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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:26 AM
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An ugly new chapter in the religious wars
By Cathy Young | April 25, 2005

THE PERENNIAL battle over judicial nominations is escalating into a religious war. On April 24, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is set, at the time of this writing, to participate in a ''Justice Sunday" telecast at which America's most prominent evangelical leaders will lambaste the Democrats who are blocking conservative Bush nominees for federal judicial posts. A flier for the event, organized by the Family Research Council, decries ''the filibuster against people of faith," accusing Democrats of an anti-religious bigotry comparable to ''racial bias."

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What if the issue was not abortion? Let's say that a Democratic president had nominated to the federal bench a judge known for passionate, Christian-based hostility to capital punishment. Would it be ''anti-Christian" for Republicans to oppose the nomination? To take an even more ridiculous example: Would it be ''religious bigotry" to oppose the presidential candidacy of a devout Quaker who declared that his policies would be rooted in his religious belief that all use of military force is wrong?

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http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/04/25/an_ugly_new_chapter_in_the_religious_wars/
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:29 AM
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1. Well of course
After all, those aren't real Charistians.

To get a better look at what we are up against, see the video:

Confronting the Judicial War on Faith
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:33 AM
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2. This has nothing to do with Christianity ...
... (as your post indicates) ... this group wants to force their perversion of Christianity on the entire country (probably the entire world). I am really at a loss to understand how a band of crazies have come to wield so much power.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 07:44 AM
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 08:10 AM
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5. WE didn't give them anything
They got this from people who actually buy into their brand of BS.

They don't know what it's like to be attacked, but speaking for myself and a few others, any attempt to usrup the US Constitution, or to create a theocracy, and they'll find out.

History has shown that you don't start an offensive against the sheep, mainly because the only concern that their leaders have for them is purely monetary.

You start at the top, by cutting off the head, or in this case heads,
you kill the beast.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 08:14 AM
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6. That's an insightful statement.
I wonder how many liberal Catholics we'll push to the Republican party or "independent" because of all the religious nastiness rearing its head in the Democratic party?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 08:53 AM
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:12 AM
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8. Bullshit.
The Religious Right has been using "Christianity Under Attack" for some time now. Remember when they were forced to stop saying "Merry Christmas"? Check out websites like Concerned Women for America to see the press releases before they hit your local letters to the editor page.

Some DU'ers have totally understandable problems with one religion or another. Others are born-again atheists, always preaching their lack-of-faith because they're filled with shame at their youthful foolishness. And a few keep ragging on Catholics because they learned to do so as children--not the same as those with adult bones to pick.

I fail to see how any of these groups would convince someone to vote Republican.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:15 AM
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9. LMAO... "Stunned and saddened by the criticism towards the religious"
:eyes: Keep reading, you must be misinterpreting something.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:22 AM
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11. That's buying into the Radical Right's BS
How are Dems pushing the religious to the repubs?

You don't see openly atheist dem candidates. You don't see the party platform condemning religion or trying to define what the "official" religion of the nation is or how followers must vote and behave.

It's the radical right that is not only undermining religious freedom but the mainstream religious community.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:58 AM
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13. I agree with you to the extent that
the religious right is undermining religious freedom, as well as the right to be free _of_ religion. However, I do believe we need every single liberal voter, religious or not religious, we can get in order to counteract Republican election fraud, guilt-mongering, fear-mongering and further dilution of our rights.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:33 AM
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12. I'm not going anywhere...
:shrug: You?

Welcome to DU by the way...and I've never once felt "criticized" to the extreme of which you speak.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 08:04 AM
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4. How did they come to wield so much power? Here's how, partly
Money, fear, and stupidity. That's how they came to wield so much power.

The money that their adherents give them, to build temples, to buy tv and radio stations, to fill their pockets and the pockets of politicians.

Fear, the fear of the ignorant, who are too lazy to read the Bible and depend on soemone else to interpret the word of God.

Stupidity, the brain dead sheep form both blue and red states, north,
south, east and west, those unable to think for themselves, those that have no real idea about what Christ was trying to teach us.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:18 AM
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10. There Aren't Any Pretty Chapters In Religious Wars
and damn few in "non-religious" wars. War is ugly, the ultimate abuse of power, and that's what's been going on here, folks, since forever.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-25-05 09:59 AM
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14. I absolutely agree with you.
And for as long as I can remember, I haven't taken part in actions I believe are wrong, but I've had a lot of luxuries that others haven't had (for example, I'm a woman, so I've never had to think about the draft).
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