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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 09:51 AM
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Jonah Goldberg denies Global Warming Problem) Seeing red over 'green scare
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-goldberg20apr20,0,881979.story?track=tottext

Seeing red over 'green scare'

Jonah Goldberg April 20, 2006

MEET AL GORE, scaremonger. In 2004, Gore denounced President Bush for "playing on our fears." Today, he is at the forefront of a "green scare" about global warming intended to terrify Americans into submitting to his environmental policies.

Consider the trailer for "An Inconvenient Truth," Davis Guggenheim's documentary about Gore's green crusade. It promises to be the most adept piece of scaremongering ever captured on film, making "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" seem like "Toy Story 2." The movie's poster shows penguins walking across a desert. The trailer says, "If you love your planet … if you love your children … you have to see this movie." In case you're thick in the head, the producers spell it out for you: "By far, the most terrifying film you will ever see!" <snip>

Now, it's true that Earth has gotten warmer — one degree since the 19th century — and it will probably get warmer still. And it's probably true that human activity plays a significant part in all that. But it's also true that we don't have a clear picture of what's happening now, never mind what will happen. Just ask the 60 climatologists from around the world who wrote Canada's prime minister that "observational evidence does not support today's computer climate models, so there is little reason to trust model predictions of the future." But that's all beside the point to Gore & Co., who say the time for debate is over. And if you disagree, get ready for the witch hunt. Major news media have gone after scientists who argue there's still time to study global warming rather than plunge into some half-baked environmental jihad that could waste possibly trillions of dollars. <snip>

This is just a small taste of the millenarian battiness running through the green scare. Sure, a one- or two-degree-per-century rise in average global temperatures may have unpleasant consequences — with some pleasant ones as well — but in what study did the New Yorker's fact-checkers verify that Earth will become uninhabitable? Moreover, the greens' proposed solutions to global warming are even more otherworldly. Reducing global carbon dioxide emissions to 60% of 1990 levels before 2050, while China, India and (hopefully) Africa modernize, is inconceivable, ill-conceived and also immoral because it would consign generations to poverty. <snip>

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:17 AM
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1. Pathetic
I'm so sick of this bullshit. I'm out to see what I can do to debunk this.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:30 AM
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3. Thanks for helping! :-)
:-)
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:00 AM
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6. This has really got me upset
I'm concerned about this letter sent to our Prime Minister. These "60 Climatologists" are wrong, wrong, wrong.

However, I'm encouraged by this article about ANOTHER letter sent to Steven Harper:

Scientists urge Canada to act now to halt global warming

Wed Apr 19, 4:22 PM ET

OTTAWA (AFP) - Ninety top scientists in Canada pressed Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who is hostile to the Kyoto Protocol, to tackle climate change now or risk devastating consequences for the country.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/canadaclimatepolitics

90 trumps 60! :D

But seriously, I'd like to look up every single one of those 60 just to see what their credentials (and politcal affilliations) are.

Obviously, Canada is being targeted by pro-business anti-Kyoto groups, now that Canada has an anti-Kyoto Prime Minister.

I intend to help prove it.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 11:03 AM
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7. I'd like to know for whom those sixty work
"Scientists" on ExxonMobil's payroll aren't scientists.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:34 PM
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8. The schools all look legit
I just wonder what kind of 'incentive' caused them to sign.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:29 AM
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2. Your headline is slightly misleading

Now, it's true that Earth has gotten warmer — one degree since the 19th century — and it will probably get warmer still. And it's probably true that human activity plays a significant part in all that. But it's also true that we don't have a clear picture of what's happening now, never mind what will happen.

Goldberg is downplaying global warming, not denying it.

This seems to be the new tact of the corporate bought-and-sold pundits and so-called scientists who turn out corporate-sponsored studies. Denying global warming no longer has any creditability. It must be downplayed.

It's still part of the same PR game that the tobacco industry played and continues to play with its product's effect on public health. First deny there is a problem, then deny there is any such thing as public health, just an individual's right to slowly kill himself by smoking; then deny they target teen age consumers while creating Joe Camel.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:31 AM
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4. True - but headline wording was limited so shorter word won :-)
:-)
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 10:32 AM
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5. I understand
I've been guilty of the same thing.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 12:53 PM
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9. How do people like this get published?
This guy's a buffoon.

It just amazes me how dumbed down and dishonest America has allowed itself to become over the past 25 years.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-20-06 02:45 PM
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10. Having a mother who's a publisher helps
!!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 07:20 AM
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12. Well, he's not going to help the LA Time's circulation
Not that the Tribune Co. give a shit about that....
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 01:16 PM
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13. Son of a buffoon
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:02 AM
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11. oh, ok. if jonah goldberg -- who would be selling shoes at penny's if
his mother, one of the slimiest, skankiest, right-wing ho-bags in history weren't the slimy, skanky, right-wing ho-bag she is -- says there's no global warming, then i guess it must be so.

scientists no nothing. dim-witted sons of pushy, ambitious mothers know everything.

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robertarctor Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 01:59 PM
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14. Pantsload Goldberg is a total moron
Jonah "Pantsload" Goldberg is a complete idiot, an entitled fatass Fauntleroy and prep-school pantywaist who would be managing a fast-food restaurant if his mother wasn't named Lucianne Goldberg. Why anyone takes this jerkoff seriously is a mystery, and it speaks volumes that the Los Angeles Times would fire Robert Scheer and at the same time give a column to this motor-mouthed nimrod. In anything resembling a real democracy with a functioning fourth estate, a newspaper of the Times' caliber wouldn't have to curry favor with the ruling junta by employing reactionary fucksticks like Pantsload. Enough. Seriously: Enough of this horseshit.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:32 PM
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15. Well, he does get paid for doing almost nothing.
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 10:33 PM by K-W
Im not sure hes stupid as much as he is a jerk.

On second thought Jonah Goldberg is stupid and a jerk.
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