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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 03:26 PM
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US Drops Foreign Prisoner Treaty: No Access to Consulate if Arrested
The blowback to you as an American, is that if you are arrested in a foreign country, the government of that country no longer has the obligation to notify the American consulate in that country that you have been arrested, or to guarantee you access to your consulate. Thank you, George Bush.

March 11, 2005

US DROPS FOREIGN PRISONER TREATY
From Elaine Monaghan in Washington


THE United States has withdrawn from an accord that lets an international court settle disputes over foreign inmates, it was announced yesterday.
The decision followed an International Court of Justice ruling last year that ordered new hearings for 51 Mexican death-row inmates because US authorities did not tell them that they could consult diplomats from their own country immediately after their arrests.

It was confirmed just 24 hours after President Bush unexpectedly announced that the US would comply with the court’s ruling to order new hearings for the inmates.

The decision caused anger in Mexico on the day that Condoleezza Rice, the US Secretary of State, arrived on an official visit and was condemned by human rights advocates.

“I think it is deplorable,” Frederic Kirgis, a law professor at Washington and Lee University in Virginia, said. “It is another step away from US participation in international law and international affairs.”

Dr Rice informed Kofi Annan, the UN Secretary-General, of the decision in a terse letter dated March 7. It said that the US “hereby withdraws” from an optional treaty, attached to the Vienna Convention of 1963, that recognised the right of the International Court of Justice to rule in disputes between countries over consular access to foreign nationals imprisoned abroad.

Yesterday’s decision has no impact on the Mexicans, whose cases are likely to be reviewed by courts in Texas, California and elsewhere to establish whether the failure to put them in touch with a Mexican official affected their fate. Their convictions are unlikely to be overturned. The US was originally the leading advocate of the protocol, as it is known, as it sought to protect its citizens abroad. The US was the first to benefit from the pact, when it successfully sued Iran in The Hague over the American hostage crisis in Tehran in 1979.

However, in recent years the US has been sued under the protocol by Paraguay, Germany and now Mexico. The countries complained that, in defence of the convention, they had not been informed that their citizens were arrested.

The State Department said that defendants could count on “extensive” judicial review in the US, especially in death penalty cases.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-1520461,00.html


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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 03:31 PM
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1. The next dem administration is going to have so much to do.
I hope people are keeping a list...
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 05:11 PM
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4. This is unbelievable. Apparently Americans can forget going anywhere
until, God willing, we get a Democratic President again.

You remember Bush showed absolutely no interest about people in other countries, didn't go outside the country, other than Mexico before assuming the pResidency. No doubt the PNACkers have it planned so the only Americans who will be going anywhere will be our soldiers who go there to "kick butt," and they'll be available in great numbers as our poverty and job shortage grow by leaps and bounds.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 03:40 PM
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2. That is exactly correct. "The blowback to you as an American..."
That goes for all the other U.S. abrogation of international laws and treaties in the past 4 years as well.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 04:16 PM
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3. The sewer stench of Totalitarianism emanates strongly frm Imperial Amerika
Remember when America was free? It seems like a lifetime ago.

I miss Free America so much. But I think there is about a 2% chance that it is coming back from the grave.

Maybe less...
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 10:42 PM
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5. that is the scariest thing I've ever heard
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 06:14 AM
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6. sure is
so if I'm arrested in Germany for a traffic violation and have some problems and want the help of a US Consul, Germany has no obligation to contact consulate?????....it's up to the people I'm dealing with whether or not they want to notify consulate because I'm having some problems??????
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 11:25 AM
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7. BrklynLiberal
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
copyrighted news source.


Thank you.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-05 01:18 PM
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8. Sorry...will be more careful in the future. Too late to edit at this point
Edited on Sat Mar-12-05 01:20 PM by BrklynLiberal
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