Women Say Kerry Should Have Wooed Them

Leaders of several women's groups said Tuesday that Democrat John Kerry fell short in his bid for the White House because he didn't make a more direct appeal for support from women voters.

They noted 2000 Democratic nominee Al Gore got 11 percent more support from women voters than George W. Bush did. Kerry's advantage over Bush among women was less -- 51-48 in national exit polls.

Democratic pollster Celinda Lake said the candidate's support eroded from 2000 levels among white women, working women and married women.

"There was an assumption women would be behind the Kerry campaign," said Kim Gandy, president of the National Organization for Women.

http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-kerry-women,0,5681352.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines

this stinks. if his intelligence isn't enough then you need therapy.

they are sure scraping the bottom of the barrel!

Oh, Jesus, someone get this woman some fucking ears.

..."services".

it's that there is NOTHING BETWEEN the ears that's the problem....

I'm not very strong. I'll start with the instep and then pull their hair.

GOD, THIS PISSES ME OFF!

Hope one of them can tell me how great we'll be under more Bush.

I know I shouldn't be, but the fact is I am. I know I shouldn't expect more from women than men - both can be incredibly stupid.
My belief is they wanted to vote for the winner and then make these stupid excuses to cover up their stupid mistake.

I don't think the women quoted were acting stupid, as you put it. They were merely pointing out what they felt could have been done better by Kerry's campaign. I tend to agree with them, I felt he really dropped the ball on reproductive rights out of an apparant fear of the Christian right.

Obviously, no candidate is going to appeal to every group. But for us to have lost so much ground with women in unthinkable for me. Young women are the key target demographic. That was my focus during the campaign and I was pretty successful in educating them about the issues that would affect them most and convincing them to vote (when most of them weren't going to bother).

The fact that most of them weren't even aware of any threat to their reproductive rights tells me that we've got a long way to go before 2008.

"if you don't lick our asses, we'll huff and we'll puff and we won't elect you and then boy will WE be screwed...hey, wait a minute.."

Nice attitude you have there. :eyes:

i wanted to have him for president.

Geez! And the chimp....ah, nevermind! :argh:

was behind Kerry.

Why should Kerry 'woo' anybody? If one cannot look around and see that Bush is wrong for America on their own, no amount of this wooing will do any good.

There's only so much Kerry could have done, some people aren't worth wasting your time on.

I mean, it's very, very obvious that the GOP hasn't been very woman friendly to being with (ENDA anyone) and with the fundie base they've worked so hard to attract - RvW tossed away, women kept at home barefoot and pregnant.

It was obvious to any self-respecting intelligent woman that Bush was not the way to go, even if Kerry hadn't, for example, been married to a real strong woman instead of a stepford wife, hadn't worked for these women's families, hadn't worked to make sure these women weren' forced to support and care for their parents when they are too old to work and SS is destroyed!

...that's THEIR fault, not Kerry's.

Sounds like whining or disinformation...or both.

what an outdated concept.

I AM AN INTELLIGENT WOMAN AND I don't need no stinkin' wooing!

Nowhere in the story itself is the term "woo" used. Consider how ridiculous such a headline would appear if exactly the same comments were made about male voters, who voted even less for Kerry if the (maligned) exit polls from which this 'fact' is derived are to be believed.

What a bunch of whiners!

Kerry ain't no gyno-colo-gyst....Gee whizzers.

I guess Kerry's wife (and Elizabeth Edwards) didn't present a stark contrast with the other side either.

Bottom line: married moms fell for Bush the Protector, and the more affluent among them wanted to keep their tax cut as well.

NOW has to come to terms with reality.

The implication is that they already knew he was the best candidate, but... they weren't impressed with his effort? Is this some kind of weird "hard-to-get" theory of politics?

Watch a debate. Look at their wives and daughters. That'll tell you everything you need.
Geez.

If they wanted a "daddy," tell them to grow up.

Besides, I always saw John Edwards as the sex-symbol.

:loveya:

I can't believe the Feminist Majority and NOW is dissing Kerry! C'mon, Womyn!! This is the time for the left to stick together, not turn on one another!

