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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:45 PM
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A Nation Under God-One of the scariest articles you will ever read
From Mother Jones

News: Let others worry about the rapture: For the increasingly powerful Christian Reconstruction movement, the task is to establish the Kingdom of God right now—from the courthouse to the White House.

By John Sugg

TRINITY CHAPEL in suburban Atlanta’s Cobb County is hardly the picture of a revolutionary outpost. It’s a stylishly modern Church of God—a denomination that, though conservative, is certainly mainstream. Parishioners are drawn from a community whose average income is a comfortable 35 percent above the national norm, whose tree-lined country roads intersect McMansion subdivisions. If Norman Rockwell were painting suburban sprawl, he’d likely pick Cobb County.

On a Friday last April, Trinity’s parking lot filled with SUVs and luxury sedans as about 400 faithful gathered inside the sanctuary. The church was host to Restore America, a rally to “celebrate faith and patriotism” sponsored by Christian publisher American Vision. In the lobby, neatly blue-blazered youths were hawking So Help Me God, Roy Moore’s account of his dethroning as chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court. Tables were piled with textbooks for homeschoolers, tomes denouncing evolution, booklets waxing nostalgic for the antebellum South. That afternoon the congregants, who’d come to the conference from conservative churches around the region, would hear from Sadie Fields, president of Georgia’s Christian Coalition, and they’d sway in rhythm as country crooner Steve Vaus sang “We Must Take America Back.”


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The Old Testament—with its 600 or so Mosaic laws—is the inflexible guide for the society DeMar and other Reconstructionists envision. Government posts would be reserved for the righteous, as long as they are male. There would be thousands of executions a year, with stoning a preferred method because it would turn the deaths into “community projects,” as movement theologian North has noted. Sinners in line for the death penalty would include women who commit adultery or lie about their virginity, blasphemers, witches, children who strike their parents, and gay men (lesbians, however, would be spared because no specific reference to them can be found in the Books of Moses). DeMar told me that among Reconstructionists he is considered something of a liberal, because he’d execute gays only if they were caught indulging in sodomy. “I’m happy to just drive them back into the closet,” he said.

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The old left—the Communist Party and its many splinters—used organizing tactics called popular fronts, in which people were recruited through specific causes into a movement tacitly guided by the Party. Reconstruction has married those Leninist tactics to the causes of the right—abortion, evolution, gay marriage, school prayer. Gary North wrote in 1982, in an effort to reach Baptists,“We must use the doctrine of religious liberty…until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy constructing a Bible-based social, political, and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God.” Nowhere at the Restore America rally did anyone hoist a banner for Reconstruction; those attending came to develop a united front supporting such things as displaying the Ten Commandments in public buildings. But they were also introduced—and recruited—to the broader program.

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more....

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2005/12/a_nation_under_god.html
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:53 PM
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1. Oh, goodie, we can look forward to these biblical marriage edicts
Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women.
(Gen 29:17-28 and II Sam 3:2-5)

Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines in addition to his wife or wives.
(II Sam 5:13 and I Kings 11:3 and II Chron 11:21)

A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed.
(Deut 22: 13-21)

Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden.
(Gen. 24:3 and Num 25:1-9 and Ezra 9:12 and Neh 10:30)

Since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any State shall be construed to permit divorce.
(Deut 22:19 and Mark 10 )

If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his sister-in-law, or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law.
(Gen 38:6-10 and Deut 25:5-10)

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 01:59 PM
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2. It will be very interesting to see just how literally they will take the
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 02:01 PM by BrklynLiberal
bible when it comes to those rules. As usual, they only use the rules that serve their purposes.
I heard the author on a radio interview. He said they were serving a pork barbecue at one of their "meetings". When he brought up the fact that the bible condemned the eating of pork, they had no answer for that. Hypocrisy, as usual.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:07 PM
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3. Right, I wonder if anyone has explained to Mrs. Dominionist
that she's going to have to start ironing bedsheets and forget about pork, not to mention telling Mr. Dominionist that football is forbidden since the balls should be constructed of pig skin or tell them that no more cheeseburgers will ever be made and that they can't even butter their Parker House rolls when meat is on the menu.

I doubt any of them has read the full list of prohibitions of things they take for granted.

Why do the people who want to recreate Paradise only succeed in creating hell?
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:11 PM
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4. I was reading something about the bible and nudity
Apparently nudity is not condemned by the bible (bathing Christians, rejoice!). Come on out, Lola! Senator Lott would like you to dance for him! No, no, don't bother Ashcroft with those, he doesn't like tits....
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:23 PM
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5. I don't care if they control every government position from traffic cop
on up, any attempt to enforce their extreme beliefs is going to result in a one way guided tour of guillotine mechanics - and that's a promise.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 02:31 PM
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6. OK, but just don't expect me to stay here and pay the bill.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:32 PM
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7. This is why history should be required from 1st grade through 12th.
"Rushdoony, who died in 2001, articulated a doctrine called “presuppositionalism.” All issues are religious in nature, he posited, and people don’t have the right or the ability to define for themselves what’s true; for that they must turn to a literal reading of the Bible."

It is as if we never had a Revolutionary War. One question of mine is, if the people don't have the right or the ability to define for themselves what's true, then how do they know their literal reading of the bible is true?
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:37 PM
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8. Shockingly True
I was raised in fundamentalist churches like this. As a kid I heard this stuff and found nothing wrong with it. However, as I matured I realized that something was terribly wrong with what we were being told. I heard things like putting God at the head of our government. The idea of bringing back Biblical law. Then I begin to notice the staggering inconsistencies and the hypocrisy. For a time that turned me into an atheist, but much like I later realized in the army, it wasn't the organization's doctrine that was the problem; it was the people within it and how they interpreted the information. It is hard to believe even that sometimes as I read and reflect on an article like this. America is in a whole hell of a lot of trouble, because, like it or not, these are the people who are now in power. That power is growing as we speak...
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deacon2 Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:44 PM
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10. "That power is growing as we speak..."
Indeed. I have a formerly rational friend who has succumbed to this insanity. He babbles on now about "America needs to bow down to its true king, Jesus" and so on. These are the new Calvinists. They are so in control of the government now that they are exiting with a "Mission Accomplished" attitude and taking over Ford and other companies to do their damndest. I don't know whether to laugh or head to Calvary... I mean Calgary.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-06-05 03:38 PM
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9. DUPE n/t
Edited on Tue Dec-06-05 03:39 PM by Stand and Fight
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 04:02 PM
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11. I'll have to read from this on my show.
The topic this week is Christmas.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 02:43 AM
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12. Check out TheocracyWatch.org who are tracking this and other groups
Please read and pass it on. Too many people think these guys are just anoyances when they actually want to take over like the Taliban did Afghanistan. Only instead of beheadings it will be stoning of everyone they dislike from astrologers to non-virgin brides. And just like the Moonies these groups have close ties with the GOP to further their agenda.
http://www.theocracywatch.org
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:39 AM
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13. This is why every brick in Jefferson's wall must be preserved
Here on DU, there are angry reactions to stories about atheists trying to stop small erosions of the wall of separation. The enemy realizes how important the removal of even the smallest brick is. We have to realize that, too.
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:57 AM
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14. That is truly some scary shit. They are retrogressing at the
speed of light. Next thing you know they'll be condoning slavery on some damn biblical pretext.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 01:54 PM
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15. So, they're gonna keep Kosher...
and close their stores on Saturday? No driving or grass mowing on the Sabbath?

All the women wear long dresses and wigs and the men in their rabbi hocks?

Nah... they're already picking and choosing what OT laws to obey, and if they get wind of no more pig ribs or crawdads...

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