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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 09:59 PM
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Robertson's increased senility apparent in CNN Late Edition
Robertson's increased senility apparent in CNN Late Edition Chavez nuke spook!

VHeadline.com editor & publisher Roy S. Carson writes: US televangelist Pat Robertson is showing distinct signs of advanced senility in his latest rabble-rousing on Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez Frias. Ranting again on CNN's Late Edition program, Robertson now says that "this man (Chavez) is setting up a Marxist-type dictatorship in Venezuela." Letting off more steam, the millionaire Bible-basher claims that "he (Chavez) is trying to spread Marxism throughout South America ... he is negotiating with the Iranians to get nuclear material ... and he also sent US$1.2 million in cash to Osama bin Laden right after 9/11."

No matter that the latter statement has been categorically proved to be untrue, Robertson -- who only recently called for President Hugo Chavez assassination -- says that Chavez "poses a nuclear threat to the United States." Big deal! The only operative nuclear reactor in Venezuela is factually a mini-moke located at the Venezuelan Science & Technology Institute (IVIC) near Caracas ... for 'peaceful' research into medical dangers inherent in dental X-rays... Naturally, Christian (?) Broadcasting Network executive Robertson "declined to say how he had learned of the accusations he was making ... saying only that he was passing along information he had received" however, on air, he did back-track on his earlier tirade and said he does not believe "Mr. Chavez should be killed" but that he is "a problem that should be dealt with."

"One day we are going to be staring at nuclear weapons ... and it will not be Katrina facing New Orleans ... it is going to be a Venezuelan nuke. So my suggestion was, is it not a lot cheaper, sometimes, to deal with these problems before you have to have a big war?" The Bush administration will now have to again deny any connection between the Bush family's favorite propagandist and already-developed CIA contingency plans to remove President Chavez from power by fair means or foul ... undoubtedly a White House spokesman will again trot out meaningless platitudes that Robertson's latest tirade "in no way reflects United States policy..."


Meanwhile, first reactions from the Venezuelan government are subdued, reflecting an obvious understanding of Robertson's advanced senility although reactions to his August assassination call had described the remarks as "criminal and a form of terrorism." True to form, however, the Bush administration is unlikely to take action against the Christian Broadcasting terrorist although in an amusing parallel, another US radio personality is facing criminal charges under the so-called Patriot Act for having paralleled the Robertson debacle in August with her own call for someone to step up to the plate and assassinate George W. Bush instead.
http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=46309
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:01 PM
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1. What is it with Pat and Chavez
Methinks he has a crush on him
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 01:20 PM
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17. I suspect that Pat tried to get a piece of the oil action and Chavez
stiffed him. Pat doesn't take rejection well.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:15 PM
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18. Ah, of course
Thank you for that bit of insight. :thumbsup:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:02 PM
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2. Glad You Watched Him.`
I can't stomach the wacko! He and a few others should be banned from all forms of media.

Thanks for the insight!
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:14 PM
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4. I don't agree with banning.
Let the world see the "heart" of the Christian Right. Dark, evil, and confused.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:44 PM
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14. You're Right, Erika.
Right out in the open, for all to see.

:thumbsup:
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bonzotex Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:13 PM
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3. my god, he's really lost it....
Sad that anyone can be so self-deluded. It's even sadder that people watch his show and think they are getting anything like facts or good advice.
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KLF44 Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:14 PM
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5. Naturally, Christian (?) Broadcasting Network executive Robertson
Edited on Sun Oct-09-05 10:15 PM by KLF44
"declined to say how he had learned of the accusations he was making ... saying only that he was passing along information he had received"




I know God did not give him the information because God is to busy telling King George what to do.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:19 PM
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6. Another Leak?
:eyes:
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:20 PM
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7. What worries me is that Dobson, Robertson, and
Falwell, along with Perkins and Colsen, have a history of meeting regularly with both Congress, the Senate, and the Administration via two orgs.: the Council for National Policy and the Arlington Group (google - lots of info.).