Any woman with 1/4 brain would instinctually pick Kerry over *, the man who wants to ban reproductive freedom, who supports automtic assault weapons in the homes and on the streets, wants to privatize social security, and keep the minimum wage to a minimum for working mothers. :eyes:

They seem to be working harder at coming up with excuses for Bush winning than WE are!

:headbang:
rocknation

In the face of the obvious voter fraud, I wonder what other bullshit excuses will rear their empty heads???

First it was MORALS, now it's WOOING WOMEN....good Lord, if they keep going down the list, eventually it will be those rolled up sweatsocks in that flight suit that put the weecowboy over the top....

I have a daughter and that reason alone was enough to vote for Kerry, nevermind all the other stuff.

I am at this moment, embarrased to be a woman...

Sorry guys...

for me I have intelligence enough to know who is on my side without them having to 'woo' me but the fact is that some people do seem to need to be 'wooed'. The Democrats lose the Southern vote and the rural vote, and now the women's vote is slidding away, Democratic principles are great but there seems to be some disconnect where these people just arent getting 'it'. Our candidates from now on have got to find a way to connect with these people and make them feel important to them.

and want problems solved for them. They don't care how.

you do need much skill do that.

so well. The RNC must be a breeding ground for liars.

It's something candidates do locally when they attend state fairs and knock on doors. It's how they tell people face to face that they'll be there for them.
Bush pulled something similar off cosmetically when he convinced rural voters and working poor that he would address their needs because he speaks their language.
Kerry wasn't able to connect because people don't believe a person whose language they don't understand would understand them.
As far as women go, the Democrats made a push to get women to vote for Kerry, but Kerry never specifically engaged women in the campaign based on their issues. 76% on the dollar, etc. The women for whom that is the starkest reality may not be familiar with statistics, and may not come across "no brainers" in politics.
The same goes for men who are poor. They were invisible to Kerry's campaign, but recognized by Bush through his language. This stuff matters.
Kerry also seemed to be terrified of the abortion issue and never touched on the facts. The fact that the abortion rate has increased and any changes in teen pregnancy rates since the implementation of abstinance only sex ed are numbers he should have used. Those are things that are meaningful to women.

I believe that you hit the spike on the big end. I've posted in other threads that Kerry just could not connect with the masses.

I believe that Kerry is a reflection of what has happened to the party. Our leadership has become a part of the power elite. They no longer feel any connection to those who work for a living, so they are in effect a part of the left wing of the republican party. Has Kerry worked for the rent a day in his life? If he never worried about putting food on his family's table, how does he expect to identify with those who do, and they with him?

Now matter what the pundits may say, the problem with the party today is that leadership has lost the empathy to the grass roots. I think we will not be a majority party again until we rebuild from the ground up with the principles that we stood for before the moneyed elite took over.

For example, I think Clinton got it, in terms of "wooing" people. However I admit that some people just have that ability and it's something that can't be manufactured.

I think that people should just do their best to vote intelligently and not get so hung up on "feelings".

for the best person for the job. You don't wait in the wings to see who "woos" you the best.

Grow up, ladies. Take your vote seriously.

Kerry does not need to WOO. Obviously, they weren't paying attention if they missed all his campaign talk about healthcare, minimum wage (a lot of min. wage female workers), security, pro choice, the war in Iraq, etc., etc. All these things directly affect women.

Fact is...they voted for who they wanted to vote for. They're trying to put the blame somewhere else, now. But it rests on their shoulders alone.

keep women barefoot and pregnant. KERRY isn't trying to start 4 MORE WARS where women will be drafted along with the men. KERRY isn't trying to oppress women.

WTF do these "woo me" bitches WANT????

Well too late. They got bush. ENJOY.

What a Stupid story! OMG I can't believe I'm reading that crap in 2004! 'Wooed' what a joke! Wonder what women's groups these were, "Local Woo Society for Stupid Women"

Rememer how he was brought on board Team Bush 41 as a lil' something for the ladies?

Any woman who did not vote for JFK gets exactly what they deserve -- four more years of Bushco and all the crap that goes along with it. Ditto for any men who did not vote for JFK.

