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top10 ADMIN Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 11:23 PM
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The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 254


The Top 10 Conservative Idiots, No. 254

August 7, 2006
Mel-O-Drama Edition

We're back after last week's break, and surprise surprise, conservative idiocy is still going strong. This week Mel Gibson (1) shows his true colors, Conrad Burns (2) insults firefighters, and Rick Santorum (3) starts to worry about his re-election prospects. Meanwhile, Katherine Harris (4) is feeling abandoned, Congressional Republicans (6) screw the poor, and George W. Bush (10) gets Idolized. Enjoy, and don't forget the key!



Mel Gibson

There were Signs last week that The Patriot known as Mel Gibson may be losing it. After enjoying a quiet Tequila Sunrise, Gibson was arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol, which turned his car into a Lethal Weapon. Was it Payback for his celebrity status? Or is this all just a Conspiracy Theory? (Aaargh, stop it! -- Skinner.)

Sorry about that. Anyway, it's true, Gibson was arrested for DUI and charged last week after police caught him speeding along the Pacific Coast Highway in California. But what happened next can only be described as bizarre. According to the official police report which was filed after the arrest, Gibson said "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world," and asked the officer who arrested him, "Are you a Jew?"

Passion of the Christ! What a strange turn of events. It's long been known that Gibson's father has, um, certain feelings about the Jewish people - while discussing the Holocaust with an interviewer in 2004, Hutton Gibson said that "It's all - maybe not all fiction - but most of it is." But while Mel has previously managed to shake off accusations of anti-semitism despite a few dubious moments in his aforementioned sadistic snuff movie, I have a funny feeling - call it a hunch - that his latest comments may have spilled the beans.

Anyway, Gibson's behavior has prompted this Top 10 dramatic recreation of a scene from the upcoming "Lethal Weapon 5."




Conrad Burns

Scenario: you're a three-term incumbent Senator, and you're facing the very real prospect of losing your seat this year. What do you do? If you're Conrad Burns, the answer is simple: just go out and verbally abuse a bunch of firefighters. That should do the trick!

In July, firefighters poured into Montana in an effort to curb raging widlfires. Burns bumped into some of these firefighters at Billings Airport on July 23rd, and, according to the Missoulian, offered them his heart-felt appreciation.

(The official report said that) the three men were sitting in the Billings airport waiting for their flight when Burns approached them with an outstretched hand and asked if they were firefighters.

"I shook his hand and replied yes," Templeton wrote. "He shook my hand, introduced himself and then replied, 'What a piss poor job' we were doing. I replied, 'Have a nice day.' The senator mentioned that we were 'wasting a lot of money and creating a cottage industry.' He also told us that we needed to listen more to the ranchers. I replied that 'we are pretty low on the totem pole.' Then he walked off."

Meanwhile, the Associated Press reported that Burns pointed at one of the firefighters and said, "See that guy over there? He hasn't done a god damned thing."

Just in case you think that this is an aberration, the AP also helpfully provided a list of some of Burns' previous "compassionate conservative" statements. Try these on for size:

In 1999, Burns issued a written apology after referring to Arabs as "rag heads" during a speech while commenting on oil prices. In 1994, Burns repeated a story that included the word "niggers" and commented that living with blacks in Washington, D.C., was "a hell of a challenge." He also onced asked a woman who was wearing a nose ring what tribe she belonged to.

Last year, the senator denied a flight attendant's claim that he told her she could "go home and be a mother" if her airline job were eliminated.

What a caring, sharing gentleman. I do so hope that the voters of Montana won't throw him out on his ass this November.



Rick Santorum

Speaking of incumbent Senators on the verge of losing their jobs, let's check in on Rick Santorum (R-Fecal Matter) and see how he's getting along.

As the Senate's most vulnerable incumbent, Santorum is obviously becoming increasingly worried about his re-election prospects this year. So he's decided to try to branch out. Last week he became the 170th member of Congress to sign a statement "affirming that his office does not discriminate in hiring on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity," according to PageOneQ. "We welcome Sen. Santorum's signature affirming the need for basic equality in his own hiring practices," said the executive director of GenderPAC. Yes indeed we do! But given Santorum's previous statements comparing homosexuality to bigamy, polygamy, incest, pedophilia, bestiality, and adultery, one wonders whether this bit of blatant pandering might just be a tad too little, too late.

