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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 02:23 PM
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Battle for Fallujah May Take Several Days ( and how long to hold it?)
WASHINGTON - There could be several more days of intense fighting in the U.S.-led battle to retake Iraq (news - web sites)'s rebel-controlled city of Fallujah, the commander of land forces said on the second day of the assault.



Army Lt. Gen. Thomas F. Metz refused Tuesday to say how many American troops have been killed in the operation, saying only that casualties can be counted "in a dozen" and not specifying whether that included the wounded.


Metz said troops have captured a very small number of rebel fighters but had "imposed significant casualties against the enemy." Again, he didn't give a number.


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Although capturing or killing the senior insurgent leadership is a goal of the operation, Metz said he believed the most wanted man in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, had escaped the city

more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=736&e=3&u=/ap/20041109/ap_on_re_mi_ea/us_iraq
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 02:35 PM
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1. But I thought CNN said there was light resistance?
Gosh...could they be reporting something that isn't accurate?

:eyes:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 02:36 PM
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2. yet, AP reporting 16 troops killed
Sixteen Americans were reported killed over the past two days across Iraq — including three killed in Fallujah combat on Tuesday, two killed by mortars near the northern city of Mosul and 11 others who died Monday, most of them as guerrillas launched a wave of attacks in Baghdad and southwest of Fallujah.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=736&e=2&u=/ap/20041109/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_developments
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 02:43 PM
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3. Is it just me, or does all of this seem futile?
The US military pretends that social progress is being made here, when in fact all they are doing is reclaiming real estate that they are bound to lose as soon as they leave the city. Count al-Zarqawi as another Bogey man that all the king's horses and all the kings men can't bring to "justice".

Unless the marines plan on occupying the entire city forever, they will have to do this again in a few weeks or months.
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malachi Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 02:59 PM
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6. Sounds like...... VIET NAM!
How many times did our military geniuses use this tactic in VN? Samo old shit, different war.
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KingChicken Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:01 PM
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7. I agree, sammara is already falling by the wayside, it's all bad
The military simply can't maintain enough forces around the country to hold these cities safely. Eventually they have to break off their forces to peruse the enemy elsewhere, and them more rebels pop up driving U.S. forces back repeatedly. OBL and the Afghanis were successful in driving the Soviet Union from Afghanistan, the same strategy is in play here, we lose either way, loss of life or financial exhaustion. In the end the Iraqis will pay with their dead, and the Americans will be broke.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:48 AM
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10. Yar, it sounds like that to me also. What is the point of all this?
It makes me think of Nixon and didn't he say he was not going to be the first President not to win or some such thing.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 02:57 PM
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4. the most wanted man in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, had escaped
There's a surprise.
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fwiff Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 02:59 PM
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5. The enemy? How can they tell?
I would like to know how many people lived there.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:44 AM
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9. Sort of like Napoleon taking Moscow
People gone and what left dead and building bombed to the ground. Great win Bush.Napoleon would not hear his people when they said bad move either. I think it took a few months for him to see he had nothing. The Russia he wanted was gone.We seem to be fighting smoke.
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