When they start to dismantle every peripheral issue that matters to women...well, hope they at least get a mint on their pillows.

America failed themselves and now they can all enjoy the fruits of their failure. Abortion and birth control pills aren't going to affect me one iota but maybe those ladies will be more inclined to come back to The Democratic party when they see all of Margaret Sanger's work undone. In 1873 the Comstock act prevented even literature pertaining to birth control from being sent in the mail. By 1914, 22 states had enacted similar statewide legislation preventing any form of BC related information from being disseminated legally. By 1940, Sanger had finally convinced all but two states, Massachusetts and Connecticut, to allow BC information to be freely distributed, thanks in large part, to help from Eleanor Roosevelt. By the time Sanger died in 1966, the BCP had FDA approval. Here we go again, round and round.
This whole movement is based on the musings of Patrick J. Buchanan BTW, who has raised quite a stink among conservatives about America's declining birth rate and the increasing birth rates of Muslim/Arab countries. They're afraid we're being "out-birthed" IOW. Just wait until they have to pay for all of those unwanted babies though. So much for Christian morality. The good thing about it is that a proportionally larger number of those unwanted kids can be expected to vote Democrat when they come of age so this legislation will hurt the Republicans eventually.

I'd read once in Harper's that some Christian group had estimated that some six million Democrats (yes, they really did say Democrats) had been aborted since Roe v. Wade.

Nice, huh?

By overturning Roe V. Wade, the Republicans will lose one of their primary reasons for existence. With the assault weapon ban repealed, they have already lost one issue that pulls Americans away from the Democratic party. I'm crossing my fingers that no Democrats start talking about that issue between now and ever. Anyways, If the Republicans are not careful, people will have no reasons left to vote for them. Taxes and hatred will be their platform I guess but, we can only borrow money, cut taxes, and increase spending for so long. You know they'll blame the Democrats for raising taxes to pay the bills that they've incured too, as if we can simply not pay off the bonds.

They'll overreach if they do touch RvW, and burn up in the atmosphere.

Hopefully their damage can be undone afterwords. It feels like they're reaching for a really really big win here. The agenda they're pursuing has a real sense of permanence about it and I fear that within another four years, no Democrat will be able to undo what has been done. They're working serious mojo in Washington.

... I think Bush** is playing the same game Reagan played so well.

He makes promise after promise to the fundy base, but he has no intention of actually delivering.

To do so would be to neutralize his best issue.

He'll string them along, and string them along. They'll never learn.

Does that mean 36 million aborted Republicans? hah!

Which further supports my belief that the neo-cons don't want to overturn Roe V. Wade. Had it never been passed, they would be contending with an extra 36 million Democrats. They prefer it when poor people kill themselves off. I think of all of the rich little whores that got knocked up by the poor kid in high school or better yet, the black kid lol, and got forced to have an abortion and I think to myself, "I would really enjoy seeing their parents forced to deal with the consequences of their little whore's actions. It would almost be worth overturning it just to see some shit like that happening."

:puke:

Then they'll realized that Bush was screwing them!

They know where Bush stands on abortion, childcare, education, taxes, and social security. If they didn't vote for Kerry, let them revel in their barefoot preganantness.

in large numbers. There is no helping those who are willfully ignorant. I agree, let them roll around in the pig-slop of their stupidity.

Professor 2

I watched most of this news conference on C-SPAN this afternoon. These women never even implied that Kerry didn't "woo" them. Only that he failed to address their issues directly which is true and about which they have a perfect right to complain.

... the electoral college, instead of babbling to pollsters about how Kerry didn't act interested enough.

What do these groups quoted in the article want?

I'm a woman and I don't NEED any pretentious 'woooing'. Women are not children - we don't need to be bribed with candy and 'wooing' by politicians.

What a load of CRAP.

NOT do it justice.

Got sued, impeached, etc.?

As a feminist, I am so tired of voters, especially women's groups, wanting to be wooed.

To them, I say, get a life. Read up on the issues, and like everyone else, make your decision. And to heck with the 'you must woo us' crap.

when he told us that ob-gyn's could no longer practice their love on their patients across the country. It is not Kerry's fault - it is all those attorneys.

the comments from people supposedly representing women are and embarrassment. they sound like idiots. they do not represent me.

and I'm a woman--

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I'm tired of the Democrats beating ourselves up over the lose on Nove. 2nd. Everyone is coming up with these inane explanations. The truth is that the election was stolen.

