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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:33 PM
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The Democratic leadership buckled under the Schiavo case???
OK -- why did this happen?

It happened, in part, because Democrats -- as is so often the case -- were caught flat-flooted. And why was that? Why did no one in the Democratic Party grasp the fact that right-wingers have rallied around Terri Schiavo, and thus the case was ripe for self-righteous GOP moralizing?

I knew. You know when I did my first post about Terri Schiavo? 2003. Why did I know about her case? Because I pay attention to the hardcore Republican base. I'm a regular lurker at Free Republic and Lucianne.com. I know that's where you can pick up the danger signals. For that matter, I knew the Swift Boat liars were coming a couple of months before their first ad went on the air. It's not rocket science. I knew from FR and Lucianne.

Why the hell does it seem that no one in the Democratic Party does what I do? Why didn't anyone see this coming? Why were no Democrats prepared for this possibility?

Did any Democrat even know the facts of the case before this week? How many Democrats know, even now, that this is hardly an unprecedented case, that Terri Schiavo can't possibly recover, that she won't suffer agony as she dies? Republicans know all the Christian conservative Schiavo talking points. Has any Democrat in D.C. ever even looked at the exhaustive Terri Schiavo information page at Matt Conigliaro's Abstract Appeal to learn the truth about the case?

When Terri Schiavo became Congress's priority #1, Democrats -- as usual -- buckled under pressure. They've just thrown up their hands. From yesterday's New York Times we learned that

http://nomoremister.blogspot.com/2005/03/ok-why-did-this-happen-it-happened-in.html
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:35 PM
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1. Yeah, Bush is going around the country now talking about how the
dems and republicans came together on this. A huge cheer from the crowd. The democracts buckled under and gave Tom Delay what he needed. They knew the polls all around were strongly against the republicans and the dems whoever they were bailed them out.

My money will go elsewhere from here on out. They caved again.
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:46 PM
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6. count me in...
I feel as you do.

NOT ONE DAMNED DIME.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 04:11 PM
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9. Does anyone think the Dems made some kind of a deal to do
this? For the life of me I cannot figure it out.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:40 PM
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2. An abstention would have been appropriate
I can see why they wouldn't want to vote no.

However, Congress has NO BUSINESS in this naked power grab.

I will be voting against my Dem senator. He doesn't deserve the office.
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:40 PM
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3. Teri lives on Medicare, that's next on the Bush hit list....I wonder
if they will make a "special" Medicare plan just for her? :eyes:
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:55 PM
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4. Yes, this question stems from the definition of "life affirming"
for Republicans and Democrats alike. Teri is said to be in a 'vegatative' state. Her heart beats but she is often said to be brain dead.

It used to be that you were 'dead' when your heart stopped; now, are you considered 'alive' as long as there are synapses firing electrically from your brain ?

And with no expenses to be spared in order to save someone's life (however you define it), the moral, ethical, and economic questions are overwhelming.

I pray for the Schaivo and Schindler families.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:08 PM
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5. Excellent point
Why the hell does it seem that no one in the Democratic Party does what I do?

I have long maintained that Dems Congresspeople ought to have at least one intern in their offices whose job it is to monitor DU and perhaps some other blogs. Now I know that they need two.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:56 PM
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7. No more money for the Democratic Party ...
At least from my family. They are going to have to go down in flames before they realize that they are NOT representing the Middle and Working Class Democrats of this country.

I'm sick of the Democratic Party.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 04:09 PM
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8. I should have clarified to you guys, I am not changing my political
beliefs but my money or contributions will go in this order.

1) DU, my home away from home & has the right political persuasion.

2) ACLU, who I believe in highly and do not feel they have ever been
hypocritical in any way.

3) The Nation, one of my favorite mags and they have the right ideas.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 04:58 PM
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10. What the Republicans do is irrelevant
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 04:58 PM by depakid
It's what the Dems do that counts- and right now, the Dems under Reid are bound and determined to sell out EVERY SINGLE ISSUE.

What difference does it make whether one sees tham coming or not? As long as unprincipled cowards are allowed free reign in the party, there's nothing that can be done about it.
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Satara Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:25 PM
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11. So many no shows
I think there was a muted response because Dem leaders are at risk for being labeled as "killers" . There is alot of ProLife political pressure being exerted right now..........It always struck me as odd that some out there think they should get to decide when someone (other than themselves) should live or die.

I am most bothered by what appears to me to be circumventing State Rights and state supreme court rulings b/c my :tinfoilhat: has been picking up "One Party Government" vibes for quite some time. :scared:
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:43 PM
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12. Who the hell cares what Repubs and fundamentalists call them?
I want leaders who don't waffle, who don't give a damn what the detractors say. I want someone who has got the writing on the wall for every single person to see a mile away.

The simple fact of the matter is that the US population strongly disagrees with Congress interjecting itself into this personal affair, and where are our so-called Democratic "leaders"? What's the message they got for us? Because it seems the only clear message I'm getting from anybody is from the Republican side of Congress which is some garbled, twisted, hypocritical, God-forsaken version of "we value life" blaring over and over again.

I want someone who isn't afraid to be called names. Do you care if the person who hates you most calls you a killer?

If you were a black person living in the South in the 1950s, would you give up the idea of going to college because racist white folks say that you are too stupid and mentally inferior to make it? No, you wouldn't care! You'd soldier on regardless of what they said!

Republicans are called a shitload of names, but that didn't stop them from doing what they said they'll do. The "leaders" of Democratic Party are nothing if they cannot even stand up. I want people who can stand and brave the fire, not run off the battlefield at the sound of a pop.
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