Bush threatens mankind, says Caldicott

Nobel Peace Prize nominee Dr Helen Caldicott fears US President George Bush's re-election will lead to Armageddon and she isn't sure if mankind would survive another four years.

"This is the most serious election that has ever occurred in the history of the human race, without a scrag of doubt," she told smh.com.au.

"I don't know if we'll survive the next four years ... I don't think the Americans have, on the whole, the faintest idea - and I have to say also I don't think most Australians do either. But it's not just the threat from nuclear war. It's the threat of what's happening to the environment, the global warming which is occurring rapidly now, to ozone depletion, to species extinction, to deforestation - it's the whole thing."

Speaking from her son Will's Boston home, the Australian paediatrician, who runs the Nuclear Policy Research Institute in Washington, has just spent a frantic two-and-a-half months criss-crossing America to deliver her anti-nuclear and anti-Bush message. She discovered the country was more divided than at any time since she first stepped onto American soil in 1966.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/11/15/1100384498193.html

her ducks are all in a row... she is brilliant.

I've sent it to everyone in my address book.

She's a great woman, once again just stating the obvious for any sane human being on the planet.

watching, and speaking out, as long as they are able...... She's very decent.

In 1983, The National Film Board of Canada's documentary of a Caldicott lecture, "If You Love This Planet," was labelled a "propaganda film by agents of a foreign government" by the US Justice Dept, and its distribution was restricted. (Along with a couple of other NFB films on acid rain.)

Twenty-one fucking years ago.

Humanity. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

Very few have her intelligence, experience, and compassion. It's saddening that her talents are wasted on these assholes who are determined to mess up the planet.

bush is a fucking nazi.

neocons before they kill us all.

Porter Goss, 21st century fascist, is clearing out anybody who might be a critic of the bush organized crime family.

I really need to get over it, but I still need to vent my immense displeasure at the way the dems allowed Goss in this position without a peep. They had to know this shit would happen. Goss makes ol Georgie T look like an independent, brilliant, ethical, and principled director. :scared:

right about now.

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Nobody stopped them, and look what happened.

Now, the neocons are the new nazis, and hopefully someone will stop them.

Big government? Bu$h has the biggest government in the history of the world and he is expanding it at an alarming rate on a daily basis.

Got another one.;-)

There's no proof it's happening.

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...creationism is being written into high school text books. Up is down and front is back.

Just jumping on today's simpleton bandwagon. Hehehe.

isn't THAT the frightening truth.

These people are creating the new reality and the sheep are lapping it up like poisoned lemonade.

One quarter of the voters (roughly)voted for an illusion of morality, another quarter were uninformed or swayed by superficial name-calling or personal financial interest, the other half knew what was happening and somehow couldn't get it through to the others. To the world, we look like idiots, as if * reflects who we are. I pray that the recount changes things, even though it's a hair-thin chance.

He intends to start the "Rapture".

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"They have been able to con the American people with their extremely brilliant propaganda and brainwashing, with the help of the media ... they consistently lie. On the whole the American people don't really understand the dynamics of the right at all. They don't know that Bush et al want to go into Iran next and that they want to dominate the world militarily and that they want to put weapons in space.

"I don't think they understand. It is a mandate for Bush to do absolutely anything he wants. I know people don't like me using this word but they're fascists."

The guy's not an unelected moron anymore.

The Smirkelgrüber's got political capital and he knows how to use it.

And it's not just to end the world. He wants to end OUR world. He'll populate it with his GOP-approved slaves, like Grover Norquist.

Such a NAZI.

Either we underestimated the evil fuck, or we overestimed the intellectual capacity of Joe Six Pack. Probably a little bit of both. Maybe a lot of both.

Whatever the case is, we fucked up... now humanity gets to pay the price. I feel nothing but shame about this election.

ABCNNBCBSFoxNoiseNutwork control most of what Joe Sixpack and Jane Soccermom see and hear. Somce we can't count on the Press to do its Constitutionally mandated responsibility, we citizens must do a better job of spreading the Truth -- Person to Person.

BTW: A hearty welcome to DU, Ctrl_Alt_Del! Like the code name!

