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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:25 PM
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U.S. Says Fallujah Mission Accomplished
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 03:42 PM by maddezmom
AP Changes the headline and story, now reads:
U.S. Troops Occupy All of Fallujah

5 minutes ago Middle East - AP


By JIM KRANE, Associated Press Writer

FALLUJAH, Iraq - U.S. military officials said Saturday that American troops had now "occupied" the entire city of Fallujah and there were no more major concentrations of insurgents still fighting. Artillery and airstrikes also ended after nightfall.

Iraqi officials declared the operation to free Fallujah of militants was "accomplished" but acknowledged the two most wanted figures in the city — Jordanian terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Sheik Abdullah al-Janabi — had escaped the fighting.


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FALLUJAH, Iraq - U.S. troops declared Saturday the operation to free Fallujah of militants was "accomplished" but acknowledged the two most wanted figures in the city — Jordanian terror mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Sheik Abdullah al-Janabi — had escaped the fighting.

But after nearly a week of intense urban combat, U.S. officers said resistance had not been entirely subdued and that it still could take several days of fighting to clear the final pockets.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=736&e=1&u=/ap/20041113/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

It worked so well the last time they said it. :eyes:


Islamist Groups Vow to Spread Fight Across Iraq

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041113/ts_nm/iraq_zarqawi_dc&cid=564&ncid=1480
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:27 PM
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1. Hmmm... I seem to have heard that somewhere
Where could it have been...?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:41 PM
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12. MFA?
Mission Fucking Accomplished?

When I first saw the caption..I thought to meself.."US..says it's so?..Yeah right"!

It must be just the opposite..cause they are lyin' pigs who lie just to keep in top form!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:19 PM
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30. Yeah...I remember
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 07:24 PM by Zorra
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:28 PM
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2. On to Mosul (population 3 million)
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 03:33 PM by vidali
Looks like you're going to have to copy the url into your browser rather than clicking on it: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=ES14G3X5CINMGCRBAE0CFEY?type=topNews&storyID=6804743

"In Mosul, gunmen were still roaming the streets in some districts after storming and looting nine police stations on Thursday, but Iraqi and U.S. forces were guarding some of the key bridges that span the Tigris River, residents said In other districts, vigilantes set up roadblocks and patrolled neighborhoods to deter thieves and looters.

The U.S. military said the city was calmer on Saturday, with only sporadic fighting in some areas. It said three of five Tigris bridges had reopened and a curfew had been lifted.

Mosul, a mostly Sunni city of about two million people, tipped into chaos on Wednesday and Thursday, when groups of gunmen ran amok, attacking and torching nine police stations.

The U.S. commander in the north said the gunmen were trying to draw attention from Falluja, but that they appeared to be from the area, not guerrillas who had escaped the U.S. cordon."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:30 PM
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4. maybe they are going to Mosul to stop the looting!!!!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 06:17 PM
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24. when you get a link with a semi-colon (;) embedded,
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 06:20 PM by UpInArms
just replace the ; for a ? and the link won't be "broken"

www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?jsessionid=ES14G3X5CINMGCRBAE0CFEY?type=topNews&storyID=6804743

edited to add the humor from your link:

"More than 1,000 Saddamists and terrorists have been killed. Around 200 have been arrested," he said. "The operations are almost over. There are only pockets of resistance left."

OOOO- Saddamists!

I am really scared now!

What happened to "Bathists" or "dead-enders"?

hohohohohohahahahahahahehehehehehe

:scared: of those "Saddamists"!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 06:44 PM
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26. Thanks! Good to know. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:29 PM
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3. Are we gonna have the perznit land on an aricraft
carrier and declare Major Combat Operations are over AGAIN?

