imperial army and its
heavy handed repression tactics.... this imperialism is no
different, nor are the labels.

Just in fact, more people are under threat with a war criminal using
and threatening the use of nuclear arms by illegal aggressive war.

Yes bush is a bigger mass murderer than bin laden.. fact... and
in my view, it does indeed make him a more dangerous terrorist.
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