I am....

A Nobel Prize winner....why don't we get people like THIS running our party instead of these half-bakked Republican wanna-bes.

I'm tired of Republican lite...It's time to ratchet up the battle. Start our own media movement (its happening)...and a turkey a turkey....

Iran? I heard if we strike them they will strike back. They seem to be stopping with the enrichment of uranium though. He has those little nukes too that are more usable. And the country he strikes would use the big nukes in response. Terrorists maybe like that movie with Ben Affleck? Maybe, if the terrorists get a nuclear bomb and denonate it here, and then Bush automatically just nukes the country that they are found to come from and that country or an allied country responds like North Korea or Iran. I say a documentary about how the president has access to a suitcase that can lauches nuclear missiles. They carry around this "button" so he can be ready to do that at any time if anything suddenly develops. Scary.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/031004Leopold/031004leopold.html
Cheney helped cover-up Pakistani nuclear proliferation in '89 so US could sell country fighter jets

"I don't think I've ever felt so personally, politically devastated in my life and that includes when Reagan won a second term of office - which was pretty devastating for me as I was so heavily involved in the anti-nuclear movement in those days.

"But this is worse, these people are much worse than the Reagan people."

Me too, Dr. Calidicott. :(

"...the Americans have, on the whole, the faintest idea..."

I believe the Americans DO have an idea of what's happening. There are many more of us than she realizes who despise what's going on. If EVERY VOTE was counted, it would be shown that Bush actually lost by quite a large margin.

WE ARE NOT A MINORITY.

is absofuckinglutely!

"You know, I agree that Armageddon will follow Bush's re-election! Why, because it is Biblical. There will be an Armageddon but it won't be until after Christ returns and we go thru the Tribulation. It will be the battle that ends all battles! It will be between Christ himself and Evil, itself.

All that is in the news is leading to this fact. As I study the Old Testament the awesome reality of "fulfilled prophecy" has made itself known to me. There are many prophecies that are coming true now and the stage is set for more. It would happen no matter who was elected. If Kerry had won we still would have Armageddon in the future!

I hope you don't think I am "radical" with this statement. It is just that I, personally believe it as truth. Christ will return and my future is with Him. It is a promise that is carried thru the entire Bible, both Old and New Testament.

Ginny, I hope my beliefs on this issue doesn't dampen our budding friendship. Remember we agreed to agree to disagree in politics and religion. I can't promise that I won't try to share my religious beliefs because I care for you . I do promise that I won't preach at you though, because I know you have had some bad experiences with "religion".

It is so strange that you posted this because after trying to convince family to vote for Kerry this past election, I received many a response that was just like this.

Much to the effect that "Yeah I realize armageddon is coming and I just voted for it and that's how it's supposed to be.....blah..blah..."

When did religion equate to pre-determined death?

... you gotta dump this guy, just to remain sane.

friendly advice

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-Laelth

Not of an occurance....

They can't even get that straight...

He and all his damned Tim LaHaye-reading "Rapture" freakazoids can take a boat to somewhere a long away from the US and have their end of the world party there. This is PRECISELY why these people are dangerous! It's not the outward manifestations -- war, poverty, disease -- although those are horrid results -- it's the *mentality* that is allowed to thrive. I always have wondered, since being younger and reading John Hersey's "Hiroshima" (required reading for all of you, by the way), what would emerge from total nuclear war, humanistically speaking, and if the first thing the survivors would do would be forever forbid weaponry like that -- to prevent anything like that from happening. Secondly, one would hope they'd prevent ignorance.

For let's face it...ignorance is what is ruling the day right now. Again, it's not about the manifestations -- propaganda in the form of corpomedia, ballot shenanignans, religious nutjobs being allowed to vote en masse -- it's the *ignorance*, the lack of education, and somehow this is permissible in our society? Somehow American individuals think they are above the law, above God, above rational thought, above facts -- and this needs to be stopped. (Try challenging a red-stater and see if they don't think they've "won" the argument just because "they said so".)

