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Daveparts Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:37 AM
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The Dumb Bleat Towards War



The professionally clueless trying to explain the criminally mindless, bleat on. You know how I know we are going to war with Iran? Because George Bush swears were not and Israel says they will if we don’t attack the old good cop bad cop scenario. The military gives briefings showing fragments of shells saying this is proof positive of Iranian influence. They insist you can tell by the welding, excuse me but I assume we are talking about machine welding here not hand welding? If we are talking about machine welding that’s the dumbest thing I’ve heard since “Major combat operations have ended” as a machine operates as it is set to operate and there are no national settings. There is no foreman checking at the beginning of his shift to make sure the machine is set on Iranian.

Yet this is their proof and we are going to war with it, The New York Times front page leads with pure propaganda yet again they’ve never heard mothers old adage fool me once shame on you fool me twice and I’m damn stupid. The Sunday talks shows argue not should we go to war but why we have to go to war. The fix is in; cards down the foremen in the administration have set the machines to Full propaganda, American. The Democrats Hillary Barack and John Edwards all agree with George Bush and John McCain

The Parade Magazine published Feb.11th cover story “Who is the Worlds Worst Dictator? Our annual report” Number three on the list is Sayyid Ali Khamenei of Iran never mind that Iran has an elected President Parade insists Ali Khamenei leader of the twelve man ruling council is a dictator. “This regime has increasingly suppressed freedom of expression” Earth to Parade, look in the mirror!

But then why does Iran want a nuclear bomb? Who says they want a bomb because they’ve have all that oil they don’t need nuclear power. In the 1970’s US oil production peaked and even the most loosely informed can see the changes wrought in the US economy because of it. Iranian oil production peaked in 1974 as well and is now almost 25% below that 1974 level. Every barrel of oil used domestically is a barrel that cannot be sold for foreign exchange. Now if you were the leader of such a country what would you do to guarantee? the energy needs of your people in the next twenty years?

But the Iranians are fanatics bent on exporting their radical Islamic revolution! Either that is not true or the Iranians are really bad at it. Lets look at their neighbors India and Pakistan are at a near constant state of war with each other yet we make nuclear deals with India. India renounced the nuclear non-proliferation treaty the Iranians did not.
The Iranians have opened their program to numerous and repeated inspections and the US and Israel threaten war. The US in the most one-sided deal since the Barbary pirates
trades nuclear fuel for mangos.

Pakistan is the birthing place of the Taliban and when US forces installed the new puppet government in Afghanistan where did the Taliban run to? Where did Osama Bin Laden run to? When 9/11 Lead highjacker Mohamed Atta was wired one hundred thousand dollars it came from the Pakistani intelligence service. But hey, they are our friends our nuclear friends when they agreed to stop AQ Kahn from exporting nuclear technology our pals placed him under house arrest at his palatial villa and as Cartman would say “sweet.” And for their cooperation the US sells our pals 36 new advanced F16 fighter aircraft while at the same time the Pakistanis announce joint production of their own fighter aircraft. Is this diplomacy? Sell both sides weapons then hide and hope for the best?

Here is the crux when dealing with other nuclear powers you ask you cajole you bribe but you don’t pound your fist or saber rattle. The case for Iraq aiding terrorist was threadbare at best but Iraq didn’t have Nuclear weapons the case for Pakistan aiding terrorists is documented and ongoing. But Pakistan has a bomb and it’s not that we think they would use it but they could. Just like dealing with a man with a gun even though he hasn’t pulled it or pointed it at anyone just knowing he could changes fundamentally the way you deal with him.

When in the 1980’s when Israel bombed Iraq’s nuclear reactor Arab leaders formally protested but privately breathed a sigh of relief. Israel felt such a program was a direct threat to their safety but it was far more a threat to Arab safety than Israeli safety. Saddam would have used his nuclear status to lean on his Arab neighbors like Tony Soprano. Saddam was a brute but he knew if he ever threatened Israel with his bomb the jig would be up toot sweet.

Iran’s neighbor to the north China is the fastest growing economic and military power in the world and Iran has cordial relations with the Chinese but that’s today when the Chinese are buying Iranian oil twenty years from now when the oil flow becomes a trickle what then how will the relationship be changed. Will Iran be a threat to China?
Or will the opposite be true? So Iran is surrounded by nuclear powers yet maintains good relationships with all of them. They haven’t exported their revolution anywhere in twenty-five years

Except of course Iraq, the bitter bloody war fought between the two nations was started by Saddam and fought with US supplied weapons and using the US logic of Iranian weapons killing US soldiers in Iraq wouldn’t this give the Iranians a legitimate grievance against the United States government? The administration claims the Iranians want to destabilize Iraq for there own interests but why would Iran want to try and help destabilize Iraq the US is doing such a good job of it why would the Iranians want to try and help Gilligan?

For an administration saddled with two debacles why go for the trifecta? For one thing if the US can fabricate the case that they were forced into a war then the metrics are changed as to how we judge success or failure. The administrations excuse box is running on empty this would give them a brand new one. It will soon be election season and the Republicans only hope of retaining the White House is appealing to voter patriotism they can’t depend on the Democrats nominating Hillary Clinton they must take a proactive approach and the final reason is they want to and Israel wants to the Neo con agenda calls for a global hegemony over the worlds oil resources and they haven’t deviated from the neo con play book in six years and they’re not about to start now.

For Israel this is a no brainier if you can get your friend to knock off your adversaries it frees the politicians hands no messy explaining about casualties to crying mothers. And Israel gets to keep its most precious weapon and the only important reason to Israel at all in this fracas maintaining its exclusive membership in the Middle East nuclear club even if it only as a silent partner. But Iran is not Iraq there is no Saddam and save Israel no country in the region fears Iran, but just like the man in the room with the gun when another man shows up with his own gun you’re no longer as powerful as you were.

That’s the problem with nuclear proliferation and this administration has done more to promote it than Edward Teller. Fear of your neighbor’s intent causes a desire for more weapons and more weapons cause fear in your neighbors of your intent. The President singling out nations as axis of evils breeds paranoia like rabbits and our unilateral invasions reinforces that paranoia as legitimate. The use of subterfuge propaganda and
Innuendo destroys any moral high ground that we once might have had making it impossible to judge fairly any claims we make as the ground erodes out from under our feet.

Vladimir Putin the lawfully elected President of Russia has said, speaking at a conference of the world's top security officials, including Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani, Putin said nations "are witnessing an almost uncontained hyper use of force in international relations."
"One state, the United States, has overstepped its national borders in every way," he told the 250 officials, including more than 40 defense and foreign ministers.
"This is very dangerous: Nobody feels secure anymore because nobody can hide behind international law," he said through his translator.
"This is nourishing an arms race with the desire of countries to get nuclear weapons," Putin who cannot run for reelection in 2008 was listed as number 20 on Parades list of Worlds Worst Dictators and the dumb bleat goes on.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:41 AM
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1. great post, Daveparts!
:hi:

Welcome to DU!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:45 AM
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2. Good summary and you can also add that it was preordained in PNAC
...which has been the Bush/Cheney road-map for world conquest for an Imperial America
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:45 AM
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3. We have to get these idiots out before the end of the year!
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