Don't worry though, Santorum still has plenty of ammunition to use against his Democratic opponent Bob Casey. Well.......... actually that's not true. Which is why Santorum's supporters are now banking heavily on a Green Party candidate siphoning votes away from Casey - so much so, in fact, that according to TPM Muckraker, "Every single contributor to the Pennsylvania Green Party Senate candidate is actually a conservative - except for the candidate himself." Yes, you heard right.

The Luzerne County Green Party raised $66,000 in the month of June in order to fund a voter signature drive. The Philly Inquirer reported yesterday that $40,000 came from supporters of Rick Santorum's campaign (or their housemates). Also yesterday, we confirmed that another $15,000 came from GOP donors and conservatives. Only three contributions, totaling $11,000, remained as possible legit donations.

Today, I confirmed that those came from GOP sources.

- The Green Party listed a $1,000 check from a Bill Wickerman of Covington & Burling. There is no such person. However, a Bill Wichterman works there. He's a Republican lobbyist who has also given to Santorum this campaign.

- James Holman, who in the past has supported GOP House candidate Howard Kaloogian, Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS), and Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ), was incorrectly listed by the Greens as "James Howmen." He disclosed that he was an editor at the San Diego Reader; a James Holman is the publisher there.

- The Green Party disclosed that a "Franklin Schoneman" of Pottsville, Pa. gave $5,000. A "Franklin Schoeneman" of Pottsville has given $8,000 to Santorum so far this election.

That leaves only one contribution, for $30, as a legitimate donation from a Green Party supporter. That came from the candidate himself, Carl Romanelli. He made it to his own campaign fund, not the local Green Party.

Well you know what they say - if you can't win fair and square, cheat your dumb conservative butt off.



Katherine Harris

Our very-favorite-ever Conservative Idiot (aside from George W. Bush of course) is back on the list after yet another rollicking week of campaign fun. Last week it was revealed that Ms. Harris apparently hid a recent subpoena from her top advisers "prompting several staff members to quit when they found out," according to the Associated Press. Smart move! It appears that Harris also kept the subpoena from Dennis Hastert, which is a violation of House Rule VIII according to TPM Muckraker.

Meanwhile, it was recently revealed that the Florida Republican Party sent a letter to Harris earlier this year telling her that she couldn't win, and that they had decided to discontinue their support for her campaign. My goodness.

"Katherine, though it causes us much anguish, we have determined that your campaign faces irreparable damage," said the letter, which was also signed by national committeewoman Sharon Day and national committeeman Paul Senft. "We feel that we have no other choice but to revoke our support."

But Harris doesn't appear to be overly concerned about disappearing staffers, subpoenas, House rule violations, and the Florida GOP running away from her as fast as their little legs can carry them. Last week she announced that "We'll win, so don't listen to the prognosticators, or the pollsters - you can make a poll say anything you want. Don't be discouraged. We've done it before. We'll do it again."

According to the Examiner, "the 27 Republican women that came to hear her speak applauded and rose to their feet."

But hang on a minute. Don't listen to the pollsters? You can make a poll say anything you want? We've done it before, we'll do it again? This is starting to sound less like a campaign and more like a cry for help.



Ann Coulter

I kinda made a deal with myself not so long ago that I wouldn't put Ann Coulter on the list again unless she did something really stupid. I know, I know - she does something really stupid every week. But that's my point. I didn't want to put her on the list unless she did something really stupid. I mean, REALLY stupid.

Well guess what? Ann Coulter's on the list again this week!

On the July 25th episode of the Donny Deutsch show, the following exchange took place:

DEUTSCH: Before we're off the air, you were talking about Bill Clinton. Is there anything you want to say about Clinton? No?

COULTER: No.

DEUTSCH: OK. All right. Did you find him attractive? Was that what it was?

COULTER: No!

DEUTSCH: You don't find him attractive?

COULTER: No. OK, fine, I'll say it on air.

DEUTSCH: Most women find him attractive.

COULTER: No.

DEUTSCH: OK, say it on air.

COULTER: I think that sort of rampant promiscuity does show some level of latent homosexuality.

DEUTSCH: OK, I think you need to say that again. That Bill Clinton, you think on some level, has - is a latent homosexual, is that what you're saying?