Of course with the Mission Accomplished sign that the sailors made (their excuse)
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:31 PM
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6. where is the infamous banner?
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:37 PM
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35. I think Commander Bunny-pants
should parachute into Fallujah. He seems fond of wearing them.
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cubsfan forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:53 PM
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41. LOL! n/t
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heyphillip Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:31 PM
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5. Fighting over?
They are full of Shit there is still fighting going on there. the media and the military is always spinning whats happening in Iraq. they want no bad news coming out of there.if you go to Aljazeera you will see differant storys on Iraq.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:34 PM
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9. 412 in Lanstuhl...
tells me a lot...and that's only the casualties they are admitting. Red Crescent not allowed to enter Fallujah...why not, what is the US military afraid of???
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eleonora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:33 PM
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7. almost hillarious yet sad
How are you supposed to 'kill off all the insurgents, oh wait, terrorists' if you advertise the battle days in advance???
This whole operation just doesn't make sense. Methinks it's one of those pulicity stunts again.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:34 PM
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8. Meanwhile, back in Mosul...er..Baghdad..um..Samarra...
well, an unwinnable war is never done! We better decide soon where to attack next so the insurgents have plenty of time to get out of town again!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:35 PM
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10. Ramadi, Tikrit, Baiji...they are all a mess
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:37 PM
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11. I guess that means we got our asses kicked
--bkl
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:42 PM
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13. riiiiiiiiiiiiight...until they leave....then it's back to the way it was
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:44 PM
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14. more likely "occupied" the barren landscape that USED to be Fallujah . . .
n/t
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:49 PM
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16. and now since they occupy Fallujah, the Red Crescent should be allowed
in to assist the civilians left alive.
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missouri dem Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 06:23 PM
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25. Yes we had to distroy Fallujah in order to save it.
We will have to kill most of them in order to bring them democracy.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 06:49 PM
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27. I'll assume you're being sarcastic...
because lately I've been called out for being too literal. :)
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missouri dem Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:29 PM
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32. Ah yes, It was sarcasm......
But I see what you mean. I was refering back to a quote form the Vietnam era, I am showing my age.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:05 PM
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38. thought you were...
and show your age...we all can learn from the past. :hugs:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:44 PM
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15. Hmm.. earlier this week they reported the insurgents left Falljuah before.
.. they reported several times that most insurgents had left the area before the offensive. Great.. now they're somewhere else.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 04:02 PM
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17. Oh great! Another "Mission Accomplished"
For him that can only mean it's a prelude to even more massive death and destruction.:-(
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 04:09 PM
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18. another change to the OP: occupied but not subdued
FALLUJAH, Iraq - U.S. military officials said Saturday that American troops had now "occupied" the entire city of Fallujah and there were no more major concentrations of insurgents still fighting after nearly a week of intense urban combat.

A U.S. officer, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Fallujah was "occupied but not subdued." Artillery and airstrikes also were halted after nightfall to prevent mistaken attacks on U.S. and Iraqi forces who had taken up positions throughout the city.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&ncid=540&e=1&u=/ap/20041113/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 04:50 PM
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19. These stupid MFs just DON'T GET IT
Now what? Oh, saddle up, men - we gotta drive up to Mosul tonight. Unbelievable.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 04:57 PM
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20. Better hope Zell Miller doesn't read that article!!
Those U.S. officials better hope ol' Zell doesn't get a hold of them!

"Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today's Democratic leaders see America as an occupier, not a liberator.

And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American troops occupiers rather than liberators. "

Go sick 'em, Zell!!!
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Angelique Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 05:26 PM
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21. Someone should go in there and check for the fresh graves of the innocent
before they are hidden forever!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 06:11 PM
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22. they need forensic experts from other countries
seems to me the way things are being blown up as arms caches could also hold the dead.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 01:59 PM
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39. Hi Angelique!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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L84TEA Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 06:14 PM
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23. Oh Great... here we go back to Baghdad...
heck the bad guys prolly got an Air Force one Plane OUT!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 06:51 PM
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28. Time to declare victory and leave
500 casualties was enough.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:15 PM
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29. Over 400 wounded and transferred to Germany, citizens starving and
thirsting, town bombed to hell, stench, no hospital, clinic bombed - everything is rosy because we say all is accomplished!

Don't you love to play war games? How did we get here? What madmen and women brought us here? Do you think Jesus is looking down on our leaders with love?

But they left the mosques standing. I guess people all over the world can thank the U.S. that we honored that value?

With all sarcasm!
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:20 PM
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31. Is it time for the chickenshit in the WH.....
to stuff some more socks in his pants and play fighter pilot again?
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Zerex71 Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:31 PM
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51. Had to laugh at that one!
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sr_pacifica Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:29 PM
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33. And al-Zarqawi escapes
which I had read was the true mission of this offensive. Bin Laden, al-Zarqawi,"Mission accomplished"---Same-o, Same-o
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:01 PM
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42. Assuming he was ever there...
which is unclear.
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SoSleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 07:33 PM
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34. Never mind that mess in Iraq - Get Shopping!
Honestly, this is what we're going to be blasted with on TV. Christmas is around the corner and as we're this "Christian Country" it is our duty to go out and spend money on useless gifts.

