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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 09:40 PM
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CIA Flying Suspects To Torture? (CBS News)
(CBS) 60 Minutes has videotaped a secret jet the Central Intelligence Agency is said to be using to deliver terror suspects to countries known for torturing people.

The four-month investigation of the CIA's "rendition" program, the practice of sending suspects to foreign governments for interrogation, also found a man who says he was mistakenly taken on the plane to a jail in Afghanistan where he was mistreated for months. <snip>

60 Minutes confirmed that the plane left Skopje, Macedonia, and went to Baghdad and then Kabul on the day in question. El-Masri says he awoke in a jail cell where his captors said, "You're in a country without laws and no one knows where you are."

"It was very clear to me that he meant I could stay in my cell for 20 years or be buried somewhere," El-Masri tells Pelley. " whether I had contacts with Islamic parties like al-Qaeda or the Muslim Brotherhood or aid organizations, lots of questions." <snip>

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/03/04/60minutes/main678155.shtml

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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 09:42 PM
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1. very good,
they finally woke the fuck up to "extraordinary rendition."
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 09:44 PM
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2. Howzabout we torture the bastards who looked the other frigging
way both prior to and on 911 to get the truth?? Oh no... that would be too inconvenient. Bastards.

http://www.gregpalast.com/printerfriendly.cfm?artid=103
FBI AND US SPY AGENTS SAY BUSH SPIKED BIN LADEN PROBES BEFORE 11 SEPTEMBER
The Guardian (London)
Wednesday, November 7, 2001
Hmmm, in light of the President's "Press Conference" this week, the award winning article below, from the Guardian, details what George "Dubya" Bush knew and when he forgot it!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 09:44 PM
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3. it won't have any legs, like everything else
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Briar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 05:49 AM
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4. Why is the headline a question?
It should be a statement. As their story shows, the US is flying suspects to torture.

And since a majority of the population probably thinks the safety of Americans warrants such atrocities, the story will just be ignored anyway.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 11:05 AM
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5. CBS
Nice to see them continuing with administration-damning programming after Rathergate.

Now, is this some kind of Rovian dis-information?


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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 11:20 AM
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6. Hello, CIA. You are infringing on human rights
and one of these days, when the ruling class is no longer in power in America, all of you spooks will be held accountable for any crimes you committed or were a party to.
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:21 PM
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7. We need more investigative reports just like this.
If for no other reason, it can corroborate first hand reports like Mr. El-Masri's. Good Lord, why does the US think that the information it tortures out of people is going to be reliable? If this happened to me, then after about the first month of solitary confinement I would probably tell my captors whatever I thought they wanted to hear.

Maybe they're not after reliable information, though.


60 Minutes confirmed that the plane left Skopje, Macedonia, and went to Baghdad and then Kabul on the day in question. El-Masri says he awoke in a jail cell where his captors said, "You're in a country without laws and no one knows where you are."

"It was very clear to me that he meant I could stay in my cell for 20 years or be buried somewhere," El-Masri tells Pelley. "(They asked me) whether I had contacts with Islamic parties like al-Qaeda or the Muslim Brotherhood or aid organizations, lots of questions."

El-Masri added that his fellow prisoners in the American-run jail were Saudi Arabians, Tanzanians, a Yemeni and a Pakistani who had lived in the U.S. El-Masri says he was in solitary confinement for five months and then released without an explanation as to why he was imprisoned. He may have been one of the lucky ones because some suspects are "rendered" to their home countries where torture is practiced.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 05:09 PM
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8. Glad to see this going mainstream...
this is the type of stuff that is heralded from the right as "liberal media bias" not only that but "elite, liberal media bias"...just listen in a couple of days all the puppethead Kabuki players will be calling traitor, terrorist supporters, and undermining our troops moral, some unamerican spin on it...then ta da...every talk show pundit will be spouting his version..of why this type of story is so demoralizing to the cause...and how we aid the enemy...and how "those people" don't deserve humane treatment because the are subhuman killers, indoctrinated beyond re-education...they are laughing up their sleeve's, thou , because even if a confession is extracted over a fire, on a spit, if it was "rendered" legally in an other country where it is not illegal to extract confessions...we'll accept it in a court of law..or military tribunal...they can torture and they can use the testimony..what a living hell...the ends justify the means ...once again
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 06:57 PM
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9. Outsourcing Has Gone Too Far!
Bring our political prisoners here, force them to listen to (and watch) our Fearless Leader in our ridiculous media, eat our standard American diet, and listen to rap. They'll confess to anything (and vote Republican) in no time!
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