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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:59 PM
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Teacher finds anti-Bush stickers get tires slashed
Political tempers are running hot even after the election. On Saturday, Gary Jimenez discovered two tires slashed on his Volvo station wagon with its four anti-Bush bumper stickers. Lest he miss the point, the vandals left a note on the windshield that said: "We voted . . . Now you can either move to another country (maybe France, Germany, Iran or Pakistan will take you) or stop your whiney belly aching. This country was founded by righteous God-fearing men of integrity like George W. Bush. Now, take off these bumper stickers. We don't want to see them again."

Jimenez's immediate reaction was to add two more pro-Kerry stickers, including: "Let's Kerry Bush out of the White House."

Jimenez, a Clairemont High School teacher, had anticipated some reaction but was disappointed that it went so far.

"Free speech is an important value in America," he said. "I was trying to make people think. I wouldn't attack someone's car over their bumper stickers."

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20041109/news_1m9bell.html
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:04 PM
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1. when do we start hearing crystal breaking?
Ah, such fine Americans, cowardly and bellicose, trying to intimidate as they skulk about like skunks. Bring 'em on.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:08 PM
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7. Right After We All Have to Start Wearing Yellow Armbands...
...just like the ones the Nazis made Jewish people wear.


Source: http://history1900s.about.com/
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:03 PM
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25. Kristallnacht? Today is the anniversary in fact
seriously, Nov 9th---Kristallnacht AND later the same day the Wall fell in Berlin.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:05 PM
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2. The God-fearing are always willing to slash tires and
threaten people.

Somebody should slash their tires, and leave a note: "WWJD?"
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MeanAndGreen Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:40 PM
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31. I wonder if they are the same people that slashed the GOP Minivan tires?
It's possible I guess that it's a general tire slashing gang with no politics.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:34 AM
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60. the note they left suggests otherwise... unless it's a ruse
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juliagoolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:05 PM
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3. Righteous Dudes!
These are the moral ones .. !
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:07 PM
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4. Wow, that's, uh, brave, vandalizing an unoccupied vehicle.
Apparently God-fearing is a metaphor for CHICKENSHIT.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:07 PM
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5. Volvo Station wagon? Let's get him boys. Amerika the beautiful.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:08 PM
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6. So fuck your First Amendment!
God, these people are fucking ridiculous.

Bake
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:10 PM
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8. Best to use magnetic signs which can be taken off when you leave and put b
and put back when you get back to your car.

I thought of that. Permanent bumper stickers would invite
vandalism.

Of course, we could walk away from our cars and hang out with video cameras and get as many of these little nazi brownshirts arrested as
possible.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:20 PM
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28. I suppose.
But that feels like putting the first amendment inside a gated community, of some sort.
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Ruffhowse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:12 PM
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9. Christo-Fascist Brown Shirts have returned.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:22 PM
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13. What are brown shirts.?
I have heard this phase before-the Brownshirting of America but I do not undersatand it. I know that in WWII the German SS wore brown shirts but the connect is not there for me. Thanks in advance for any clarification
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OneMoreDemocrat Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:36 PM
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16. Your reasoning that 'brownshirts' refers to the SS is correct.
.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:14 PM
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21. That was the SA. n/t
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:10 PM
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35. The Brownshirts were the militant arm of the early Nazi Party.
Until they were supressed during the night of the long knives in 1934, they were a paramilitary organization that acted as the military forces of the NSDAP.

I always thought of them as the logical next step from the Freikorps, only instead of being dedicated to Ludendorf in street combat against the communists, the SA was dedicated to Hitler - untli they had outlived their usefulness.

They had to go if the Army was to support Hitler. Think of them as street toughs and brawlers wearing uniforms.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 09:14 AM
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59. I think they way the reference is being is about the tactics and intent
Brownshirts were supposed to turn in fellow germans who didn't "toe the line".
eventually, that escalated into them becoming fascist vigilantes.

at least, that's my understanding.

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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:12 PM
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10. These bigots will never change
and also, how many posts have shown up on DU espousing the idea that we should 'reach out' to our 'bubba brothers'. It just won't work.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:18 PM
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11. I will reach out to them, but not empty-handed
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:19 PM
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12. Hate to hear this stuff
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:23 PM
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14. The right to dissent......
is one opf the things our troops (so they say anyhow) are dying for.
So what the hell is the problem? Or as Shakespeare once said, 'methinks thou dost protest too much"
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buckettgirl Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:31 PM
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15. This country wasn't founded on Christianity
This government had nothing to do with christianity, at least not as we no it.
Here is a quote from Thomas Jefferson taken from the article on the home page "Redefining Values"
"I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature... Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make half the world fools and half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the world. "

This country was founded by deists! Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and George Washington were deists.
As defined by www.dictionary.com deism is:
"The belief, based solely on reason, in a God who created the universe and then abandoned it, assuming no control over life, exerting no influence on natural phenomena, and giving no supernatural revelation."