COULTER: Yeah.

Er... what? Of all the things you could call Bill Clinton, I think "homosexual" is probably the last thing that would spring to mind. Saying Bill Clinton is gay is kinda like saying Elton John is straight. It's just plain daft.

But it all becomes much clearer if you read the transcript from the July 27th edition of Hardball:

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about your private life. How do you know that Bill Clinton's gay?

COULTER: He may not be gay, but Al Gore, total fag. No, I'm just kidding. As someone, no --

MATTHEWS: That's based on your private life?

COULTER: No, that's a joke.

MATTHEWS: OK.

See? She was joking. Get it?

Now, bear in mind that Matthews started off the interview by saying, "You are a controversial lady. You write beautifully. You have a brilliant brain. I stayed up last night reading your chapter on Willie Horton which was absolutely stunning in its satire, it reminded me of the young George Will."

Because there's nothing that says "stunning satire" like calling Al Gore a total fag and then adding "I'm just kidding."



Congressional Republicans

It's been almost ten years since the minimum wage was last raised, so Democrats have been fighting hard for an increase this year. Republicans, of course, think that paying people fair wages is a crime. And so last week, they pulled out all the stops to make sure that Americans on the lowest rung of the economic ladder get to enjoy that rung for a little longer.

First, House Republicans passed a minimum wage bill which would actually cut the pay of workers in several states. Er... right. Then, Senate Republicans took that bill and ran with it, essentially turning it into an opportunity to further increase the fortunes of the very richest Americans by getting rid of the Estate Tax.

Okay, let's see, the GOP's idea of raising the minimum wage involves cutting workers' pay and handing over fat piles of cash to the super-rich. Sounds about right.

Senate Democrats obviously voted against this travesty, so, sorry multi-millionaires - you're going to have to wait a little bit longer for those extra hundred dollar bills to wipe your ass with. Unfortunately, thanks to the GOP, the millions of Americans who could really use an increase in the minimum wage are going to have to wait a little longer.

Oh, I'm sorry - did I say "thanks to the GOP?" Perhaps I should mention that after the bill was voted down, Republicans immediately attempted to blame Senate Democrats for destroying the hopes and dreams of low-income Americans. "The Democrats have obstructed what heretofore had been their No. 1 issue," said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist.

Wow, look at that! Democrats obstructed themselves! Astonishing. And Republicans had nothing to do with it whatsoever!

I guess putting a Democratic majority in Congress this year would be a real blow to low-income Americans, wouldn't it? So come on people, vote for the GOP this fall. After all, it's a lot more fun trying to pull yourself up by the bootstraps when there's a Republican standing on the back of your neck.



Tom DeLay

The Hammer Returns! Yes, we thought we'd seen the last of Tom DeLay after he resigned from Congress earlier this year, but his fifteen minutes apparently aren't up quite yet. Last week a federal appeals court panel ruled that DeLay cannot be replaced by another GOP candidate on the November ballot, which means that the disgraced former House Majority Leader must run, or hand the seat over to Democrat Nick Lampson.

According to the Houston Chronicle:

Texas Republican Chair Tina Benkiser had ruled DeLay was ineligible to serve because he had moved to Virginia, opening the door for Republicans to replace him on the ballot.

The Texas Democratic Party sued, saying it was a subterfuge and that he had not really moved to Virginia.

And the bi-partisan federal panel agreed last week that it was indeed subterfuge - unconstitutional subterfuge, to boot. I know what you're thinking: Tom DeLay? Unconstitutional subterfuge? Surely not!



Jeff Habay

Aren't you getting a bit tired of news stories that start like this? "Once considered a rising star in the local Republican Party, Jeff Habay now is Inmate 135151."

That's right - yet another Republican "rising star" checked in to Hotel Calaboose last week, just the latest in a long line of conservative crooks who've fallen afoul of the long arm of the law.

Jeff Habay, a member of the Pennsylvania state House, was sentenced to six to twelve months in Allegheny County Jail last week after a jury convicted him of "conflict of interest, finding he used state workers and resources for his political campaigns," according to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. "The judge also delayed imposing the sentence until Habay faced a second trial - at the time scheduled for July - on 21 separate charges of witness intimidation, making false reports to police and harassment."

