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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:47 PM
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Depleted Uranium – Far Worse Than 9/11
Depleted Uranium – Far Worse Than 9/11

Depleted Uranium Dust – Public Health Disaster For The People Of Iraq and Afghanistan

by Doug Westerman

In 1979, depleted uranium (DU) particles escaped from the National Lead Industries factory near Albany, N.Y.,which was manufacturing DU weapons for the U.S military. The particles traveled 26 miles and were discovered in a laboratory filter by Dr. Leonard Dietz, a nuclear physicist. This discovery led to a shut down of the factory in 1980, for releasing morethan 0.85 pounds of DU dust into the atmosphere every month, and involved a cleanup of contaminated properties costing over 100 million dollars.

Imagine a far worse scenario. Terrorists acquire a million pounds of the deadly dust and scatter it in populated areas throughout the U.S. Hundreds of children report symptoms. Many acquire cancer and leukemia, suffering an early and painful death. Huge increases in severe birth defects are reported. Oncologists are overwhelmed. Soccer fields, sand lots and parks, traditional play areas for kids, are no longer safe. People lose their most basic freedom, the ability to go outside and safely breathe. Sounds worse than 9/11? Welcome to Iraq and Afghanistan.

Dr. Jawad Al-Ali (55), director of the Oncology Center at the largest hospital in Basra, Iraq stated, at a recent (2003) conference in Japan:

“Two strange phenomena have come about in Basra which I have never seen before. The first is double and triple cancers in one patient. For example, leukemia and cancer of the stomach. We had one patient with 2 cancers – one in his stomach and kidney. Months later, primary cancer was developing in his other kidney--he had three different cancer types. The second is the clustering of cancer in families. We have 58 families here with more than one person affected by cancer. Dr Yasin, a general Surgeon here has two uncles, a sister and cousin affected with cancer. Dr Mazen, another specialist, has six family members suffering from cancer. My wife has nine members of her family with cancer”.
“Children in particular are susceptible to DU poisoning. They have a much higher absorption rate as their blood is being used to build and nourish their bones and they have a lot of soft tissues. Bone cancer and leukemia used to be diseases affecting them the most, however, cancer of the lymph system which can develop anywhere on the body, and has rarely been seen before the age of 12 is now also common.”,
“We were accused of spreading propaganda for Saddam before the war. When I have gone to do talks I have had people accuse me of being pro-Saddam. Sometimes I feel afraid to even talk. Regime people have been stealing my data and calling it their own, and using it for their own agendas. The Kuwaitis banned me from entering Kuwait – we were accused of being Saddam supporters.”

http://www.currentconcerns.ch/archive/2006/03/20060312.php
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pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 08:58 PM
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1. DU is not safe
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FtWayneBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 10:18 PM
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2. It is obvious that those who proliferate "depleted" uranium
are war criminals and must be tried as such in international courts.

I am greivously vexed - (read pissed off) - that my tax dollars go for such proliferation - making me culpable as well.

Somehow, this warmongering regime must be stoppped,
or God help us all.
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-30-06 11:33 PM
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3. How is it being proliferated?
You might want to read up on when and how it is used. Its more limited than many realize. There is a lot of incorrect information about where it is employed out there, including here at DU. For example, it is NOT used in cluster munitions and bunker busters, though some here insist otherwise.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:19 AM
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4. Missing the point
The original post indicates an alert at a 26 miles distance. Enough evidence exists for the long range travel of DU particles in the atmosphere that the poisoning of large areas cannot be defended by any pinpoint accuracy or selective use of DU munitions.
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Glib Acumen Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:42 PM
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5. How radioactive is depleted uranium?
Depleted uranium is about 200,000 times more radioactive than soil.
It is 100,000 times as radioactive as granite, which contains uranium.
Radium is a million times more radioactive than depleted uranium.

These facts are hidden from troops and other laymen. They are told that
depleted uranium "is slightly more" radioactive than background levels.
If you think 100,000 is slightly more than 1, then you are a liar.

I posted these radioactivity levels on wikipedia, but it was deleted in 20 minutes.
It seems that commanders do not want the troops to know their weapons are
200,000 times as radioactive the background radiation level.
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bhikkhu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 02:47 PM
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7. DU radioactivity is well-researched, a dead end.
In this case I would side with government funded research and agree that the effects of radiactivity are relatively inconsequential.

With that said - all of the government research tends to focus on the dangers of DU radioactivity, and it is perfectly happy if DU opponents do as well. It can be so easily debunked.

The real issue is its long term toxicity. DU is a heavy metal which lingers in the environment and in the bodies of those exposed, and while research is needed, indications are that it has horrendous and irreversible effects.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 01:43 PM
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6. My Father Pooh-Poohs This
He thinks there's no radioactivity left--and he's an engineer!