Go to this website to find out the History of Deism in America:
http://www.deism.com/DeistAmerica.htm
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:28 PM
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23. nice post!
Welcome to DU, buckettgirl!

:hi:
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Castilleja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:43 PM
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24. Thanks for that
I have never known what a deist was, and just never looked it up. Now I know!
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pookieblue Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:27 PM
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29. This country was founded by deists
I was just about to say the same thing!

Where do these people get off comparing * to our Founding Fathers. Sheez, they would make mince meat out of him.

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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:43 PM
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38. Fundies and other Republicans get history wrong all the time.
I was watching Jerry Falwell on Politically Incorrect one time and he said, "Hitler was a Catholic". Thankfully the rest of the guests jumped all over him. Generaly it shocks me at just how incorrect they are.I'd bet most Fundies don't have a clue what a Deist is or that this country waS FOUNDED BY THEM.
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Magic_Cookie Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:44 PM
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17. "men of integrity like George W. Bush"
Are those words allowed together in the same sentence?

integrity

\In*teg"ri*ty\, n. grit<'e>.
Moral soundness; honesty; freedom from corrupting influence or motive

NOPE, didn't think so
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:49 PM
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18. Slashing tires is like stealing
Don't these God fearing folk read their Bible?
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:58 PM
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19. My car was keyed several weeks ago, no doubt because of the
Kerry and Morrison stickers on the rear window. These people are really brave, keying a poor, defenseless automobile! The width of the yellow stripe down their backs is exceeded only by the width of the brown stripe in their shorts! Pinheads!

Appropriate smilies --> :dunce: :+ :silly: :freak: :crazy:
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:04 PM
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20. Wow, here in Minnesota the W stickers have disappeared
I drive past a private school every day on my way to work and the "Soccer Parent" gas guzzlers in front were littered with "W" and */Chenney sticker in the past weeks. This week, I haven't seen a one. Either the morons are more polite here or they know that they are in the minority in this state.....
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:12 PM
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36. We are still seeing them in Texas
and I am keeping my NO W sticker too. I still have a Re Defeat Bush sign in my front yard but I suppose I need to take it down.
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Liberal_Andy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:25 PM
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22. It doesn't say if he reported it to the police...
I think I would have.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:17 PM
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26. But Iran and Pakistan are Bush-backers! Brownshirts everywhere!
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:17 PM
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27. The Brownshirts are coming! The Brownshirts are coming!
Now that they've stolen the election, the righties are stumbling all over themselves to tell us to "shut up!" It's funny how little their USA resembles the USA envisioned by those so-called God-fearing forefathers of ours.
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The Minus World Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:57 AM
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52. Obediance vs. Free Will
Their precept of "rightness" requires cooperation and obediance to a leader, who is in turn controlled by divine law. Sadly, this idea is not rooted in reality, as it does not calculate for those who refuse to obey such a leader - especially if he is as unprincipled as George W. Bush. We see an unprincipled man, while they see a man fortified with firmness and unwavering strength - his followers cannot comprehend our unwillingness to follow their strong leader, therefore, we are classified as "weak." Maintaining such an illusion is fundamental to the right.

When these men assume entire control of all aspects of existence, do not be surprised if their detractors are among the first ones to suffer for their outspokenness.
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MeanAndGreen Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:37 PM
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30. Who slashed all those GOTV rented Minivan tires on election day?
I think they were GOP vehicles so it doesn't really count but who did it?
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:47 PM
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32. Um, the GOP? n/t
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MeanAndGreen Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:51 PM
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33. That's what I thought
The GOP is doing all the tire slashing to cover up the democrat tire slashings. It must be a Rove thing.
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prayin4rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:51 PM
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39. You must be a Rove thing.
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 09:51 PM by prayin4rain
Who let you on the internets anyway? :eyes:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:00 AM
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54. bwahahahahahahaha
sniff sniff
whata you want on your tombstone ? a pretzel?
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:47 AM
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55. Or it could be
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 04:55 AM by Piperay
freeper thing.

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DeadManInc Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:55 PM
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40. GOP
Greedy Opressive Pricks
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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:53 PM
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34. Someone carved a "W" into the hood of my car about three weeks
ago because of my Defend america defeat bush sticker.
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MeanAndGreen Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:47 AM
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56. I've see many of the DADB stickers from moveon modified to say...
Defend America ELECT Bush.