The second trial will delve into allegations that Habay mailed himself an envelope full of white powder, and then tried to blame it on a political opponent. Conservative idiot?

I should say so.



U.S. Chamber of Commerce

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce has been stumping hard for Republicans in the run-up to this year's elections, and one of their recent ads for Rep. Steve Chabot of Ohio was a real winner, giving him big props for voting for the Medicare prescription drug coverage plan.

There's just one slight problem - Chabot didn't actually vote for the plan. In fact, he kinda voted against it.

According to the Associated Press, "Chabot's office said the business group was acting independently and he has asked the ads to stop. When told that Chabot voted against the bill the chamber was praising him for supporting, spokesman David Felipe said he would have to check on the details. The chamber did not immediately call back with comment."

Funny that - you'd think it wouldn't take that long to "check on the details." Try ten seconds on Google, for example.



George W. Bush

And finally, I have a confession to make: I watched every episode of American Idol last season. I'm not kidding. I love that show. It doesn't get more American than American Idol. I mean, sure, it's a rip-off of the British show Pop Idol, but that's okay.

I'm not the only one. Millions upon millions of Americans get their weekly dose of reality-dodging by immersing themselves in the trials and tribulations of a dozen hopefuls all vying to be the one who doesn't end up performing at the Rusty Rudder in Dewey Beach, Delaware.

So it made perfect sense for "man of the people" George W. Bush to meet with the Idol finalists in the Oval Office two weeks ago. After all, while the entire Middle East goes to shit, gas prices go through the roof, and the economy starts to collapse, what says "I'm in touch" like a photo-op with a bunch of soon-to-be-never-heard-of-again singers from a TV show that ended three months ago?


Left to right: Hunky, Dopey, Father Ted, Beyonce Lite, Dubya, Dorky, Boobster, Homophobe, Pantene Pro-V, and Twin Diesel.

Be on the lookout for that approval rating to smash through the 40% barrier any day now. See you next week!

-- EarlG
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dermalogic Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 11:44 PM
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1. You make my Monday
Edited on Sun Aug-06-06 11:44 PM by dermalogic
Posting from Australia, let me assure you that i refresh DU every 10 minutes till this appears.

Love your work mate, keep it up!
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 11:48 PM
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2. Haven't even read it -YET
Just posting that I'm gald to see you back!! :)
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holboz Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 12:26 PM
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32. Re: American Idol's Father Ted
I don't watch American Idol but I'm so glad that someone over here also agrees that the winner is the spitting image of Father Ted! (may Dermot Morgan RIP)

Great to have ya back, EarlG!
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:03 PM
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35. I've been saying that since his first appearance on "Idol"

Father Ted




American Idol
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 07:24 AM
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41. Who is Father Ted? n/t
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 07:31 AM
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42. A wonderful Irish comedy that some PBS stations carried
Edited on Tue Aug-08-06 07:32 AM by Patiod
Three disgraced priests living in a remote Irish parish with a dotty housekeeper -- a libidinous old drunk (Father Jack, who is passed out most of the time), a really stupid younger guy (Father Dougal), and an embezzler (Father Ted), played by the late comic Dermot Morgan, who looked a lot like Taylor Hicks.

Hysterically funny. I think they've available on video.

A lot of cursing, but "shite!" and "feck!" seem to be okay on American TV....
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 07:52 AM
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43. Thanks, I was afraid
Father Ted was one of the American Catholic priests in jail for pedophilia.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-06-06 11:55 PM
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3. Love it, EarlG. Thanks for ending this West Coaster's day so well!
As always, you and DU help keep me balanced, sane, focused, and hopeful.

Sadly, I am still...

The Tired Old Cynic
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 12:04 AM
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4. He DOES look like Father Ted!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 12:09 AM
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5. Can we get a collective Nelson laugh for Katherine Harris?
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 12:09 AM by EOO


HA HA!!!
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:56 AM
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17. Just to let you know... Nelson is pretty pro-rich elite ass in FL...
I wish there was a better democrat running against him. He would not support a min wage increase.
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felman87 Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 12:11 AM
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6. YES!
Top 10 is back! Another fantastic week EarlG!
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 01:03 AM
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7. Pantene Pro-V?
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 01:06 AM by ejbr
Looks more like Prell to me.:evilgrin: (and I should know! Look at my hair!!)

