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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 06:04 PM
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Analysis: U.S. Preparing for Iraq Exit
Analysis: U.S. Preparing for Iraq Exit

Sunday December 25, 2005 10:32 PM


AP Photo NY110

By ROBERT BURNS

AP Military Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - At every stop on his three-day tour of Iraq, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld sent a similar message: The U.S. military is not rushing to get out, but it is getting out, nevertheless.

In his public appearances with U.S. soldiers and commanders, as well as with Iraqi officials, Rumsfeld emphasized the positive - an elected Iraqi government is being formed under a new constitution, and Iraq's own soldiers and police are shouldering more of the security duties.

In other words, the U.S. military is getting out.

That doesn't mean Rumsfeld believes the Iraqis are yet capable of making it on their own. There is still the potential for civil war, and a resilient and deadly insurgency is still alive. But it explains Rumsfeld's frequent assertion that success in Iraq will be decided by the Iraqis.

It also explains why Rumsfeld and his commanders are now scaling back the U.S. presence in Iraq by canceling the deployment of two Army brigades that had been scheduled to deploy in coming weeks. Fewer U.S. combat troops are needed because the Iraqis will be doing more of the fighting.

``We'll keep passing off responsibility to them,'' as Rumsfeld put it more than once while in Iraq.


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http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-5503484,00.html
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 06:12 PM
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1. So they stopped building those 14 bases in Iraq? The cement shortage
is over?
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 06:15 PM
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2. Have to free those troops up for IRAN?
.... reading the tea leaves.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 06:30 PM
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3. A new American military strategy.
When you can't find the man who is supposed to have been the mastermind of an attack on your country invade another country. When that country appears become a hopeless mess with no progress attack another country that may become a greater mess.

Sounds like an old Uncle Remus story.
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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 06:46 PM
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4. B...I...N...G...O...
B...I...N...G...O...*

B...I...N...G...O...

and B...I...N...G...O...was his name, the ho.


* BINGO = Bastard is Now Going On (to Iran/Syria)
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 06:48 PM
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5. "....success in Iraq will be decided by the Iraqis" ...
personal responsibility ... Republican style
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 06:48 PM
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6. 2006 election spin......
These troop withdrawl statements are teasers for 2006. The numbers will always be suspect because the BFEE owns the media. Absolute BS!!!!!!!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 06:50 PM
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7. They'll call it, The New Freedom Initiative...in Iran and Syria
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 07:15 PM
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8. The United States has been militarily defeated on Rumsfeld's watch.
His cakewalk is over. It is well that he face facts and have history judge him, although it is impossible at this point that history will be kind.

The Neocons are, in fact, miserable failures. They have destroyed more than one country and events are far beyond their control. I would laugh but I, like everyone else in the country, am a victim. These people make Nicolas II look competant.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 10:58 PM
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12. If a Democrat makes it in 2008.
They will try to lay defeat on the Democrats. That is their only exit strategy a "Bay of Pigs" on steroids.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 02:16 AM
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13. I'd call it a political defeat, not a military one n/t
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 08:18 PM
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9. republicans draw down
but democrats cut and run.........will the word games ever stop?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 08:50 PM
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10. Perhaps Democrats should be talking about the danger to the
region that Bushco has created, how this withdrawal is in no way a victory.

The amorphous message from Democrats probably will enable Bushco in the long run....they should be educating the public about the greater mess and snatch away any "victory lap" for 2006 and beyond.

But no...they'll deliver contadictory messages and let the Republicans paint them into a corner...



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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-25-05 10:54 PM
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11. You hit the salient point "no way to victory".
There is no objective to win and no criteria for victory. To do so you would have to repopulate the region or create allies. At some point the rest of the world will have to say "NO".

Bushco is a danger to the entire world. There is no possible winning strategy in Iraq or Iran. 50 years of American meddling has created the mess and military hardware will not solve it.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 03:59 AM
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14. bullshit. They want the appearance of a withdrawal, but permanent bases
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