Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Warren Ellis on art and the current political climate

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
dwckabal Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 01:03 PM
Original message
Warren Ellis on art and the current political climate
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 01:04 PM by dwckabal
If you read comics, you KNOW Warren Ellis. If you've never read anything by him, go get TRANSMETROPOLITAN right now! Here's his latest column from artbomb.net:

<-SNIP->

Today (Monday), I read an interview with Marilyn Manson where he explains his evocation of CABARET in his recent work as a reaction to present times, Thirties vaudeville as a haven from politics. Notably, however, Manson describes himself as broadly apolitical, which makes you wonder exactly who said haven was devised for. To me, it's an interesting mess. CABARET's paean to decadence only gains its enduring power from context -- the knowledge that the Third Reich awaits it upstream, which lends it the authentic final doom of all true legends, Ragnarok and Robin Hood's final arrow shot to mark his grave. Wearing the clothes of the period doesn't reiterate the lessons of the time or the film -- that you can't hide from evil, that the machinery of conservative societies will always find a way to crush the Too Much Fun Club -- but it does produce other, perhaps graver signifiers.

<-SNIP->

Now, I have a lot of time for Marilyn Manson these days. Much of his music doesn't do a lot for me, but I enjoy his persona, himself as art. He's a clever man, and I suspect his apolitics are not all artifice. He's thirty-four years old now, an experienced artist and an experienced media operator, and he must know his audience. And America, and Britain, currently exist in a political dead zone. George W Bush does not have credible opposition, and whoever's put up against him in 2004 will likely be crippled by the nomination process in any case. In Britain, the same holds -- the leader of the opposition, Michael Howard, is a leering, unelectable monster with criminal tendencies who was until recently shunned and vilified by his own party as a moral mutant.

<-SNIP->

And certainly we're in a time where anger in art has largely gone away. This isn't the cool detachment of post-modernism, so much as just a turning inward. The kind of stuttery lurching rise of emo over the last couple of years is a case in point: a total defanging of pretty much any working definition of punk in service of whining about how you've got no fucking girlfriend. "Emotional punk" = Crying Ugly Kid Music. There should be a sign in guitar shops: "We reserve the right to refuse sale to people who want to write songs about wearing glasses and being dumped by girls who didn't know your name anyway."

It's understandable, and certainly it doesn't hurt for Manson to bolster the "outsider" self-perception of his audience.

But it bugs me nonetheless. Is it a creative reaction, to answer "nothing's happened" with "nothing's going to happen and you can't do shit about it"? Is that doing anything more than prepping an alienated audience for a doomed life of dying your hair back to brown and getting a job in insurance? Is that where we've ended up? That all popular culture has to say is, "well, fuck it"? Even as a transient pose?

The lesson of the 1930s is that, in a time of encroaching conservatism and creeping repression, the correct response is not to flush your fucking spine down the toilet.


Comments?


The whole article is here:

http://www.artbomb.net/brainpowered.jsp
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 01:12 PM
Response to Original message
1. that's great
I'm gonna read the whole article later.

He's right on as far as I'm concerned.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dwckabal Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. be sure to read the rest of his stuff there
Edited on Fri Dec-05-03 01:21 PM by dwckabal
IMHO, he one of the top-notch writers around. Always hits the nail right on the head.

on edit: especially this one
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-03 07:32 PM
Response to Original message
3. Kick for all us old-time Ellis fans
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dwckabal Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-12-03 11:31 PM
Response to Original message
4. New post--responses to last week's article
http://www.artbomb.net/brainpowered.jsp

<-snip->

And for the several creatures who complained that in their perception I somehow equated American neo-conservatives with Nazis last week; you're retarded. You are intellectually diseased animals who represent everything the human race has to overcome. Even junkies like Rush Limbaugh laugh at you people. Oh, and pre-emptively -- whenever I use the word "retarded," I get a dozen shrill emails from sensitive students using university connection time. Get fucking jobs.

<-snip->

A very short, clumsy precis of how things are supposed to work. We pay taxes. The government takes part in market activity. The taxes and emolument are paid into a common treasury, called the Treasury. The Treasury is used to pay for what people need. I imagine most people are still with me, because roads don't just appear in the night and fire departments aren't operated by slot-machine. Most of the people I just lost are the American libertarians who believe taxes are the only thing between them and owning rocketships, the heavy anarchists who presumably think the future is breatharian, and the serious tribalists who intend to trade food for wicker baskets what they made themselves. People who like electricity are, by and large, still on the same page.

<-snip->

I'm happy to pay tax. I'd like to pay less, because some months it's hard to find the scratch to pay for new vats of boiling oil to pour on the peasants from my battlements. But I'm happy to pay. Because it means the firemen will come when I call, it means I'll get treated when I'm sick, and because it means that our children will receive the education necessary to, we live in hope, make better choices in their adulthood.

And, as a professional writer and a man who's been out in the world a long time, I can remind you that a Treasury is a common wealth, not banditry, and it's there to be spent for a common good.

Or did you like the idea of yet another generation looking up at the night sky and seeing nothing but the dull septic glow of McDonalds logos?


Fucking brilliant.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 06:37 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC