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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:12 PM
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Just Googling It Is Striking Fear Into Companies
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/06/technology/06google.html?ex=1288933200&en=382239f45e5a64bd&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Wal-Mart, the nation's largest retailer, often intimidates its competitors and suppliers. Makers of goods from diapers to DVD's must cater to its whims. But there is one company that even Wal-Mart eyes warily these days: Google, a seven-year-old business in a seemingly distant industry.

"We watch Google very closely at Wal-Mart," said Jim Breyer, a member of Wal-Mart's board.

In Google, Wal-Mart sees both a technology pioneer and the seed of a threat, said Mr. Breyer, who is also a partner in a venture capital firm. The worry is that by making information available everywhere, Google might soon be able to tell Wal-Mart shoppers if better bargains are available nearby.

Wal-Mart is scarcely alone in its concern. As Google increasingly becomes the starting point for finding information and buying products and services, companies that even a year ago did not see themselves as competing with Google are beginning to view the company with some angst - mixed with admiration.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:13 PM
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1. Walmart has bigger problems then Google. Petroleum Scarcity Will Make
the plastic crap filling their aisles astronomically expensive both to produce and to transport.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:17 PM
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3. Hey good point..
I know that's coming, but I forget about it and focus on all these other things...and its kind of a jolt when I remember that petroleum scarcity is going to effect EVERYTHING.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:40 PM
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7. Did you know that Wal-mart is building container ships ?
...to bring all that consumer trash from China?? Maybe they ought to buy sailing vessels.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:29 PM
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15. Are you kidding?
I always thought whoever owns all this resource rich trash will be rich one day, but that's crazy.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 08:08 PM
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11. You are correct
I've been wondering how this will effect recycling of plastic products. Will we have people in rural areas, where they don't currently offer curb recycling, now bringing in their used beverage bottles for the coinage just like they do their aluminum?

I'd be glad to see the cheap plastic parts in products that used to be steel, brass or another long lasting material, gone for good. Imagine if the average consumer could actually buy things that last longer than the warranty again.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:14 PM
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2. Good
:-) this makes me smile
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:23 PM
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4. Soon, Employees of Corps won't be allowed to Google... Even at home.
Just like some Employees of some corporations aren't allowed to associate outside of work.

Just wait and see it happen.
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mark0rama Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:30 PM
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6. Wow.
I'm not completely surprised by this, but do you have an example or two of corporations whose employees aren't allowed to associate? Or if you don't want to be so specific, can you at least tell us what industry(ies) are known for this?

Thanks.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:56 PM
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8. Here is something to that effect
http://www.ilcaonline.org/print.php?sid=2094

I can't believe I can't find the exact thing I mentioned, I could have sworn that I had seen it before.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:59 PM
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9. I found it
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 08:01 PM
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10. Wal-Mart
is notorious for its non fraternization policies. Can't date or socialize with those above or below you in the company hierarchy. I have family in NW Arkansas and am well aware that folks who work for Wally World are very careful not to show any sign of any possible disloyalty. That means they don't shop at competitors stores and family members don't work for competitors. Among other considerations.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 08:33 PM
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12. so they spend almost all their wages at Wal-Mart?
Soon they'll be spending their health-care dollars at Wal-Mart too. Then Wal-Mart can build some cheap housing on top of the store or next to it - rent it out to employees only. soon they can be the old company town style again. How swell. No one will get paid enough to ever get out of the Martville. Then of course their be the Wal-Mart schools to send the kids to. Where does this stop?
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 08:42 PM
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13. It doesn't ever stop. Walmart will build a company town, rule
everyone's lives, and shoot you if you dare to have a union uprising. Been done before.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 09:02 PM
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14. How long 'til they issue their own internal currency?
This company is a fascist dream come true, and please don't anyone say that's exaggeration, this is a rule by fear totalitarian enterprise.

There is no reason why Wal-mart couldn't be structured as a product supply logistics service. All the stores could be locally owned and locally branded, keeping the profits localy circulating. Wal-mart could fund store development in return for a contract specifying that Wal-Mart logistics is sole supplier of all goods sold, be a purely invisible wholesale operation. But no... they have to control everything from end to end, right down to the lives of it's meagerly paid employees.

This is not a good development for human society, even republicans should recognize that wal-mart is the greatest "planned economy" in the world. If the Communists had had access to the IT capabilities of wal-mart, central planning efforts might have worked.

Freedom is not the freedom to choose from three different types on a shelf.
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:03 AM
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16. remember Pullman??

In the 1880s George Pullman built the town of Pullman near Lake Calumet to manufacture his famous railway sleeping cars. All buildings in the town were company owned and rented to workers, churches and stores. The town and surrounding areas were annexed to Chicago in 1889.

The company cut wages a number of times in the 1880s and '90s, but failed to reduce the rent in the company owned housing. This double squeeze lead to dire economic circumstances for the workers. Workers struck the car works May 11, 1894. By late June sympathetic railway workers had agreed to boycott trains carrying Pullman cars nationwide. Federal troops were called in to keep the trains moving and to break the strike, prompting violence and looting in Chicago. With the arrest of the leaders in Chicago, the strike collapsed, and workers returned August 2, 1894.

This strike is widely regarded as being pivotal in labor history. Issues raised included a national rail strike, the use of federal troops and company towns.




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Baconfoot Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 07:24 PM
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5. Gee why would Wal-Mart worry?I thought we already had perfect information?
</sarcasm>
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 09:04 AM
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17. how stupid
Edited on Sun Nov-06-05 09:05 AM by Rich Hunt
It's as if they never saw this coming.

They have no one to blame but themselves.

Corporations are afraid of the free market - who would have thunk??

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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 10:36 AM
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18. Consumers Will Have "Perfect Information"
When the Economics textbooks talk about the great free market system, they always assume that every consumer has "perfect information." This means the consumer knows everything about the quality of various products and the prices offered. Maybe google will help achieve this.

I know I have saved a fortune with some of the price comparison websites, such as on yahoo.com, and the used books on amazon.com.
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