GIs Force Men Fleeing Fallujah to Return

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As it believes many of Fallujah's men are guerrilla fighters, it has instructed U.S. troops to turn back all males aged 15 to 55.


"We assume they'll go home and just wait out the storm or find a place that's safe," one 1st Cavalry Division officer, who declined to be named, said Thursday.


Army Col. Michael Formica, who leads forces isolating Fallujah, admits the rule sounds "callous." But he insists it's is key to the mission's success.


"Tell them 'Stay in your houses, stay away from windows and stay off the roof and you'll live through Fallujah,'" Formica, of the 1st Cavalry Division's 2nd Brigade, told his battalion commanders in a radio conference call Wednesday night.


more: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=736&e=5&u=/ap/20041112/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_fallujah_refugees

Starving Indians who left the reservations were slaughtered.

Wounded Knee.

Endless lists of slaughters of the Indigenous population by the Troops.

Are we seeing the "Americanization" of Iraq -- put all the Iraqis on reservations -- starve them, deprive them of medical care and water.

Sounds like War Crimes to me.

Sick.

Evil -- but what can be expected from this gang of thugs?

Wait til Johnny comes back and uses his rifle butt to smash the faces of a few protesters at a march to keep women's reproductive rights avialable for all.

Hell the coward might just shoot one in the eye and kill her--- Ooops sorry Boston Red Socks.

SCORCHED EARTH--used to destroy the Native Americans and then practiced over and over by Uncle Sam around the globe and now in Iraq. Scorched earth started in the late 1700s and was used to *punish* the Indians and that included all of them--men, women, AND children. Nothing's changed much.

:grr:

Better have a few POW's than return able bodies to the enemy...

Who the hell is in charge over there, don't tell me they did not even plan for possible surrenders. Jesus tap dancing Christ on a motor cycle, just when I thought these people could not be more incompetent Rummy and Co. manage to outdo themselves.

I was just reading on the international news about a single sniper holding up over 150 jarheads. This is just a show of force so that Rummy can get his battle victory, Fallujah will fall... but these idiots are going to generate a crap load of martyrs and a rallying cry for the resistance. And our poor GIs will be in the middle of this compounded fuck up....:grr:

people — and in some cases, rebel arms — across the river.

So were they "insurgents" or just people trying to flee?? :puke:

These people are in THEIR HOMELAND. They have NO WHERE to hide. It is HELL. Nothing could be worse, other than _Bush finds a way to harm more people in more countries.

What ARE they going to do when they run out of people to slaughter? It could be sooner than we think, at the rate they're going.

On Wednesday, an Apache gunship sank five boats in the Euphrates River that the military said were used to resupply guerrillas with rocket-propelled grenades and mortar shells.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041111/ap_on_re_mi_ea/fallujah_air_war_2

Like the way India got rid of the Brits. Getting all the tribes together would be the hard part.

CROWD OF SOLDIERS AND FREEPERS:
A terrorist! A terrorist! We've found a terrorist! Shoot him! Shoot him!
SOLDIER #1:
We have found a terrorist. May we shoot him?
CROWD:
Shoot him! Shoot! Shoot him! Shoot him!
RUMSFELD:
How do you know he is a terrorist?
SOLDIER #2:
He looks like one.
CROWD:
Right! Yeah! Yeah!
RUMSFELD:
Bring him forward.
FALLUJAN:
I'm not a terrorist. I'm not a terrorist.
RUMSFELD:
Uh, but you are dressed as one.
FALLUJAN:
They dressed me up like this.
CROWD:
Augh, we didn't! We didn't...
FALLUJAN:
And this isn't my AK-47. It's a false one.
RUMSFELD:
Well?
SOLDIER #1:
Well, we did do the gun.
RUMSFELD:
The gun?
SOLDIER #1:
And the explosives residue, but he is a terrorist!
SOLDIER #2:
Yeah!
CROWD:
We shoot him! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!
RUMSFELD:
Did you dress him up like this?
SOLDIER #1:
No!
SOLDIER #2 and 3:
No. No.
SOLDIER #2:
No.
SOLDIER #1:
No.
SOLDIERS #2 and #3:
No.
SOLDIER #1:
Yes.
SOLDIER #2:
Yes.
SOLDIER #1:
Yes. Yeah, a bit.
SOLDIER #3:
A bit.
SOLDIERS #1 and #2:
A bit.
SOLDIER #3:
A bit.
SOLDIER #1:
He has got a dark skin.
RUMSFELD:
What makes you think he is a terrorist?
SOLDIER #3:
Well, he cut my head off.
RUMSFELD:
Your head?
SOLDIER #3:
It grew back.
SOLDIER #2:
Shoot him anyway!
SOLDIER #1:
Fire!
CROWD:
Shoot him! Fire! Shoot him!...
RUMSFELD:
Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether he is a terrorist.
SOLDIER #1:
Are there?
SOLDIER #2:
Ah?
SOLDIER #1:
What are they?
CROWD:
Tell us! Tell us!...
RUMSFELD:
Tell me. What do you do with terrorists?
SOLDIER #2:
Shoot them!
SOLDIER #1:
Shoot!
CROWD:
Shoot! Shoot them all! Fire!...
RUMSFELD:
And what do you shoot apart from terrorists?
SOLDIER #1:
More terrorists!
SOLDIER #3:
Shh!
SOLDIER #2:
Foreigners!
RUMSFELD:
So, why can we shoot terrorists?

