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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:03 AM
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John Nichols (The Nation): Which Way Dems? Murtha v. Hoyer


From The Nation
Dated Saturday June 10



Which Way Dems? Murtha v. Hoyer
By John Nichols

When the House of Representatives voted Thursday on the question of whether to allow old media companies to colonize and control the internet, the two men who would like to be majority leader in a Democrat-controlled Congress split their votes.

House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer, the Maryland Democrat who has long been seen as the heir apparent for the majority leader post if Democrats regain power, stuck to his usual pattern: He did as the lobbyists for the largest corporations – and their allies in the Bush administration – asked.

Congressman John Murtha, the Pennsylvania Democrat who has indicated that he will challenge Hoyer for the No. 2 position in the party caucus if Democrats retake the House in November, did the opposite.

Hoyer voted for the corrupt "Communications, Opportunity, Promotion, and Enhancement Act of 2006, which the telephone and cable companies are using as a vehicle to create a two-tier internet in which the sites of corporations and candidates that pay high fees to broadband providers are easily accessed while the sites of small businesses, community groups and independent thinkers will be difficult – perhaps impossible – to reach. Murtha voted against it.

It wasn't the first time that Hoyer and Murtha have split on fundamental questions.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:09 AM
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1. Wow, a bit of chicken-counting going on there...
We gotta take back the House first! I think Murtha will be a strong challenger to Hoyer, though, if we do. And I also think the mood of the country puts Murtha at an advantage:

... Last December, Murtha voted against making the PATRIOT Act permanent. Hoyer voted in favor of the move, and in so doing gave the Bush administration everything it was asking for with regard to the controversial law.

The point here is not to suggest that Murtha's a perfect progressive -- in fact, he's really an old-school New Dealer who breaks with liberals on some social issues -- or that Hoyer is Tom DeLay in Democrat drag. For instance, while Murtha's been a more consistent critic of corporate-sponsored free-trade pacts than Hoyer, both men have lifetime records of voting with the AFL-CIO around 90 percent of the time.

But when Hoyer ran against Nancy Pelosi for the position of House Whip back in 2001, there was no question that Pelosi was the progressive choice while Hoyer erred right. Lori Wallach, the director of Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch and a key player in Washington debates on trade policy, noted that, "Hoyer has repositioned himself--one can only assume for political purposes--as the DLC, business candidate in this race."

No member of the House leadership has more consistently echoed the talking points of the corporate-sponsored Democratic Leadership Council than Hoyer, who once told a DLC event that Democrats lost control of the House in 1994 because "too many Americans believed that our party had become weak on crime and national defense, incapable of making hard decisions on welfare reform and fiscal policy, and irrevocably wedded to the idea that all of our problems could be solved by government and more spending." ...


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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:15 AM
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2. THIS SHOULDNT EVEN BE A QUESTION...
HOYER IS * LITE..AND WTF DO WE NEED THAT FOR??

this is a slam dunk for Murtha!!

Hoyer is not a dem in my book!

fly
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:23 AM
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3. Are these supposed to be the only two choices?
No disrespect to Murtha intended, but are there not others with seniority and credentials for the job?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:27 AM
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4. No doubt there are others, but . . .
Hoyer would become majority leader almost be default should Ms. Pelosi be elevated to speaker in January unless someone challenges him. Murtha is so far the only one who expressed an interest.

The position is selected by a vote of the Democratic caucus. It is not subject to seniority.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-11-06 10:43 AM
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5. That could be interesting.
We will see if any other candidates express an interest.
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