Nice job Earl. The kicker for me: "...let's check in on Rick Santorum (R-Fecal Matter) and see how he's getting along." because you KNOW that on any given week he is getting along horribly!
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 01:49 AM
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8. Covington & Burling - John Bolton's old firm.
"The Green Party listed a $1,000 check from a Bill Wickerman of Covington & Burling. There is no such person. However, a Bill Wichterman works there. He's a Republican lobbyist who has also given to Santorum this campaign"

Covington & Burling -tobacco crooks, I mean lawyers.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:20 AM
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9. welcome back! we missed you and a great top 10 this week n/t
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chervilant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 02:56 AM
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10. Coulter
Ann Coulter does not write beautifully. She uses polysyllabic words gratuitously and she's a plagiarist. Furthermore, being shrill does not make one intelligent.
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:39 AM
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20. I like Ann Coulter
only slightly less that Chris Matthews. "Writes beautifully?"

Has Matthews ever made the top ten? I'm nominating now.
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d---mad2 Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:11 PM
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37. Good to have you back mate--------Clintons reply [#5]

When Bill was queried about Ann's statement he replied. "I believe she's upset with me because of an
incident that happened during an interview we had a few years back, where I rejected her advances. I had no desire then or now to HUMP A BAG OF ANTLERS."
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 04:27 AM
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11. Pennsylvania Idiots Lead The Way!!
Saintwhorum and Habay make me pr... oh lord my state is fulla nutcases with power :puke:


Thanks EarlG, for another stellar list! :applause:
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:49 AM
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14. As a native Penn-sa-vanian,
I am so happy that my peeps are about to give Fecal Boy the boot. Now, if I could only do the same with Chambliss, Isakson, and Governor Fudd...I mean Purdue.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:07 AM
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12. Just Kidding
Let me say that suggesting someone is gay should not be considered an insult.

You can say it's none of Ann Coulter's business. But you can't say that it matters either way whether someone is gay, in terms of whether they would make a good leader or not.

As Seinfield would say: "Not that there's anything wrong with that"

But you're right - she's an idiot.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:44 AM
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13. "Aren't you getting a bit tired of news stories that start like this?"...
Nope. Not at all. Gimme more!

The only thing I'm tired of is that it took so long.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 05:55 AM
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15. So what will Greens say about the Santorum piece?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:05 AM
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16. I wonder if Santorum has ever googled his name.
Great top 10. :applause: It must be hard to decide which 10 to cover with so many to choose from.
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:58 AM
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18. missed you last week. Its always nice to start the week with humor.
Too bad its so real-life.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 07:23 AM
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19. All excellent choices
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obreaslan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:14 AM
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21. "Don't listen to the pollsters?..."
Edited on Mon Aug-07-06 08:14 AM by obreaslan
"Don't listen to the pollsters? You can make a poll say anything you want? We've done it before, we'll do it again? This is starting to sound less like a campaign and more like a cry for help."

A cry for help, or what sounds almost like it could be a confession. :rofl:


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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:15 AM
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22. EarlG, can you expand on Number Four?
You do a wonderful, masterful job almost all the time, but this week you pressed the "send" button just a mite too early.

You have GOT to add this to Katherine Harris' entry.



I mean, come on, this is just too precious for words.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 10:04 AM
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26. I wished that animal liked to eat silicon
I wished that animal liked to eat silicon. Now, that would be a great photo op.
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DUBYASCREWEDUS Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:46 AM
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23. I can now go to Work!
My Monday is now complete. The problem in my Republican office is they can't understand why I am laughing and spitting my water across the room! What will we do without you after the 2008 Democratic upheaval?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:17 AM
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25. (NEVER an idiot shortage. . . . )
He can do this 'til he's old & grey, if he wants to...
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 09:15 AM
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24. Welcome Back, EarlG......
The Top Ten is da bomb! Don't remember if I've ever posted my appreciation before, but we love you man.....
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 10:25 AM
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27. More on GOP Leglislator Who Faked Anthrax Attack
The following has some links to news stories about the GOP legislator who is now in jail, as described above, who is also charged with faking an anthrax attack on himself.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2755768
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 11:19 AM
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28. What exactly classifies Mel Gibson as a "conservative"?
He's on record as being against the Iraq War, and has even endorsed Michael Moore's film.

