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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 03:07 PM
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The strange repercussions of the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict
Unfortunately this conflict is creating waves and more anger in places that I would never expect to see it. To be clear, I have no position on the conflict other than no one will win, and that every life lost is a terrible thing.

For those of you who may not know what PHP is, PHP is a language used to develop web applications in. Whether you know it or not, you are using it right now: DU runs on PHP. I personally use PHP to develop applications as well. In fact PHP is one of the most widely used web languages in the world. What many people don't realize is that most PHP today runs on something called the Zend Engine. The Zend engine is developed by Zend Technologies, originally an Israeli company. That's where it's gotten sticky lately.

Jani Taskinen aka Sniper has long been involved in the development of the Zend engine and many other aspect of the PHP language (PECL/PEAR etc). Recently he quit. Evidently the Israeli association of PHP was to much for him. A link to this story was posted on Slashdot, a well known geek community. It did not take long for the Slashdot thread to devolve into the kind of thread that we see here all the time. Israel is evil, Hezbollah is evil, the US is evil, bomb, nuke, kill, and so forth. Now Slashdot is known for it's flame fests, but almost all consist of what most people would view as uber-nerd wars over which language is better, whether Intel or AMD rocks harder, who's cuter: Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. But to see a Slashdot thread devolve into chaos like that is troublesome to me. It seems like you can't turn anywhere without seeing more splits, more fighting, more finger wagging over this issue.

Jani quit because evidently he served as a UN peacekeeper himself and was outraged over the bombing, accidental or not, of UN peacekeepers in Lebanon. Here is a sample of his venting caught by a slashdot user (mcavanagh2):
<_sniper_> hehehehe..
<_sniper_> all other members of the UN security council wanted to condemn Israel for attacking the UN post but USA (freedom and democracy) vetoed it....Israel says the resolution was fair.
<_sniper_> hell yeah..
<_sniper_> NUKE ISRAEL!
<_sniper_> I'm so full of that fucking country..
<Shai-Tan> indeed
<_sniper_> Eye for an eye..I'll kill one Israel officer for one of ours, is that fair?
<_sniper_> I bet I'll be hanged for that.
<_sniper_> They kill one of my brother-in-arms-for-peace..I think I'm entitled to kill one of their nazis.
<_sniper_> Hezbollah, where can I enlist?
<_sniper_> FYI: I don't care at all what anybody thinks about me. I'm going to be openly anti-Israel from now on. This was the last straw for me. Fuck you jews.
<_sniper_> I will also quit this project. As long as it's backed by some Israel company, I don't want to have anything to do with it.
<_sniper_> Good bye.
<-- _sniper_ (~############) has left #php.pecl


This is pretty extreme emotion. Its also pretty extreme to disassociate oneself from a global open source community dedicated to a programming language because the core engine was once Israeli based (it is now based in California, though it maintains offices in Israel). You may wonder why I'm going on about this. It's because he worked on a tremendous number of features in PHP, including security features and the Zend Engine itself (he was listed as one of the leads on the new Zend Engine). His lost will drastically slow down development of bug fixes and security patches in a number of areas of PHP, as other developers will have to take on his workload, learn his code. This also may leave larger gaps of time open when web servers are vulnerable to attacks before patches are released. And that affects you the user as well as business in general. I know this might affect me as all our software is based on PHP and relies heavy on many extensions he worked on.

And that's what gets me, that if this conflict is profoundly affecting a programming language and its community, what other areas of commerce, in what other ways that I may not be aware of is this conflict snapping ties? I can't even begin to imagine the damage this is causing as various groups world wide react, move to distance themselves from each other, or cut off business entirely! In what ways am I not even aware of is this horrible business affecting me?

In what way is this affecting you that your not even aware of?
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 03:12 PM
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1. self-delete.
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 03:13 PM by Jim__
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 03:14 PM
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2. the sudden narrowing of DU minds has been startling...
...the "lock and load" absolutism favoring one side or the other...

More of the "collateral damage" of war...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 03:24 PM
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3. Thank you, that's interesting.
I appreciate you taking the time.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 03:46 PM
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4. Interesting..... One more divide in the things we can't talk about even
amongst relatives. Can't talk politics and can't talk peace.

It's becoming increasingly hard to find common ground out there, anywhere.

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