You know, I know there's the old saw about "why argue, you're not going to change anyone's mind" -- well, screw that. I'm all for making ignorant people as mad and uncomfortable until they realize their errors, if at all possible. I won't go down without a fight in any argument, based on solid facts and science. It's time for the mouthbreathers to feel what it's like to be upset and angry at the direction the country and the world is going.

If ever there was a time to have a civil war, now would be the time -- before it's too late.

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I said in front of a few people at my office that nothing short of the future of mankind depended on * being booted back to the fake farm at Crawford. Although to the last they are all anti-*, it's all a bit too much for some people and they dismissed it as dramatics or "You have been watching too many Hollywood disaster movies". Too many people thinking of the short term. Come to think of it, I was the only father among them (I have two girls). I only think long-term nowadays, and another four years with the neocrazies at the helm of the US does not bode well.

You go Helen! You're a top sheila!

According to Colonel Donn De Grand Pre (former military for years and in the know), who's written three books on what really happened on 911 and other stuff, offers some hope. He says that about 70% of the military are on board with us, the good guys, and will intervene when the time comes.

Here's an excerpt of an interview with him...

AJ: We are talking to Col. Donn de Grand-Pre and he worked in many of the levels of the U.S. military and has put out some really important information.

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DGP: Well, I'm in personal contact at least on a weekly basis with the Joint Chiefs and other select people. My computation is that 70% of us are with us. That's the higher ranking military, field grade officers, etc. and even the first three grades of the enlisted ' 70% are with us.

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DGP: Sheer bluff and we can thank many of the neocons who are now in power in the Defense Dept. particularly. They get away with it because they try it out and see if anybody will salute the flag and that's the way it goes.

AJ: So basically, they wrap their un-American agenda in a flag and the general public buys it so the military has to sit there and take it.

DGP: They do, yes, and I think those days are coming to an end. The military ain't going to take it any longer.

http://www.beatlestribute.com/Col._Donn_de_Grand-Pre-Transcript_.htm


Please don't shoot the messenger on this one. I think this guy is for real. I just have to believe that somehow good will prevail.

People tend to slightly over-estimate the powers of nation leaders to blindly attack other powerful nations.

I recall that Paul Bremer, or some other now high-ranking military officer, in the Kosovo war ordered the bombing of a Serbian airport that the Russian army WAS IN THE PROCESS OF OCCUPYING. Thankfully for the world his subordinate refused to comply, saying "I'm not going to start the third world war for YOU."
We must all hope that military officials will have the bravery and sense of refusing to obey completely suicidal orders.

Edit: I just remembered that I never saw any of this collaborated anywhere by a reliable source or offical documents. Soy this may not be true, but still...

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She says "Bush threatens mankind."

Truth is, it's Bush plus the majority of Americans who voted for him who threaten mankind.

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"The New Nuclear Danger...George W. Bush"

It's a very difficult book to read - difficult in that it scares the bejeebers out of me how dangerous his stupidity is.

the real "dirty bombs" that the US military is using over there. I tell "pro-life" Christians about depleted uranium every chance I get.

"Physician, humanist, empassioned advocate for nuclear disarmament and a true woman of peace is Nobel Peace Prize nominee, Dr. Helen Caldicott.

Helen Caldicott is recognized in every corner of the globe as the most visible advocate for peace in the world. Her awards, acknowledgments and citations fill pages - just to name a few: Peace Medal Award (United Nations Association of Australia), which she shared with her husband, William Caldicott, who is equally dedicated to the mission for world peace; Integrity Award (John-Roger Foundation), which she shared with Bishop Desmond TuTu; Peace Award (American Association of University Women); SANE Peace Award; Ghandi Peace Prize... and the list goes on. Dr. Caldicott has written books (Nuclear Madness.- What You Can Do and Missile Envy), developed dozens of video tapes and films, written scores of articles which have appeared in nearly every major newspaper and magazine; spoken at major universities throughout the world and has met with heads of state everywhere.

She founded and headed Physicians For Social Responsibility and Women's Action For Nuclear Disarmament (WAND)."

http://www.wic.org/bio/caldicot.htm

-Laelth

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The whole planet appears to be fucked!

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