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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:25 AM
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Piracy worse than child pornography
Piracy worse than child pornography
Society's new perspectives
By Nick Farrell: Wednesday 26 April 2006

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Details of the upgraded act, which has the blessing of the music and film industry and the Bush administration, are now coming to light. It appears that the DMCA will have a maximum sentence of ten years inside for the crime of software and music piracy. It will also give the FBI the powers to wiretap suspected pirates.

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For example assaulting a police officer will get you five years, downloading child porn will get you seven years, assaulting without a weapon will get you ten years and aggravated assault six years.

So in other words if you copy a Disney CD and sell it you will be in the same league as a paedophile who is distributing pictures of sexual attacks on children.

If you copy Craig David's CD you get ten years, but if you punch him in the face and pummel him into a seven day coma you will only get six. You are more likely to get the respect of the prison population with your six year sentence as well.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=31256

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:28 AM
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1. Excuse me?
Are we confusing the children of one's intellect with living, breathing, suffering human beings?
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:28 AM
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2. IMHO this has never been about kiddie porn but
about $$$$$ in lost music company revenue...
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:37 AM
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8. As long as the music industry is able
to convince people that their dropping profits are due to downloading and not bad management and production of crap they will have the ears of the politicians.

It's an easy political point to blame kids that download. I do wonder what the music industry would come up with as the next pathetic excuse if they were able to stop illegal downloading?
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:42 AM
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9. I don't even think poor quality is the reason
The overall sales of "content" have skyrocketed, mainly thanks to the DVD. The overall entertainment industry is having one record year after another.
As people have only so-much money to spend, it is no surprise that cinemas and music are not doing equally well.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:33 AM
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20. There is no evidence
That piracy causes a decrease in revenue.

It's a logically falacy to assume that everyone who downloads art "illegaly" would otherwise purchase such material.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:59 AM
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25. I agree. That AND setting up the "need for control" of the Internet. nt.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:28 AM
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3. You might as well just shoplift the CD
That would only be a misdemeanor.

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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:06 AM
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14. rofl
:rofl:
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:30 AM
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4. Fucking asinine.
:grr:
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:34 AM
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21. Yeah because tougher sentances always reduce crime.
Law and Order!

More privatized prisons...more money for the elite.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:32 AM
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5. law almost always protects money more than people.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:34 AM
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6. This society has fucked up priorities. Death to the RIAA!!
:mad:
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:37 AM
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7. Oh it gets even better
If I read it correctly, just coying the Disney CD it gets you 10 yeas; even non-commercial copies come with the "10-years".

Even the attenmpt counts - hello :wtf: .
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:09 AM
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15. Good thing RIAA can't classify it as a mortal sin
Just thinking about it could get you eternal damnation!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:00 PM
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26. And whatever happened to the buyer's right to make a back-up copy? nt
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:33 PM
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27. That one hasn't been around for a few years now
You are not allowed to circumvent copy protection mechanisms; a pseudo-CD equipped with one may not be backed up (IIRC; it's that way over here and our laws are pretty much like the DCMA).
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Desperadoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:47 AM
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10. Big victory for the RIAA......and associates............
Al & Tipper Gore and Joe Lieberman. The DLC scores another big goal for corporate Murika.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:51 AM
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11. If you want a name: Lamar Smith
Seems a more plausible recipient for the blame, if you ask me.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:25 AM
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16. Lamar Smith can be beaten this November
If folks actually want to do something useful instead of just whining about the DLC they should check out his decidedly non-DLC opponent, John Courage.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:03 AM
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12. Seems reasonable to me. After all
child porn is not copywrited.

:eyes:

Some days I nearly despair.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:04 AM
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13. These sentencing limits are so out of line
Someone should really sit down and figure that shit out. Perhaps there is also a difference between serving a jail sentence and serving a prison sentence, because you can serve in difference type prisons, from minimum to maximum security.
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simonm Donating Member (386 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:33 AM
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17. Get open music and software
Get open source software and listen to independent musicians.

http://www.ubuntu.com/
http://www.grassrootsmusic.com/indies/
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:44 AM
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18. diane feinstein
one of the democrats who pushed this act thru congress. conyers was also on the file sharing hit list of congress critters who were going to hobble file sharing but he backed off the proposed legislation.

it`s not about music or movies to the government ,it`s about monitoring -all- file sharing....
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:45 AM
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19. And some Dems will go along- probably more than a few
Howard Berman almost for sure.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:38 AM
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22. crimes against corporations vs. crimes against people---
how hard is it to figure out Congress' priorities here?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:39 AM
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23. how big a political donation can a kid make when he's a sex slave?
You want a tough law, you got to pay these guys.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:39 AM
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24. Don't tell Brian Bilbray this! He and the NRCC will change plans...
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 11:39 AM by calipendence
... and now put out new ads that say Francine Busby is a friend to pirates instead of a friend to child molestors. They have to continue to up the ante you know!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:45 PM
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28. Here's a good petition to fight recording industry's lawsuits:
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