I went to a rally in blood-red Springfield, MO and all of the old ladies around me loved what they heard and kept saying "he's got a great message and he's easy on the eyes" 'look at those blue eyes..they sparkle so mucn' etc.

Kerry wasn't applying to be the husband for millions of women. (Damn was he suppose to take all us women to dinner) He was applying to be commander in chief.

Back in 2001, I read a article/report that said most women vote for a candidate based on his looks. As a female, I was appalled. How could anyone think that some blond, blue-eyed, man with a nice smile and a fit body be able to sway my thoughts against someone who had more knowledge, experience and intelligence then him.

Well, unfortunately I found this article to be true in one case, when I got into a discussion with a lady at the nail shop, who said she voted for Bush* because he looked nice (her sole reason for voting for him). However, she said that she was a little disturbed by his lips. As the years past, I often think about that lady and I say to myself, "I wonder if she finally realized that she was disturbed by his lips, is because nothing but lies come out when he parts them." I also wonder if she voted for him for a second term. Damn, that's a stupid thought though. I live in Houston, TX (Bush country), of course she probably voted for him again.

if people can't do the research on their own for candidates then they don't deserve to vote. this isn't a bash on women, just a bash in general. * and kerry have long records to look at so there's just no excuse imo.:mad:

Asians, Cubans, Mexican's, Jews, Catholics, Christians, Transvestites, and a host of other groups

What a bunch of BS. I guess staying in the abusive relationship they have with the shrub is a good thing.

According to all of them, the dems don't love: lesbians enough, christians enough, Texans enough, paranoid-schizophrenics enough, dumb-ass middle-American types w/ IQs <70; who beat their wives enough, RW radio-talk show hosts enough, etc..... Oh yeah, and "several womens groups". Join the effin club.

Evey dumbshit group seems to be coming out of the woodwork telling the dems that if only they had given them everything they ever asked for, the dems would now be in power. I find you all extremely whiney and annoying! Go Cheney yourselves, preferably in Canada.

Gyre

way I would ever have voted for him after such an insult. (Hey, I was Independent and moving toward Democratic Party affiliation.) If these women are so stupid they need to be "wooed", then they deserve DimSon.

women have a brain

Kerry never ONCE sent me flowers.:mad:

There goes any possibility of me donating to NOW or Feminist Majority.

What an embarrassment to my gender.

She would have been stoned by her own if this was 1976 or so.

Come to think of it, she should be stoned in this day and age as well.

NOW needs a new leader, not a mouthpiece or an "Aunt".

Ladies, you KNOW what I mean by an "Aunt"

to get their vote, something is terribly wrong with this party, albeit country. Although the substance of the article doesn't suggest this, the title certainly does.

I'm not looking to fuck the president. I am looking for him to lead this country out of the shit-hole it's in.

Just ridiculous.

Stolen election, stolen election,stolen electionstolen electionstolen electionstolen electionstolen electionstolen electionstolen electionstolen electionstolen electionstolen electionstolen electionstolen election.

The best plan the Repubelickin's ever came up with was to stand back and let the Dems gently knock each other out.

The Rs know that the Democratic Party is thoughtful and introspective.
and they know that when they, the Rs, steal elections, the Dems will try to figure out what they did wrong. 2000, 2002, 2004. When did you EVER hear Bush or Republicans say when they've made mistakes?

A little less thinking and a little more reactivity is in order here.
Take it from someone raised in the steel-mill heartland of the midwest who never went to college, "Stop being so smart!"

Roe v. Wade overturned in 3 years.

John Kerry didn't spend enough time making me feel valued as a person and hiring me and my friends for cushy-ass consulting positions.

are able to figure it out for themselves. Sounds like some people are just being intellectually lazy.

Geez, as a woman, I find those criticsms ludicrous! Wooed? It's an election for pete's sake! Educate yourself on the choices and vote! :grr:

When a> they can't get access to the pill and b> they aren't allowed to have an abortion to stop the pregnancy that happened from not being able to get the pill....or when they go to the mailbox and get their kids' draft notice in the mail.