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Jcrowley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 04:21 PM
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8. MODERN APPLICATIONS OF DU
MODERN APPLICATIONS OF DU:
 
The applications of DU are quite extensive. DU is very low cost and is readily available. DU can be used as a commercial aircraft counterweight. A Boeing 747 needs 1,500 kg of DU.12,14c Due to volume restrictions, DU is an ideal dense counterweight that takes up very little space. However, due to widespread fears of DU, Tungsten can also be used in a wide range of commercial aircraft counterweights.14c An interesting note: in past plane crashes (e.g. 1992 Israeli El Al cargo jet crash in Amsterdam), local authorities usually end up scraping around 40 cm of topsoil from the crash site and nearby soils, most likely to rid of toxins produced from DU.13,14f
As well, DU can be used in tank armor. Around 1500 tanks were loaded with DU armor in 1993 and 2000 more were ordered by the US military for the future.14c How do we implement DU armor on tanks? Most tanks contain two thick shields of conventional steel armor. There exists a moderately thick gap between the two shields. DU is inserted into the armor plates and the two shields are then welded together to make one tough three-layer armor plate. 
Finally, DU is extensively used in military grade ammunition. Ammunition has always existed in various different forms. DU is simply a new type of ammunition. Regular low-caliber bullets are made of compacted hardened lead.3 Armor piercing rounds (usually of higher caliber) are made out of steel. Incendiary and high explosive rounds (for even higher caliber rounds) are made with chemical explosive compounds.3 DU is merely a recent but simple advancement made in high caliber ammunition. What is depleted uranium ammunition? Basically DU + conventional ammunition = DU ammunition. DU weapons can be installed in conventional ammunition in a variety of ways. However the common methods are the following: you can either coat the ammo in DU or you can make conventional ammo with a DU core. 9,10 DU and tungsten ammunition research was being conducted as early as the 1970s as a means of generating conventional effective armor piercing rounds. 14d Tungsten is generally very expensive, has a higher melting point, and doesn’t cut armor as well as DU. Depleted uranium is cheap, abundant, and even provided free to arms manufacturers. DU rounds can be classified in many different types of ammunition. DU is employed in tank rounds (usually as a kinetic dart/projectile, high-explosive device, or smart bombs)1, heavy machine guns (as used by US Bradley Fighting Vehicles), gatling guns (as used by US Apache helicopters, A-10 Warthogs, Harrier jets, and other anti-personnel aircraft), artillery (e.g. Howitzers and mortar shells), and probably in ultra-high caliber sniper rifles. The most common DU round is a high kinetic energy projectile. The projectile can pierce all forms of heavy armor. Contact temperature between the projectile and the armor is 1132 degrees C.1 DU also easily burns, just like magnesium, upon penetration, adding to the effectiveness of the ammo as an armor piercing device.14c When the projectile cuts through the armor, the DU penetrator and parts of the tank get so hot that it literally vaporizes. Anywhere from 18-70% of the DU usually oxidizes (depending on type of impact).14c For example, direct impact yields 99% oxidization. A Uranium oxide (which consists of insoluble UO2 and soluble UO3) aerosol forms, where 50-96% of the particles are less than 10 microns and hence can be inhaled easily.2

http://cseserv.engr.scu.edu/StudentWebPages/IPesic/ResearchPaper.htm


This photograph most shows the different types of 120 mm DU tank shells. The two on the far left are high-explosive rounds. The pointed shells are kinetic energy projectile rounds. Image Source: P6
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-01-06 04:44 PM
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9. "Sickened Iraq vets cite depleted uranium"
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/08/12/is_an_armament_sickening_us_soldiers/

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Since he left a bombed-out train depot in Iraq, his gums bleed. There is more blood in his urine, and still more in his stool. Bright light hurts his eyes. A tumor has been removed from his thyroid. Rashes erupt everywhere, itching so badly they seem to live inside his skin. Migraines cleave his skull. His joints ache, grating like door hinges in need of oil.

There is something massively wrong with Herbert Reed, though no one is sure what it is. He believes he knows the cause, but he cannot convince anyone caring for him that the military's new favorite weapon has made him terrifyingly sick.

In the sprawling bureaucracy of the Department of Veterans Affairs, he has many caretakers. An internist, a neurologist, a pain-management specialist, a psychologist, an orthopedic surgeon and a dermatologist. He cannot function without his stupefying arsenal of medications, but they exact a high price.

"I'm just a zombie walking around," he says.

Reed believes depleted uranium has contaminated him and his life. He now walks point in a vitriolic war over the Pentagon's arsenal of it -- thousands of shells and hundreds of tanks coated with the metal that is radioactive, chemically toxic, and nearly twice as dense as lead.

A shell coated with depleted uranium pierces a tank like a hot knife through butter, exploding on impact into a charring inferno. As tank armor, it repels artillery assaults. It also leaves behind a fine radioactive dust with a half-life of 4.5 billion years.



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architect359 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 04:24 PM
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10. Depleted Uranium just shouldn't be used at all...
...no matter what it's advantages in offensive or defensive applications. I'm not sure about its radioactive properties (will need to study that more) but it's toxicity level itself should be cause for great concern. As another poster reminds us, the material will burn and vaporize into the air. The only reason that I can think of that there isn't a great outcry about this is the fact that we don't tons of this material spread across our countryside as spent rounds and residual fallout from explosions.

I'll admit that I'm rather ignorant about the Depleted Uranium discussion but in the little bit of literature I've read, I'm surprised that no one has raised the issue of the sheer quantity of the material being "dumped" in the battlefields. Also bear in mind that the "battlefield" now includes virtaully all of the civilian populated areas as well. On top of that, no matter where it is being fought, war inevitably affects the local ecology. Depleted Uranium is just another f*** you to the whole miserable affair.
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