SOLDIER #3:
B--... 'cause they're not Americans?
RUMSFELD:
Good! Heh heh.
CROWD:
Oh, yeah. Oh.
RUMSFELD:
So, how do we tell whether he is foreign?
SOLDIER #1:
Make him speak American.
RUMSFELD:
Ah, but do the Poles not speak Polish?
SOLDIER #1:
Oh, yeah.
RANDOM:
Oh, yeah. True. Uhh...
RUMSFELD:
Do foreigners live in Peoria?
SOLDIER #1:
No. No.
SOLDIER #2:
No, they come from foreign parts!
SOLDIER #1:
Throw him in Abu Ghraib! They're all foreign terrorists there!
CROWD:
The prison! Throw him in the prison!
RUMSFELD:
What other cities are foreign?
SOLDIER #1:
San Fransisco!
SOLDIER #2:
New York!
SOLDIER #3:
Uh, very small parts of Miami!
SOLDIER #1:
Boston!
SOLDIER #2:
Uh, Seattle!
SOLDIER #1:
Chicago!
SOLDIER #2:
Los Angeles!
SOLDIER #3:
Uh, Pittsburgh! Pittsburgh!
SOLDIER #2:
Philadelphia! Philadelphia!
DUBYA:
Falluja!
CROWD:
Oooh.
RUMSFELD:
Exactly. So, logically...
SOLDIER #1:
If... we... find him in... Falluja,... he must be a foreigner.
RUMSFELD:
And therefore?
SOLDIER #2:
A terrorist!
SOLDIER #1:
A terrorist!
CROWD:
A terrorist! A terrorist!...
SOLDIER #4:
There is Falluja. Send him back.
RUMSFELD:
Very good. We shall put him in a bombed out clinic.
CROWD:
Ohh! Ohh! Kill the terrorist! Shoot him! Shoot him! Ahh! Ahh...
RUMSFELD:
Right. Bomb the buildings!
CROWD:
A terrorist! A terrorist! A terrorist!
FALLUJAN:
It's a fair cop.
SOLDIER #3:
Shoot him!
CROWD:
Shoot him! Shoot him! Shoot him! Burn! Burn!...
RUMSFELD:
Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
DUBYA:
I am George, King of the Fundies.
RUMSFELD:
My liege!
DUBYA:
Good Sir Knight, will you come with me to Washington and join us at the White House?
RUMSFELD:
My liege! I would be honored.
DUBYA:
What is your name?
RUMSFELD:
'Rumsfeld', my liege.
DUBYA:
Then I dub you 'Sir Rumsfeld, Knight of the White House'.

to help them directly--- BRILLIANT post :-)



Saigon Post of the day Award

Well done on the re-write, I just wish it wasn't so true ...

Author! Author!

somebody has too much free time....

Dark humor always welcome in such dark times.....

It's a crime to force unarmed fleeing civilians back into a war zone. If they do think that these people are insurgents, they should detain them, but put them out of harms way.

When other nations have done this, we've called it a war crime.

Why the double standard?

WE ARE ABOVE THE LAW!

It doesn't apply to the war against "terra". So says our new Attorney General designate.

god help those people.

Once the battle ends, military officials say all surviving military-age men can expect to be tested for explosive residue, catalogued, checked against insurgent databases and interrogated about ties with the guerrillas. U.S. and Iraqi troops are in the midst of searching homes, and plan to check every house in the city for weapons.

no, really, it's ok, you vill be fine meine kinder.....



The More Things Change the More They Remain the Same.




Amazing on how so little has changed

I can’’t wait for the troop apologists to declare

““WELL THEY DIDN’’T KILL HIM””

or “WE AREN’T NAZIS YET” !!!

Look at the image of Terror in this MAN’’S EYES on his FACE !!!

If the plan is, as they say,

"Once the battle ends, military officials say all surviving military-age men can expect to be tested for explosive residue, catalogued, checked against insurgent databases and interrogated about ties with the guerrillas."

Then there's no reason not to do that when these men are stopped. Oh that's right, we don't have the personnel for that. Easier just to send 'em back into the slaughterhouse. This is just awful.

in place of death camps and ovens - just bomb the buildings - don't let them leave and call them insurgents - this is murder

If they live through the attack, they can still rejoin the resistance later. Unless the marines plan to kill all males between 15 and 45 in the city, this makes no sense. I suppose they might hope that the experience will frighten them out of the resistance, and demoralize the resistance in general. But history has shown this is rarely the case - in fact witnessing a military assault often stiffens the resolve of the opponent.

blasted or burned to a crisp-- most thinking men swear revenge on the thugs, hoodlums and criminals who did this to their loved one.

They don't just run out and VOTE for the Puppet of the thugs, hoodlums and criminals who did this to them.

via Bush and the Republican controlled Congress. Even then, the word of Congressional and Presidential PEROGATIVES need take no responsibility for their acts. I do believe that there is sufficient historical documentation for this assertion!!


STOP THE WAR!!!!

:argh:

The Peterson Verdict ... don't look behind the curtain!!!