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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:17 AM
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It is Not Acceptable to be a Republican Anymore
This is the first time I've heard of this guy - who also is part of a radio show called "The Young Turks" Anyone listen to him, comments?

I am growing more and more disgusted by anyone who remains a Republican anymore. We find out today that many of the false intelligence claims the administration made to get us into Iraq came from a man we tortured. It turns Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, one of the top al-Qaeda lieutenants we captured, made up stories about an al-Qaeda link to Iraq just so that we would stop torturing him.
Of course, he did. This is why every military officer they asked told the administration not to use torture -- because it is unreliable!

Technically, we didn't do the torturing here because we handed over al-Libi to the Egyptians so they could torture him. There is absolutely no difference there. There is only one reason in the world why we would hand over our top prisoner at that time to another country. Do you think it's because the Egyptians have a more sophisticated intelligence gathering apparatus? Do you think it's because the Egyptian justice system is better equipped to handle top level detainees?

The latest excuse the administration is using is pathetic. Egypt has a better grasp of the language and culture of these detainees. Al-Libi was the most senior al-Qaeda figure we had caught up until then. We couldn't find one translator in the whole United States of America who was up to the job? This administration couldn't find one person who was knowledgeable enough about Middle Eastern culture to interrogate our top detainee? If you're a Republican still going along with this bullshit, are you really this shockingly stupid and gullible?

(snip)

Torture is un-American. Wars of aggression, besides being war crimes, are un-American. Lying to the American people and to the world so that you can invade and occupy a country that didn't attack us is un-American. Believing the Egyptian justice system is better than the American justice system is un-American. Causing the deaths of tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians (those are real people, real kids, real families just like your own) and thousands of American soldiers based on lies acquired through torture is un-American.

And if you still don't get this, you sicken me.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/it-is-not-acceptable-to-b_b_11966.html
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:25 AM
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1. Respectable Republicans have left the party.
Only the clueless and criminal are left.
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RogueBandit Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:51 AM
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3. Great bumper sticker
Respectable Republicans have left the party

Kinda like "Elvis has left the building"
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:49 AM
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4. Hi RogueBandit!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 01:32 AM
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2. I'm against torture, too, but it's ahistorical to act as if it's a new
issue, and the Republicans who supported Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush weren't supporting administrations which promoted regimes which use torture, including Saddam's and the repressive government of El Salvador.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 08:08 PM
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5. I agree
republicans used to just annoy me; now they absolutely digust me - they make me sick. I consider them traitors to America.
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