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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:33 PM
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Fineman: The win-at-all-costs president (the tapes)
Secret tapes reveal George Bush's combative, even arrogant heart

“I may have to get a little rough for a while,” Bush told Doug Wead in a surrepticiously taped conversation about the race against Steve Forbes for the 2000 Republican nomination. “But that is what the old man had to do with Dukakis, remember?”

Here are two stories about young “Georgie” Bush that you may not have heard, but which are worth recounting as he travels the globe as a world leader.

As a boy in Maine, he was the oldest of many cousins, and would set the rules for summer games at the family compound. “If he was losing he’d change the rules – or take the ball and leave,” one cousin told me. Then there was the time when, as a new kid, just up from Texas at his prep school Andover, Bush was tripped and mocked early in an intramural soccer match. He waited for a chance to exact revenge – then blindsided his foe so viciously he nearly broke the boy’s ankle. “He spent that match angling to take me out,” said the Andover alum, now a successful businessman. “And he did.”

(snip)

At the time of the tapes, the governor of Texas was worried, almost obsessed, by the threat posed to his chances by a guy far richer and ideologically-vetted than he: Steve Forbes. A key to Bush’s strategy was to scare others out of the Republican nomination race by amassing a horde of contributions and endorsements, and by drying up those resources for the other candidates. The idea was to render the race a fait accompli before it even started.

It was easy to muscle the hapless Dan Quayle. As Poppy Bush went around quietly soliciting contributions for his son, the elder Bush let it be known that the Family would track gifts to other candidates, including Quayle. The former vice president had little chance in any case, but the Bushes were not taking chances. “They stepped on his air hose,” a Quayle advisor later told me.
But there was no stepping on Forbes. The guy had untold millions of dollars of his own, a geeky fearlessness that make him oblivious to threats and close, deep ties to the libertarian wing of the conservative movement in the GOP. Forbes dad made life miserable for Bob Dole in the ’96 Republican race, and Bush was worried that he might well do the same to him in the year 2000.

Bush’s response? To Wead – who might pass word along to Forbes – Bush threatened to take his ball and go home, then wait for the moment of payback. Were Forbes to win the GOP nomination by attacking him too hard, Bush told Wead, he could forget any support from the Bush family, including from his brother Jeb, the governor of Florida. Forbes “can forget Texas,” Bush tells Wead. “And he can forget Florida. And I will sit on my hands.” In other words, Bush would rather see the Democrats win the White House than a Republican who humiliated him by defeating him in the nomination race.

more…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7017489/
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:45 PM
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1. Goodie! More examples of Shrub's complete LACK of character!
Oh joy! I feel so much better now!
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 02:49 PM
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2. Fuck Fineman
He realizes how horrible of a president, and person * is but at every opportunity he hits his knees and opens wide to take what * is willing to give him. He is a cowardly whore.

In response to the editorial though it doesn't surprise me. * is a spoiled brat. That was obvious in every debate, and at every press conference
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:05 PM
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4. Similar to my sentiments --- too little too late
Or, so fucking what? This isn't anything NEW, it's just more details about what we already know.

:shrug:

So fucking what?
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 03:00 PM
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7. When Churchill was derided for praising Stalin after Hitler invaded...
...he responded that: "if Hitler invaded Hell, I assure you I would find something nice to say about the Devil."

Fineman has a long history of being a complete enabler for the monarchists while presenting a persona of impartiality. He's a transparent whore of the worst sort, and Kurtz' delicate dancing on the subject of Guckert reminds me of nothing so much as Howie.

Nonetheless, I'll take it from wherever it can be found and be happy for it. Remember: America loves to tear down the famous, and if the cracks start to form and others start beating them to the punch, all sorts of urinalists like these may rush to throw some logs on the fire. That doesn't make them good, and it may be nothing more than plain meanness and a desire to cover their past evils, but I don't care. I don't have to like someone to agree with him. It's also fun to watch weaselly liars like Fineman twist in the wind.

I also like the "character" story coming out; we're a facile people, and if enough people find out that Frat Boy-wonder would piss in the beer you're having with him as a joke, it'll be better for us all.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 03:19 PM
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:51 PM
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5. Whoreward strikes again...
...he does not come close to being an ass, but he sure is a big hole!
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 04:34 AM
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6. But now * told on himself so Repubs can no longer lie about him
to anyone in the public. We have the tapes to prove it.

:kick:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:50 PM
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8. The majority of the public will never get these details.
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 10:46 PM by Disturbed
The story is about MJ and who cares and the Silverspoon Sociopath "not kicking the sinful gays." His Cult see this little tape revelation as a plus. This whole scenerio smells like a Rove setup to offset Gannongate and The Whore Media boyout from the Bush Junta.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 06:14 AM
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9. Whoa Howard! You've finally reallized what a nasty piece of work our ....
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 06:15 AM by bklyncowgirl
Dear Leader is.

Took you awhile, Bud. Would have helped a bit more if you'd done some of this digging into Dear Learder's less than pleasant personal traits a little sooner--like maybe before the election--but hey, we'll take what we can get.

Welcome aboard Howard. That is until, of course, you go back to worshipping the ground that Dear Leader stands on, which will probably in your next column.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 07:37 AM
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10. Email this article to Everyone you know!!!
Get the word out on what kind of man the Phony-In-Chief really is.
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