Political Debate at Minn. School Gets Ugly

Three high school students, one allegedly armed with a bat, were charged with attacking a pro-President Bush classmate after he reportedly said only gays would support Sen. John Kerry.

"It's a good thing to see young people interested and excited about politics," said Dakota County Attorney James Backstrom. "It's obviously very disturbing to see this kind of violence over it."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041111/ap_on_re_us/brf_school_fight_election&cid=519&ncid=2043

Yes, excited about politics. Or would you call that homophobia and rage-based thinking?

this evil little creep pres. is DESTROYING our country.

Bush's orchestration of hatred after 9/11 is a toxin, spoiling hearts and minds from Minnesota to Falluja.

This, too, is fallout from the "everything changed" mythology. For the past three years a genie has been loosed, and society is cracking. We now are a people desperately in need of decent leaders.

see that we've evolved somewhat. It's the same mentality of when people called people the N word lovers. We've become so violent and intolerant, it's hard to live in this world.

It's not so much being called gay, but rather the bigotry and hatred behind calling someone gay.

Hey, I grew up in small-town Vermont; there was a lot of locals for whom 'fags', 'queers', 'homos', whatever were scum of the earth ('jews' and 'niggers' and 'gooks' didn't fare much better). And when you grow up in that environment, you start to believe it. Fortunately my parents were more tolerant, but for many of those people, if that's what their father complains about, and their father,... they grow up believing it; it's in-bred as the worst of the worst.

And yes, they'd rather vote for someone who would send us to war than someone who was all-inclusive and in support of gay rights. You wouldn't believe how powerful that drive is.

I have a few friends who are gay that'd I'd take over some homophobic asshole any day.

We can't change people who think that way, we just need to make for a more inclusive society and start early. I've been raising my son to be thinking inclusively, that's about all we can do. And be a power of example when we get the opportunity.

Vermont ?? Exit polls from last Tues showed that 77% of the voters approved of civil unions! The "Take Back Vermont" crowd failed miserably..I have no doubt that there are still many of the assholes you cited BUT they are definitely the minority and their impact is annoying but easily overcome. BTW I live in Underhill.

40 years has passed.

I grew up in southern VT. At that time there were many locals who had been there for a long time ("Nice weather we're havin' byjeezus") with pickups and empty Bud cans in the bed (pickup bed, I mean) and a gun rack on the back.

VT has since, due to skiing and tourism, had a large influx of more, um, wordly people... Burlington is very progressive, lots of other towns are too. So now it's not anywhere near as bad. But in the 1960s? Oh, yes.

The point is that there are people who grow up with that kind of bigotry and it's just so part of who they are that they'll rarely if ever get past it.

- Tab

"Tab" is completely on the mark. Burlington (Chittenden County) and other areas which have been more impacted by the influx of "flat landers" (those who have moved here with a more worldly view) are only "pockets" in this state that support the Deans, Leahys, Sanders, Jeffords and the more liberal issues, which are associated by those viewing our politics from outside.


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It's not so much people being offended at being called gay, but rather, it's people being offended at being called gay when they're not. This is known as slander when conservatives falsely accuse a guy of being homosexual to damage his reputation in the community.

The evil mind and thoughts remain and are passed from generation to generation



Ku Klux Klan members march down Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC 1928 with the Capitol in the background.

The number of women in this photo is unbelievable, even if it's "ladies first" and does in some way attempt to show an attempt at female equality. I am a woman and am truly ashamed when I see something like this, regardless of the time period referenced. No wonder it took us so long to get where we are today, and we still aren't all the way "there."

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Just experience. I guess --plus the same tired freepers come in here and we respond back to their bull shit with stuff we have saved from the last time we kicked their ass.

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calling each other "gay".

http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5079842.html

Doesn't make it right. But defending violence is beneath us. The bottom line is that a Pro-Kerry supporter took a baseball bat and attacked a pro-* supporter. The one with the bat was 16y.o. Old enough to know better. He should be prosecuted and punished.

Name-calling does not ever justify violence.

Language can be regarded as incitement.

you just justified the violent attack of another human being based on name-calling. It seems pretty straight forward to me that the name-calling was probably not the impetus behind the attack. Both sides used the same vile terms. Only one side resorted to using a baseball bat.

won't be filing some frivolous law suit and that's something to be thankful for!!

But at 16 or 17 there are no Kerry or Bush "supporters." There are clones, usually of the family in which they grew up. The profundity of commitment to Kerry was probably much more superficial than the testosterone of a boy angered at being called "fag."

... division and hatred, then we should expect to see much more political violence. It's that simple.