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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 02:26 PM
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The environmental "surge" you're not hearing anything about....
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/

THE NEWS

January 8, 2007 -- The environmental "surge" you're not hearing anything about.

According to U.S. maritime industry sources, tanker captains are reporting an increase in onboard alarms from hazard sensors designed to detect hydrocarbon gas leaks and, specifically, methane leaks. However, the leaks are not emanating from cargo holds or pump rooms but from continental shelves venting increasing amounts of trapped methane into the atmosphere. With rising ocean temperatures, methane is increasingly escaping from deep ocean floors. Methane is also 21 more times capable of trapping heat in the atmosphere than carbon dioxide.

Fuel tankers reporting increased methane venting from sea beds.

Meanwhile, a strong natural gas odor was reported this morning in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Jersey City, Weehawken, and Newark. Last August, a similar unexplained gas odor sent people to the hospital in Staten Island and Queens. Although methane is odorless, natural methane venting is often accompanied by the venting of acrid hydrogen sulfide, a byproduct of bacterial decomposition.

In other global warming news, the warm temperatures on the U.S. East Coast are resulting in early blooming of the cherry trees and azaleas in Washington, DC and New York City, apple and peach trees in Maryland, and roses, forsythias, and crocuses in Connecticut. A number of people along the East Coast are suffering from allergies usually experienced in April. Monk parakeets from South America have invaded the Chicago area.

George W. Bush continues to insist that global warming is "silly science" based on "fuzzy math." Corporate news media masters are pressuring plastic-faced and neatly-coiffured TV weathermen to treat the current abnormal warm weather as an unexpected "gift" for their viewers. The latte-sipping and SUV-driving yuppies in Washington, DC are certainly taking the current weather abnormality in stride -- they almost appear ecstatic about the weather, obviously unaware that the future of our planet is hanging on a thread.

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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 02:45 PM
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1. The CURRENT problem of global warming is far more serious.......
than any MSM outlet is reporting.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 03:40 PM
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2. How's this for a non sequitur?
"Meanwhile, a strong natural gas odor was reported this morning in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Jersey City, Weehawken, and Newark. Last August, a similar unexplained gas odor sent people to the hospital in Staten Island and Queens. Although methane is odorless, natural methane venting is often accompanied by the venting of acrid hydrogen sulfide, a byproduct of bacterial decomposition."

Somehow the reader assumes that the NYC/NJ events are related to methane hydrates--esp. with that H2S business. But these two facts unrelated to each other don't make the paragraph any more relevant to his topic.

You don't get a natural gas odor from hydrogen sulfide: That's the usual 'rotten egg' odor.

String along unrelated facts knowing that people assume that somehow they're relevant and support your point, and you get people to build your fallacies for you. *-speak redux.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 03:49 PM
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3. hmmm.
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 03:52 PM by nashville_brook
just wondering -- since most people don't know the chemical difference, aren't they going to say "natural gas" odor, regardless?
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 04:11 PM
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6. Possibly.
But I've smelled both, and there's no way I could confuse them. The stuff they put in natural gas to give it an odor contains sulfur, but they're different.

A lot of people have smelled both rotten eggs and natural gas. I've never heard anybody mix them up. Except Madsen, but his mixing them up when it serves his interest doesn't surprise me.

(To be honest, my sense of smell is sufficiently screwed up that I think that doped natural gas smells kind of nice. Not rotten eggs, however.)
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 04:03 PM
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5. Gotta agree with ya, igil
Those are two different smells. They could be confused by the untrained nose, perhaps, but surely in all of NYC there is at least ONE trained nose.

Not only that, but natural effusion of gasses due to temperature flux does not seem to be a "one day" thing, but gradual and detectable. The NYC situation doesn't seem to fit the mold.

And if it is Madsen, another reason to doubt the connection. That feller is not one of our shining examples of journalistic integrity.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 03:51 PM
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4. Do we have a source other than Wayne Madsen?
Edited on Mon Jan-08-07 03:52 PM by crispini
I'm not saying this isn't it, but I'd really like to see some footnotes from some scientists.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-08-07 04:29 PM
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7. Google...seabed+methane+leaks
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