What is Pat is getting senile, but Pat has also been told something similar - it is just that he did not keep quiet about it?
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:40 PM
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11. wonder who Ashcroft has been talking to?
the CNP should be the poster child for reason to reform IRS 501(c)(3) tax rules (meeting in secret indeed) ...

and, an excellent candidate as Robertson's source ...


the CNP ... the confluence where corporate america meets
Dominionists (Howard Ahmanson, the Diebold/ES&S seed money), and whatever category one puts (traitors,crooks) Scaife, Bauer, North,(Oliver and Gary), etc.

Not familiar with the Arlington Group. thanks for mentioning them

Is Ashcroft doing lunch with Pat as part of his new role as a professor at Regent University? Is he Pat's messenger?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-03-16-ashcroft-teach_x.htm

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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:05 PM
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13. Interesting.
Good points you made.

As to your questions, I know that I'm not going to like the answers.

These guys are 'thick as thieves.' Isn't that the expression?

They are always plotting an planning how to shove their theocracy down my throat ... a sort of combination theocracy and fascist government.

And, yes, the 501-c-3 statuses of the CNP and Focus on the Family should be revoked.

The CNP got in trouble because membership is supposed to be more open with the tax exempt status ... as in the public should have access; instead, one has to be invited to be a member, and it is very secretive. They got in trouble because they were supposed to publish information for the public, and they hadn't been doing that adequately.

Dobson had to create Focus on the Family Action (a political/social-welfare org, 501-c-4), because he was being criticized for using FOF resources to be a one-man political machine. Still, he is being investigated for using the C-3's magazine, Citizen Link, while allegedly sounding very political in one article.

Ashcroft is a 'professor' at Regent?

:puke:
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 03:16 PM
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20. Also, alas, he has a son/heir, does Robertson, apparently the spitting
image of his daddy, except perhaps without the Rogaine and Clairol for Men. or, as much of, anyway.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:32 PM
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8. Geez people - GOD told him!
:eyes:
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nvliberal Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:34 PM
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9. Robertson is not senile.
He's always been a crackpot.
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:37 PM
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10. Crackpots are susceptible
Edited on Sun Oct-09-05 10:49 PM by wicasa
to senility too. Actually, I think they may well be more susceptible to senility.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:59 PM
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12. General paresis of the insane
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_paresis_of_the_insane

Originally, the cause was believed to be an inherent weakness of character or constitution. While Esmarch and Jessen had asserted as early as 1857 that syphilis caused general paresis, progress toward the general acceptance by the medical community of this idea was only accomplished later by the eminent nineteenth-century syphilographer Alfred Fournier (1832-1914). In 1913 all doubt about the syphilitic nature of paresis was finally eliminated when Noguchi and Moore demonstrated the syphillitic spirochaetes in the brains of paretics.

In 1917 Julius Wagner-Jauregg discovered that infecting paretic patients with malaria could halt the progression of general paresis. He won a Nobel Prize for this discovery in 1927. After World War II the use of penicillin to treat syphilis made general paresis a rarity: even patients manifesting early symptoms of actual general paresis were capable of full recovery with a course of penicillin. The disorder is now virtually unknown outside Third World countries, and even there the epidemiology is substantially reduced.

pretty unlikely, but, it would follow in the train of so many tele-evangelists.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:02 AM
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15. I don't think he's a crackpot, instead he is the person who has more power
than you're giving him credit for. He is the person who is trying to beef up the fundies and Republicans into going after Chavez.

Nope...sorry...he's their mouthpiece and he's got inside people using his power to stay on message while we go "oh...he's crazy" they're building the foundation for the next war.
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demobrit Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 10:06 AM
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16. Who does this man speak for?
He may speak for the republicans but he is not speaking for the Lord our God
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 10:28 AM
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19. not to us he doesn't because we're sane.
but the fundies only chose to believe in the exterior posturing and do not look deeper into his actions.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 04:25 PM
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21. What a Liar...senile or not!
The pathetic thing is he has followers who are just as senile.
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