Joe, the resident galoot, explains that HIS idea of "wooing" a woman is to follow her around, exclaiming "Woo! Woo!" (Somehow I can imagine that kind of thing coming from George W. -- but really!)


Are they expecting this to turn into some kind of moronic reality TV show -- "Who Wants to Marry a Presidential Candidate"?


p.s. all those times when one wondered how an otherwise-intelligent, competent woman could have married a loser (or worse, someone who hits her) and spend years covering up for him -- because it makes her feel so good being able to look after and protect the guy -- maybe we're looking at this kind of behavior.

Why in the fuck do I want to be wooed by some aging chimp? Give me a break. I want someone competent to run the country and represent the nation.

If women are saying this--what would they want a woman candidate for POTUS to do to get their vote, their laundry?

People never cease to amaze me.

I thought I was in the Free Republic forum.

Get real. Women voters are the majority of the Dem party. If Dems can't appeal to them on the issues they think are important, you might as well give up.

1) this is bullshit. They are making excuses.

2) If an intelligent woman can't look at the positions of the candidates and figure out who is on their side, they shouldn't complain about it after the fact. Kerry's positions and those of the Democratic Party are very pro-woman. The chimp and his party are very, very anti-woman.

If Kerry didn't come out and say: "Hey, women! Pay attention! I am pro-choice and advocate equal pay and fair treatment. This is for you!", they should be smart enough to figure out that it is what it means.

This is total bullshit! Kerry's pro-choice, pro-living wage jobs platform couldn't have appealed more to women. It was Dumbyass' agenda of fear that freaked out rethuglican women and won their vote.

but I would have phrased it differently. Kerry did not really place women's issues front and center. There was no real discussion about how women would obtain equal pay and promotion. There was no real discussion about mandating pharmacists to fill birth control prescriptions. There was no real discussion about the Supreme Court composition and Roe v Wade.

All groups are supposed to come together and help get out the message. If women didn't get the message of the Supreme Court, blame the damned women's groups. I didn't need a secret coded message to know it was critical. No talk about Roe v. Wade? I thought that's what brought the Talibornagains out to vote, abortion & gays. Was it or wasn't it an issue.

Worked our fucking asses off to help get out the message. We could have used a little more help from the candidate and his campaign. Just because you didn't need to be told it was critical, doesn't mean that other didn't as well. You can't hold contempt for the people you want to convince, it's a sure way to lose.

We reminded the campaign constantly that women were key to their success, but unfortunately, I think they just assumed that women would automatically vote Democratic like always and concentrated their efforts elsewhere. We fucked up, big time. In my opinion, of course.

Wooed? How Victorian? Are they having the vapors now? Palpitations? The Perils of Pauline--all women are strapped to the railroad ties now and there is a locomotive bearing down on us. Perhaps these women should start looking past the next pair of new shoes, designer SUVs, spa visit, or cocktail party to the world around them. When these fundamentalists are done with their agenda, we will have not only lost control of our bodies but access to the world of work and the vote as well.

This story idea trivializes and demeans females. We aren't that weak and shiftless.

Apparently they weren't speaking with females who can read and form opinions on their own.

NOthing else would have both satisfied the American lusts and put Karl Rove in a box of his own making. If there's no effort, there cannot be a victory, and Kerry didn't make the effort. Even though Bush was obviously incompetent and immoral, Kerry never called the American attention to it.

Campaign on either his record (LOL) or on his policies. It was all smoke and mirrors, hard for Kerry to punch. That said (Monday morning quarterbacking here--well not really cause I said this to Kerry campaign--but who am I--why listen to one among millions--many of whom have advice)I did tell them to push Bush to the logical endpoints of his and his party's positions. See my thread about Coburn and a ban on birth control pills in the Oklahoma forum.

Most women said terrorism was the number one issue, and that bush would keep them safer. This is baloney, not factually based, but all those terror warnings, which women take very seriously (especially mothers), followed by nothing happening, convinced them at a basic level that bush was keeping them safe.