So avert your eyes as most Americans and FOX viewers in partuclar do when we decide to take over a country.

SHOP!!!
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:19 PM
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36. Mission Accomplished? Seems we've heard that before.
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Zech Marquis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:37 PM
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37. those words sound so hollow
especially with no victory parade or grand speech by *...that's so sad when you can't even take the words from the DoD as being the truth anymore :eyes:
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:47 PM
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40. Mass death and destruction is "mission accomplished"?
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 02:48 PM by Darranar
Revealing....
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:06 PM
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43. Maybe Shrub can slide down a rope from a helicopter this time...
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:37 PM
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44. "mission accomplished"
We haven't hit bottom yet...................
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:51 PM
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45. "Mission Accomplished"??? BWAHAHAHA!!!
When did I hear those words before? Gee, only about 1,000 GI deaths ago.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:04 PM
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46. when will they dress the monkey in desert fatigues
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 03:17 AM
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53. When they can convince some Hollywood studio execs to do the photo-op
on a back studio lot.

As for Fallujah, Wolfowitz has been strangely silent - no self-glorifying pronouncments about Iraqis greeting us as liberators and dancing in the streets and throwing flowers this time around, I guess.
Now they think they have a "mandate", they think they can just get on with their agenda of genocide for oil, without making any excuses for it, and without having to sell the public any mythical scenarios.
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Justathought Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:19 PM
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47. Wow....mission accomplished in Fallujah.
I think it would be an awesome Christmas Card picture if mr. chimpy would go on his own in fatigues. Stand on an unarmed tank (since mission accomplished no need for arming) in the middle of Fallujah and take a picture. I wonder how many will come up and hug him in Fallujah for mission accomplished?:grouphug:
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:25 PM
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48. Is this on the recruiting poster??????????
"Any (Iraqi National Guard) or (Iraqi special forces) not seen with the Marines are to be considered hostile," Lt. Owen Boyce, 24, of Simsbury, Conn., told his men.


If you have to go the head, make sure you take a marine with you.
Reminds you of the old phrase "But... we're down here to help you people"
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Justathought Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:52 PM
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49. I am not sure if it is on a poster
but Lieutenents love to fluff up their egos with this kind of stuff. Had to work under a couple like that and it was a huge joke.
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LoneStarHero Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 07:10 PM
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50. Good, I hope Fallujah will no longer give our boys anymore trouble.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-16-04 01:47 AM
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52. You wish. Does the name 'Grozny' ring a bell?
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/111204X.shtml

There are at least 120 mosques in Fallujah. A consensus is emerging that almost half of them have been smashed by air strikes and shelling by US tanks - something that will haunt the United States for ages. The mosques stopped broadcasting the five daily calls for prayer, but Fadhil Badrani, an Iraqi reporter for BBC World Service in Arabic and one of the very few media witnesses in Fallujah, writes that "every time a big bomb lands nearby, the cry rises from the minarets: 'Allahu Akbar' ".When a few snipers are capable of holding scores of marines for a day in Fallujah - an eerie replay of the second part of Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket - and when eight of 10 US divisions are bogged down by a few thousand Iraqis with Kalashnikovs and grenade launchers, the fact is the US does not control anything in Sunni Iraq. It does not control towns, cities, roads, and it barely controls the Green Zone, the American fortress in Baghdad that is the ultimate symbol of the occupation.

In 1999, the Russians bombed and destroyed Grozny, the Chechen capital, a city of originally 400,000 people. Five years later, Chechen guerrillas are still trapping Russian troops in a living hell there. The same scenario will be replayed in Fallujah - a city of originally 300,000 people. All this destruction - which any self-respecting international lawyer can argue is a war crime - for the Bush administration to send a brutal message: either you're with us or we'll smash you to pieces.

The Iraqi resistance does not care if thousands of mujahideen are smashed to pieces: it is actually gearing up for a major strategic victory. The strategy is twofold: half of the Fallujah resistance stayed behind, ready to die like martyrs, increasing the already boiling-point hatred of Americans in Iraq and the Middle East and boosting their urban support. The other half left before Phantom Fury and is already setting fires in Baghdad, Tikrit, Ramadi, Baquba, Balad, Kirkuk, Mosul and even Shi'ite Karbala.
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