They painted over the "Defeat" and added "ELECT". That's pretty low to use moveon funds against them. Slimy Bush voters.
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:29 PM
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37. God Fearing? How about high school-teacher fearing wimps?
Oooh what a badass! Launching a sneak attack on a teacher's car when they're not there! BADASSSS!!!

These guys are always so tough when they know they won't have to face us. They are so tough when there are 3 of them in a pick-em-up truck shouting at a mother with a baby in the backseat and an anti-shithead bumper sticker on a freeway. They are so tough when nobody’s looking. They have balsawood spines and shit for brains.
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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:36 PM
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41. Adolf Hitler would be Proud
This same type of crap went on in the 1930's against those who did not support Adolf.

1 Week before the election, which is what, 2 weeks ago, some jerk off tried to start a physical fight with me while I stood on a corner with some 'Anti Bush' signs.

Actually got out of his car, came up to me, yelling, screaming, accusing me of being an idiot who 'watches to much CBS News', plus a few other things that you'd hear over at Fox News and Rush Limbo's big fat mouth.

So these guys mess up this persons car, I believe Randi Rhodes Husband's van was vandalized, and I am sure more and more people are being harrassed.

This is a reason why I continue to wear my 'John Kerry for President' button.
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Phantasia92 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:38 AM
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48. all you gotta do in that case....
is kick 'em in the nuts. OH WAIT.. sorry about that, repugs dont have those. if they did, they would be "gay".

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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:46 PM
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42. I hope my volvo station wagon and her anti-Bush stickers are safe!!
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:15 AM
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43. Trolling for a solution to Bush's Brownshirts? Here is one...
Trolling for a solution to Bush's Brownshirts? Here is one...

Arming the Left: Is the time now? --by Charles Southwell

http://www.legitgov.org/essay_southwell_arming_the_left_is_the_time_now_102203.html

Cheers,
Lori Price
http://www.legitgov.org/
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Phantasia92 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:44 AM
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50. WORD!
There is going to be a civil war in this country, and soon. you can smell it in the air. The winds of war are blowing....



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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 12:26 AM
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44. My bumperstickers were vadalized in lineral Boston on Nov. 3rd
at Logan airport. These fascists can't handle free speech.
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:10 AM
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45. Saturday+High School+At Least 18= Short Bus Riders
Didn't these morons get the memo that Pervez MushHead is our friend...Pakistan indeed!
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:22 AM
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46. That's it. Tomorrow I start keying Hummers and cars with B/C stickers.
And there'll be plenty, given my locale. Unfortunately, it means all the body shop owners who voted for * will get some business, but so be it.

There's a Hummer in my parking garage I've had my eye on for weeks now...

Bake
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Phantasia92 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:33 AM
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47. Better idea on that keying...
GO FOR IT, but it doesn't make an impact. Most people are too fuckin lazy to even wash their cars, much less notice a scratch. I found the best way is a simple one. Find a good nazi symbol on the net, the classic red background, white circle, black swastika, copy it, resize it to a nice size, then start runnin' off copies on adhesive paper. cut 'em out, and go taggin. slap that sticker right up next the the B/C decals or whatever other fascist propaganda they have going on ("POWER OF PRIDE", "THESE COLORS DONT RUN OR BURN", "N.R.A.", etc.) it looks great, tells it like it is, and again, half the time they dont notice anyways.

Fuck 'Em.

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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:38 AM
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49. I'm glad you posted this. I read it in the paper this morning and
it made me sick. Actually, it's depressed the living daylights out of me. Is this what America is going to become? Just love those 'KKKompasionate KKKristians.' I'm changing the spelling. It's about time it started to reflect what these people are all about.

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The Minus World Donating Member (634 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:47 AM
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51. Defiance.
The more tires they slash, the more stickers we place. Such is the determination of man desperate to be silenced no longer.
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justa Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:46 AM
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53. Its amazing the lengths they will go to in order to prevent thought.
The truth will come out as long as we keep trying.


"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." Albert Einstein
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 07:45 AM
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57. "Troops are dieing for your feedom of speech, so STFU!"
Life in the new Murka under Bushy's "Mandate".

Using the words "George Bush" and "Moral integrity" in the same sentence without the modifier "lack of" is really stupid.

I suggest Gary add a sticker that says "Feel a DRAFT, kid?"
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TryingToWarnYou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 07:46 AM
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58. Gosh, the point of this thread seems sooooo familar...
I TryingToWarnYou and Im not afraid.
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