It's called Stockholm synndrom, and it's what happened to Elizabeth Smart, who was found wandering around WITH her kidnapper in Utah.

He scared her, then nothing happened, repeatedly, and eventually, she came to see him as her protector, her "daddy", and she did whatever he said.

And I'm the "Electronic Princess" according to my husband,i.e., a real down to earth gal. I BEG for electronic gadgets instead of jewelry for presents. WORD. <blush and curtsy>

Get yer prissy butt back to Fantasy Land. :P

Because all you do is BREAK MY HEART!

Seriously. Does the gay lobby ever get 'wooed'? No. But we vote Democratic anyway because we're smart enough to know that the Republicans enjoy chasing us with torches and pitchforks a lot more than the Democrats do. Straight women in this country are smart enough to figure out that they don't want the Christian right in power any more than we do. Or they should be.

@#$!,

The Plaid Adder

They play so many games with everyone near them, that they don't even know when they are defeating themselves.

and they need to be "wooed"? WTF?!? It's 2004 for God sakes! Wake up people! God forbid they actually do a little research on their own and fucking think for themselves.

For the record, I'm a 38 year old woman. I don't need a politician to woo me. I think for myself, I research and I actually listen. It's not hard to do. Argh!!!! (beating head against the wall)

When I read drivel like this, I begin to lose hope.

men/women, white/black, religious/agnostic.

Can't you see that is playing right into the Karl Roves of the Republican party.

I mean no disrespect, but I've found that "all women's groups" don't get a damn thing done because of the need to reach consensus. I wish I had a nickel for each time "the girls" were in the process of adding up the bill - I just threw a $20 bill in for my tab and went home. There must be a happy medium ... other women are so thoughtful that they freak me out sometimes.

And men? well we all know that the old, fat, bloated, and powerful representatives sent young men to fight and die for their greed for more $ and power.

No, we must stop dividing ourselves in factions.

Here's a first suggested talking point: use the term "radical right wing fanatics" EVERY time you refer to republicans. Equate that term to drive home the fact that we're being conned.

Remember - Republicans are the masters of divide and conquer.

It takes intelligent and dedicated people to set aside petty differences and unite for a cause: Stop the republicans from destroying the Democratic Party as we know it.

I'm not the one saying I needed to be wooed. They are the ones calling themselves the Feminist Majority, not me. These women that say they needed to be wooed are WEAK! It's the same stupid mentality that men show when they vote for the chimp because he seems like someone you could drink a frigging beer with. What the hell kind of reason is that? I don't want to sleep with the president and I don't want to have a beer with him. I want a president that can FIX our country and get us out of the quagmire we are in right now. And when Chimpy starts the draft back up, these pathetic women that needed to be wooed can send their children over there because mine aren't going! Let them live with the decisions they make because they didn't feel like Kerry "wooed" them enough. I have no respect for people like that...none.

please listen to a tape of this if you can--you'll come away with a completely different impression than this dopey article leaves

I'm sick of all the "let's play nicey-nice" shit that women put forth still after all the years we've been trying to get beyond that shit. I'm 55 - been a self-proclaimed feminist since I was 17 - and I still get disgusted with the women of my generation and their acting like little girls. I AM NOT A LITTLE GIRL AND I REFUSE TO ACT LIKE ONE!

I've got to go to work or I'd rant a little longer.

Sometimes I have to scratch my head in wonder, "Why did I burn my training bra for young women who allow themselves to be ornaments."

But that's another discussion folks. <blush>

Group Hug My Ass!!! ROTFL

LOL! I love it! I need a bumpersticker with that.

The public couldn't think any worse of us thanks to propaganda artists like Rush, O'reilly and Hannity.

Gee, these next four years may be hopeful for the Democratic party if only we can get Howard Dean in the leadership and smartly drop-kick McCullif <sp?> back to fund raising where his true talents are.

Fire up the base! - you got it. <eg>

some older ones are about as clueless as they were 35 years ago. Actually, the young women give me hope sometimes. Last night at work there were a couple of women older than 45 all standing around ooohhing and aaahhinnng over some Xmas table runners acting like they were going to have an orgasm or something.

not the Feminist Majority.

