Pat Buchanan: The End of the imperial project

Pat's latest take on Bush and Iraq:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35087

Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld is bitter over the way Condi Rice leaked word the National Security Council would be big-footing his Pentagon to take over the management of Iraq.

The State Department is having a hellish time persuading the United Nations to support a U.S. resolution that might bring in U.N. troops and aid.

Republicans are balking at the White House request for $20 billion for reconstruction. Democrats are painting Iraq as a disaster bred of White House hubris and Bush unilateralism. U.S. forces are being daily hit with mining, bombing and sniping attacks. And half the nation is now dissatisfied with President Bush's handling of Iraq.

In Baghdad, radical Shiites appear to be edging toward a clash with U.S. occupation forces. And at the Islamic summit in Malaysia, Prime Minister Mahatir Mohamad has called on Muslim countries to evict the United States from Iraq.

agreeing with buchanan!

uses logic and sense to form and express his opinions. I might not agree (and most often don't) but hearing an intelligent person expressing an opinion with his or her own reason and not "dittoness" is refreshing these days.

... when something as horrendous as the Bush administration comes on the scene, half-way reasonable people from both sides of the aisle will eventually realize that there is a buffoon at the helm and stand up for common sense and in opposition to insanity.

folk. Welcome here and please stay long.

....or is that "megadoses"? Anyway, I think we should put our differences aside when it comes to the True Conservatives" like Pat and the "Paleolibertarians" like Perot. They are American Patriots, just like us. They're not trying to start wars and kill foreigners, and they're not trying to loot the treasury and give to the rich.

They want to be left alone to simply argue with people like US. We're not always right, they're not always right. We agree to disagree; we don't agree that we should be marginalized and wiped from the face of the earth for being "traitors".

Alliance, I say. Strange times make for strange bedfellows. Unite, and defeat the Dark Side of the BFEE. Unite! Show them why we're the UNITED STATES once more.

'Just imagine how loving and peaceful the world would be if every ethnic/racial and religious group had their own pure, clearly-defined territory.'

Remember children, immigration and 'mixing' just cause strife.
:dunce:

I think they want an alliance with us. I really do. And I think we should do it. Just this one time.

We all know that Patrick can say some very disagreeable things, but it's hard to take issue with him here:

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The mistake Reagan made in Lebanon was not in pulling out, but in going in. There was no vital U.S. interest in Beirut, no threat to our security. The same was true of Somalia. When we moved beyond giving food to starving Somalis to deciding what warlord should rule in Mogadishu, we intervened in a civil war and paid the inevitable price.

Whether Iraq is a democracy or dictatorship isn't our concern. Our concern should be: Does Iraq threaten America's vital interests? Before our invasion, we now know, it did not.

But, like a bad marriage, the mistake was going in, in the first place, and now, there is no easy way out. If we pull out, Iraq could become a failed state and a haven for Islamic warriors. If we stay and fight, we may be plunging into an endless or unwinnable war.

Somewhere, Osama bin Laden is saying to himself, "Mission accomplished."

for the full article:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34598