Has this been posted yet? (Rove may be indicted-Truthout)

Fitzgerald Targets Rove Again
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Investigative Report

Monday 28 November 2005

Continuing his two-year-old investigation into the leak of Valerie Plame Wilson's identity as a covert CIA agent, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald will present evidence to a second grand jury this week that could lead to a criminal indictment being handed up against Karl Rove, President Bush's deputy chief of staff, sources inside the investigation said over the weekend.

For the past month, Rove has remained under intense scrutiny by Fitzgerald's office. During that time Fitzgerald, according to these sources, has acquired evidence that Rove tried to cover up his role in the leak by withholding crucial facts from investigators and the grand jury on three separate occasions, beginning in October 2003, about a conversation he had with Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper, as well as not being truthful about the reasons that call was not logged by his office.

Rove's conversation with Cooper took place a week or so before Plame Wilson's identity was first revealed, in a July 14, 2003, column published by conservative journalist Robert Novak. Cooper had written his own story about Plame Wilson a few days later.

During previous testimony before the grand jury, Rove said he first learned Plame Wilson's name from reporters - specifically, from Novak's column - and only after her name was published did he discuss Plame Wilson's CIA status with other journalists. That sequence of events, however, as described by Rove during his grand jury testimony, has turned out not to be true, and his reasons for not being forthcoming have not convinced Fitzgerald that Rove had a momentary lapse, according to sources.

Still, Robert Luskin, Rove's lawyer, maintains that his client has not intentionally withheld facts from the prosecutor or the grand jury but had simply forgotten about his conversations with Cooper, the sources said....(more at link)

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/112805Z.shtml

... that perjury was illegal.

call with Matt Cooper (about Valerie Plame, in 7/03) certainly points to his possible awareness that what he was doing was illegal. I've been trying to fit his actions with (I think it was) Joe Wilson's report that Rove blew up at somebody in the White House (Libby, was it?) for putting him in jeopardy (setting him up for the fall?). I made a wild guess that maybe they had gone so far, in setting Rove up, as to have a lawyer deliberately misinform him on the legality of identifying Plame, and that that may be what Rove told Fitzgerald, which caused Fitzgerald to delay Rove's indictment. I was thinking of Harriet Miers at the time (WH counsel, former WH ass't chief of staff, Bush toady), and her withdrawal from the Sup Ct nomination a day or two before Fitzgerald's press conference on the Libby indictment, and Fitzgerald's visit to Bush's Traitorgate attorney that morning (the only way he could convey info to Bush, according to lawyerly protocol).

An interesting tidbit in this article: S. Ralston was Abramoff's personal secretary prior to working for Rove (proper training for Bush's WH, it seems to me), and in that role "communicated with Rove on Abramoff's behalf on tribal affairs." I'm hoping someone will make the link among Rove, Abramoff and Rep. Bob Ney on Ney's sponsorship of the HAVA boondoggle for Bushite electronic voting machine companies (our new, private election system, with "trade secret" software and no paper trail). HAVA came up as the bill into which they wanted Ney to dump a tribal favor (that's how they shook down the tribe). Ney didn't do that particular favor, but I'm much more interested in who got shook down, bribed, lavishly lobbied, etc., in the corruption of our election system, and, of course, in the uses that that corrupt election system were put to, in 2004.

This article also reports that Fitzgerald recently interviewed another Time mag reporter, Viveca Novak, about her conversation with Rove's ATTORNEY, Luskin (in May '04).

What could have been going down between a reporter and Rove's ATTORNEY in May '04, that would interest Fitzgerald?

In any case, it looks like Fitzgerald is set to indict Rove for lying, and if he does, we will have TWO Bushite liars under public and court scrutiny for what we all know to be true of everyone in Bush's White House, from Bush on down: that they lie and lie and lie and lie, that every word that comes out of their mouths is a lie, that they lie for breakfast, lunch, dinner and for snacks in between, and then go home to bed and lie in their dreams.

they lie when they drink, too. They lie when they walk, skip, trot, run, sit, ride, fly, stand and pass kidney stones. That's all they know how to do.

"S. Ralston was Abramoff's personal secretary prior to working for Rove"?
Can you say "nepotism" boys and girls?

is that possible. It seems that in their dreams they say that we'll be greeted as liberators.......and it's true. What else are dreams good for.

Here's an vision I had in a nightmare.

Is he that happy-go-lucky fella with the portly look? Always seemed to be in the background of a Bush photo-op?

He does seem sort of snake oil salesmanish.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

pnorman

If he should be indicted and convicted, I'll have to call in sick to work so I can stay home and giggle while I watch fat ass in handcuffs on TV. . . .