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maha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:11 PM
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Joe Conason: Ralph Nader en route to "Jonestown"

The Greens have realized -- somewhat belatedly -- that the Bush presidency is unhealthy for their vital planetary concerns and probably shouldn't continue for a second term. According to Micah Sifry's report in the Nation, some Greens worry about the consequences of another Ralph Nader campaign next year -- and others even doubt the wisdom of any third-party presidential campaign in 2004 at all.

Sifry quotes several prominent Greens on the topic, including media analyst and Nader friend Robert McChesney, who expressed his fears quite bluntly:

"I don't think Ralph should run. It would be bad for him personally; I doubt he would get half the number of votes he got in 2000. And it would be bad for the Greens ... Core elements of progressive constituencies, exactly the groups that the Greens need to build upon, will revolt with open contempt -- far worse than 2000 -- to anything that helps keep Bush in office ... Running a presidential candidate in 2004 for the Greens is probably a quantum leap off a cliff. It is the Greens' Jonestown."

Others in the Green Party are dissatisfied with Nader for less cosmic reasons, such as his refusal to actually join the party, his failure to reach out to minorities, and his alleged hoarding of his contributor lists. This alienation from the former standard-bearer has encouraged a potential challenger to Nader for the Green nomination. The party's general counsel, David Cobb, has promised not only to share his donor lists, but also to "withdraw from the race if either Dennis Kucinich or Al Sharpton is the Democratic nominee." (That's certainly a reassuring platform -- but what's wrong with Carole Moseley-Braun?)

(This is a Salon article. If you are not a subscriber you'll have to register for a day pass. Click on

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2003/11/07/greens/index.html

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:20 PM
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1. Not at all different than the Dean Koolaid
drink up, everyone.
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ex_jew Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-07-03 09:46 PM
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2. Oh I get it now !
Dean should withdraw as Democratic candidate because he might spoil Nader's chances as a Green. Dean is the FRONT-RUNNER ! Whose chances are you suggesting he'll spoil ?
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maha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 08:14 AM
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3. Maybe both parties should just evaporate
and let Saint Ralph have the ballots to himself. He might have a shot at winning then.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-03 08:44 AM
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4. Nader Comments on Dean
I believe I heard it myself, from Nader's lips that if Dean, or Kucinich, or perhaps Sharpton, or Braun get elected, that he won't run. This was months ago, but I am in agreement that he won't get as many votes this time. I voted Green in Alabama (only because our fool-laden poor state has many of those with the Dixie Flag racist voting, if not the actual flag) and the polls were showing the party of savage capitalism was leading by ten points. So I should know, I'd never vote Green, unless Kerry, Clark, or Lieberman get the nomination. I could stomach all of the rest of the current crop of fine Democrats.
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