Also, talk about kicking a man when he's down. This was an event that happened between him and some police officers when he was drunk; it's not like he flew a biplane over west coast shore with a "Jews are evil" banner.
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 11:40 AM
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29. Mel Gibson: another conservative rat swimming away FROM a sinking ship.
I'm certainly glad Mel Gibson has the 'courage' to speak out against a war that 70% of the American public opposes. Where was Mel in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005? Hmmmm?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 11:47 AM
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30. He was praising Moore's film in 2004 and 2005
Does that answer your question?

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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 12:12 PM
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31. And he said Clinton was promoting Marxism.
Look it up on wikipedia,

In a July 1995 interview with Playboy magazine, Gibson said President Bill Clinton was a "low-level opportunist" because someone was "telling him what to do." He said he thought Clinton and other politicians who had won Rhodes Scholarships were part of a "stealth" trend of Rhodes scholars becoming politicians who were striving for a "new world order." He said this was a form of Marxism.

So maybe Mel is conservative and liberal...or more likely, just plain nuts.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 10:23 PM
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39. legal driving limit aside
I would not call a BAC of .12 "drunk" or at least "drunk enough to not be aware of or believe what I am saying"
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 01:11 PM
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33. Did Green Party Intentionally Misspell Donors' Names to Hide Them?
The question that arises from the Top 10 List is: Did the Green Party intentionally mis-spell their Donors' names in PA. to hide their conservative Republican backgrounds?

It is unusual that three different last names would be mis-spelled among a relatively small number of donors to their petition drive.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 08:30 PM
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38. Well...
I wouldn't be supprised but then I wouldn't be supprised if they repukes just did it by themselves hoping not to get caught.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 03:56 PM
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34. Is it just me....
...or does Melvin look like Saddam Hussein?
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-07-06 06:21 PM
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36. *GASP*
Holy shit! You are right! He does look like Saddam in that pic. LOL
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 02:50 AM
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40. My favorite part...
... is where you call AI's Bucky "Pantene Pro-V".

Brilliant!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 12:35 PM
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44. As a result of their being willing to meet with Bush, that pack of
Idols has lost my patronage. I was going to buy Taylor and Katherine's cd's but not anymore.It may be tacky of mr and I am sure AI demanded they do it but I don't care. I once refused to meet Bush and so could they. Some were thrilled I am sure, but just as I won't go to Mel Gibson movies, I am boycotting these artists.
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 03:16 PM
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45. This is trivial, but I wonder why Elliot didn't attend the WH confab?
It's probably for a normal reason like a cold or "scheduling conflict," but if he refused to go as a political statement, Elliot is now officially my new crush. (Not only is he weirdly sexy, I still think he had the most consistently outstanding voice of all the Idols.)
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mkb Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 07:54 PM
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46. Conservatives Liberals Overload on Meaning
     Conservatism as it is properly defined just sucks. 
Conservatives suck, and liberals who are really conservative
suck too.  I'm just glad that people who suck make music that
sounds really good, so we can get on with business in a
halfway enjoyable manner.
     I used to like Jim Morrison of the Doors.  Well, he
wasn't to swell of a guy, but he did come up with some good
tunes for us to enjoy.  Remember that he said "I am the
Lizard King; I can do anything."
     I'm just writing to reach the minority of people who are
honest and trying for a benign and decent life for themselves
and others.  You probably can do just about anything, if given
enough time and the right environment.  Time is the biggest
factor.  And the fact that people are overall just not
inclined to let you develop in a happy peaceful manner unless
they're ripping you off, which you don't want anyway.
     You have to realize that for many of us, we never get to
associate with our real friends, but we still try to focus on
keeping society balanced enough to sustain our hopes.  I want
you to understand that hope for our future and our descendants
future is the driving force in our lives, because life is so
full of deceit and people who are phoney or just incapable of
truly benign and reciprocal living.
     At least realize that conservatism is the obvious enemy
of progress.  You'll probably realize if you focus hard enough
that liberals and lefties are not always who they pretend to
be either.  Try not to be cynical about EVERYONE.  There are
wonderful people out there, and they need your help.  Good
Luck.
   
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