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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:20 PM
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U.S., Iraqi troops move into Fallujah's center (CNN - 10 US Troops Killed)
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 03:22 PM by VolcanoJen
With the two soldiers killed today in Mosul, does this make 12 soldiers killed today, or is it even higher?

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/09/iraq.main/index.html

Excerpt:

Pentagon: 10 U.S. troops killed, 22 wounded

Tuesday, November 9, 2004 Posted: 3:03 PM EST (2003 GMT)

FALLUJA, Iraq (CNN) -- U.S. and Iraqi troops reached the heart of Falluja on Tuesday as the second day of battles continued in the militant-controlled city west of Baghdad.

The Pentagon reported 10 U.S. troops were killed in the fighting and 22 wounded.

Nevertheless, U.S. and Iraqi forces have faced less resistance than expected, said Lt. Col. Pete Newell with Task Force 2-2 of the 1st Infantry Division.

Soldiers have dodged sniper fire and destroyed booby traps, but not as many as anticipated.

Insurgent casualty numbers have mounted. Newell said his Army unit has killed or wounded 85 to 90 insurgents.

"Thirty hours into the fighting, Task Force 2-2 and the attached Iraqi intervention force have sustained minimal casualties," Newell said.

Military sources said they were unsure whether they had intercepted the core of the insurgency.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:25 PM
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1. I saw the article at the same moment you did
Damn, ten dead. And that's just the first day and what they're admitting to. And heaven help the poor residents of Fallujah.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:30 PM
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2. CBS is reporting 16 Dead last 2 days - Damn!
Major combat operations are over my ass. Bet the plastic turkey doesn't fly AF1 in to Baghdad this Thanksgiving.

A total of 16 Americans have been killed in the past two days across Iraq — including three killed in Fallujah combat on Tuesday, two killed by mortars near the northern city of Mosul and 11 others who died Monday, most of them as guerrillas launched a wave of attacks in Baghdad and southwest of Fallujah.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/24/iraq/main541815.shtml
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:32 PM
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3. So does CNN's article mean 10 soldiers killed since fighting began...
... in Fallujah? As in, 10 soldiers killed in two days of fighting?

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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:33 PM
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5. I took it to mean today
But I could be wrong.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:37 PM
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6. I take it as 11 killed as Monday in Iraq with an additional 10 in Fallujah
WASHINGTON - American casualties in Iraq (news - web sites) are mounting as the U.S.-led offensive in Fallujah unfolds. Monday's death toll of 11 was among the highest for a single day in Iraq since last spring, though most were killed elsewhere in the country.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041109/ap_on_re_mi_ea/us_iraq_casualties&cid=540&ncid=1480

and 16 is the number reported as around Iraq?? I think...I'll look for the link.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:41 PM
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7. 16 killed in the past 2 days
Sixteen Americans were reported killed over the past two days across Iraq — including three killed in Fallujah combat on Tuesday, two killed by mortars near the northern city of Mosul and 11 others who died Monday, most of them as guerrillas launched a wave of attacks in Baghdad and southwest of Fallujah.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=736&e=10&u=/ap/20041109/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_developments
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:32 PM
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4. U.S. Death Toll Rising in Iraq - AP
~snip~

There was no firm official death toll covering the period since the Fallujah fighting began on Sunday, but on Monday there were at least 11 U.S. deaths across the country, including two in Fallujah. The day's loss was among the highest for a single day in Iraq since last spring when the insurgency escalated and American authorities pulled Marines out of Fallujah.

~snip~

Casualty reports, particularly in a combat zone like Fallujah, sometimes are slow and imprecise because of the chaotic conditions. Metz said casualty counts were in flux and could be higher than the estimated one dozen he knew of by late Tuesday.


The death toll for Iraqi soldiers with the Americans has been higher, as it has been through much of the war.


Dan Goure, a military analyst at the Lexington Institute think tank, said Iraqis present an easier target for the insurgents, and he expects them to continue to bear the brunt of the violence.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041109/ap_on_re_mi_ea/us_iraq_casualties&cid=540&ncid=1480

Wonder if slick dick is still counting the Iraqi's in the body count?? :eyes:
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:44 PM
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8. 10 U.S., 2 Iraqi Troops Dead in Falluja - Military
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:23 PM
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9. another link

A brief statement said that as of 6:30 p.m. Tuesday local time, the 10 Americans and two Iraqis had been killed "in Operation Al Fajr."


"Due to operational security in order to prevent the anti-Iraqi forces and other terrorist elements from gaining useful battlefield intelligence, there could be delays in announcements of battlefield casualties," the statement said.


The statement gave no details of where and how the troops had been killed and whether some of them may have been among the 11 U.S. deaths reported by the Pentagon (news - web sites) earlier in the day.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=736&e=1&u=/ap/20041109/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_fallujah_casualties
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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:44 PM
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10. Looks like Zarqawi has already skipped town
along with a lot of other leaders of the insurgency. Amazingly, Fallujah does not seem to have been fully blockaded until Sunday. If these reports are accurate then the taking of the town is unlikely to settle anything. The resistance will just start up again from somewhere new.

http://www.sierratimes.com/rss/newswire.php?article=/afp/20041109/pl_afp/iraq_fallujah_us&time=1100029232&feed=iraq

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:54 PM
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11. That's why fighting insurgencies is the biggest pain in the ass
known to mankind. They melt away, only to come back when we lose interest, time and/or resources.

We never counted on this, of course. Flowers and chocolates, anyone?
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:54 PM
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12. how many have been killed is confusing
the headline on www.antiwar.com reads 23 dead and is linked to an MSNBC article. The casualty count on the site reads 1145 but www.icasualties.org/oif is 1137.

Whatever it is, it is all very sad.
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wanpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:51 PM
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13. sadly, this will become the norm...
many bushies will consider this the cost of fighting terra, that is, until it hits home. Don't know how long that will take. This is tragic.:cry:
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:11 PM
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14. Well This Is What The Dumbass Pepugs Voted For
I wonder how many of them actually have kids or other family members over there? If there kids aren't there now they will be before long when there holier than god dumbass gets the draft reinstated to cover his so called miscalculation that wasn't going to cost that much and our men and women would be greeted with candy and flowers. YEAH RIGHT! I hope all these sorry assholes that voted for Bush rot in hell! Christian values my ass! They wouldn't know values if they hit right square in the ass!
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radar Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:28 PM
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15. Now, are they going to keep it?
Whatever goes in to that hell has to be re-supplied....

Today In Iraq blog gives nice updates http://dailywarnews.blogspot.com/

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