It is just done to justify the vote, which was fraudulent. Now it's because women didn't vote, NOT because their votes weren't counted.

This is about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Why should politicians have to appeal to the lowest, dumbest, most archaic beliefs in order to be elected? It's frustrating!

up her butt. Bush is a DISASTER for things women (sterotypically) care about: health care, national security, protecting our innocent children in Iraq, the budget, abortion rights.

signed,
a woman voter.

WASHINGTON - Women seeking abortions in Mississippi must first sign a form indicating they've been told abortion can increase their risk of breast cancer. They aren't told that scientific reviews have concluded there is no such risk.

Similar information suggesting a cancer link is given to women considering abortion in Texas, Louisiana and Kansas, and legislation to require such notification has been introduced in 14 other states.

very interesting. The speakers offered diverse ideas and observations (such as, why didn't the media talking much more about what new Bush appointees might do to Roe v. Wade BEFORE the election?). For that matter, why wasn't this panel convened and listened to before the election?

It was well worth listening to.

become a dirty word? THAT is what kept Kerry from talking more about access to reproductive health care and what that meant to women. So to all of you complaining about this article, I hope you are willing to go public with LTTE, calling into talk shows and in general conversation with anybody DEFEND feminism. Of course, we do our thinking independently and of course we don't have to be wooed. But we must INSIST on feminism being taken seriously and not hide or downplay our feminism because the right is so sarcastic about feminists. ENOUGH!!

Democrats and (when applicable) Independents is NOT a good thing in the next four years.

I don't know if you noticed but we are in DIRE straights. If the republicans pick up more seats in Congress in 2006 we will be well on our way to a ONE PARTY GOVERNMENT = Republican and Republican Lite.

We must wrench back OUR Democratic Party from the *pansy asses* who are presently holding the reigns.

Back to the point: We must NOT allow any wedge issue to divide us because the future of our representative government depends on us working together.

Rush Limbaugh and Grover Norquist, that's how. Along with Liberal, activist judges, taxes (in all forms), and environmentalist (tree hugger)...just to name a few

Now they're moving toward the broad base umbrella term Democrat to bring forth repulsive visions for all things not of their liking.

However, I submit that the "Jewish People" to the "Nazis" during WWII ... is being skillfully replaced by Republican Operatives, Think Tank Experts and Right Wing Politicians ... "Liberal + Democrats" to the "Right Wing Power Elite" (vast majority of them are Republicans) in our present atmosphere.

Bottom Line: We need A VOICE in the corporate media and must hit hard with stating "radical right wing" at every damn opportunity to stop the backlash.

...and now they're f****d.

Be careful what you wish for.

(Sorry; didn't mean for this to sound as sexist as does the story.)

BUT COME ON!

"There was an assumption women would be behind the Kerry campaign." Exactly right. There was an assumption women would not support a chauvenistic war-monger. I guess everyone was wrong about that one. :grr:

Ok John Kerry had an entire initiative based to appeal to what is a largely female occupation---Nurses. (My apologies to any male nurses out there, But it is still heavily Female, I know I am one.) Now with that in mind, I converted several people I work with based on the Initiative it's self. I have a few male friends that are Nurses, most of them voted Kerry... One is hetero, but an Athiest, the other is Gay. One of our supervisors voted **, but other than, most of us voted Kerry. 8 out of 10 of us are Female. That is at one facility I go to. So, how they fell he didn't woo women is beyond me. I want to know how ** did so? I think of him and automatically think "Gun rack in a Volvo" and "He looks like a friggin Chimp." I don't know.... Just my 2 cents.

I guess the possibility of having their sons and daughters killed in endless war wasn't enough. Well, just shows you what I know.

using their brains and looking at the issues.

children of * supporters. After all, he got your vote, he ought to get your kids too.

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!! WOULDJA? I absolutely HATE when other women whine about not being treated the same as men, and then SCREAM that they're not being "wooed", courted, or whatever. God.. women are pathetic (I'm a woman, and I'm embarrassed for women)

How can they say Kerry didn't appeal to them???

who supported bush because kerry didnt "woo" them. they are stupid.