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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:06 AM Original message |
'Wash Times' Columnist Uses Fabricated Abraham Lincoln Quote |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. Doesn't even sound like Abe. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. That was my first thought. Definitely not the language cadence of Lincoln's times, either. n/t |
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Selteri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
2. Playbook - If you cna't use the truth, make it up |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
3. J. Michael Waller, concedes that the words are his, not Lincoln's. |
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Paranoid Pessimist (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Not only were the quote marks an accident, but . . . |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:17 AM Original message |
It's interesting that it is hard to find a solid debunking of that quote.... |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
4. Isn't there some kind of Association of Journalists |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. There are multiple professional journalist orgs... |
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Phredicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
5. I never even heard of anyone claiming Lincoln said that before; |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism". Thomas Jefferson |
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OneAngryDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
6. ''You can fool some of the people all of the time...'' |
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Felinity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Is that really a Lincoln quote? |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. No, PT Barnum |
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Felinity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Thanks, my head was spinning. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Oxford Dictionary of Quotations thinks Lincoln, but "also attributed to Barnum" |
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Tracer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. This quote gets attributed to Lincoln all the time ... |
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montanto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. great website, recommending to my students. nt |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
8. Lincoln was a strong opponent of unjust wars. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
51. Lincoln in the U.S. House of Representatives on the War with Mexico |
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Tin Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
10. Has anybody else noticed a broader meme comparing Bush to Lincoln? |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Speaking of popular presidents.... |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
13. "Frank Gaffney, Jr. is an idiot." |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. At least Washington cannot tell a lie |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 11:17 AM Original message |
Contact info for the Times... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
20. Thank you. May not do much good, but it's still worth the effort to try. n/t |
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fidgeting wildly (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
15. Truthiness at work! |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
16. Lincoln NEVER fought Congress, he acted as Congress's Agent through the Civil War |
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gordianot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
18. A Moon paper. |
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raggedcompany (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
19. Washington Times = Sun Myung Moon & Unification Church mouthpiece. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
21. The line at the end of the article says it all |
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IWantAChange (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
24. The zillionth example of Repug BizzaroWorld - facts/truth - who cares?? |
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louis-t (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
26. Anyone who uses phony quotes or lies to go to war |
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Dudley_DUright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
27. Glenn Greenwald (Salon) has a must read blog post about this today |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
43. thanks, I missed that earlier. A great article. nt |
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cain_7777 (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
28. Their only viable strategy is to lie because toe to toe they can't hold water |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
29. Well, as George Washington said, |
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dsharp88 (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
30. Hey, this is fun. Let's make up some of our own... |
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Cheap_Trick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
31. jumping jeezus on a pogo stick |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
33. Gaffney is a (w)hore of a different color. |
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shain from kane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
34. Gaffney is a member of the PNAC, who pushed for regime change in Iraq. He wouldn't want to see his |
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Castleman (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
35. I got a quote right here for him... |
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johnlal (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
36. George Carlin said it! |
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Castleman (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
37. Oh, wait, here's a better one... |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
38. It must be really really hard for them to find good quotes to back up their BS with. (nt) |
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RobertSeattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
40. If Gaffney had any honor, he'd resign after this |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
41. An editor at Insight magazine? Isn't that the publication that started the Obama/Madrasa smear? |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
42. Why would this surprise anyone here? The Wash.Times fabricated the "Pelosi Demands 757" story too! |
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Cell Whitman (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
44. WHY NOT GO ON THE OFFENSE - here's how!!! |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-15-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Thanks for posting. Here's to all our newly registered DU friends: |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-15-07 01:16 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I remember that |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-15-07 03:05 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. The farce was not a farce for the a$$hat$ in charge of that farce. |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
45. ra-row - I hear a 'Worst Person in the World' |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
46. What a moran |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
47. Frank Gaffney? A leading neoconservative? Lie to us? |
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culturalelite (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
49. just the opposite |
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BeachBuckeye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-14-07 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
50. They've been using this for over 4 years |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-15-07 12:55 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. And it's been proven over and over again: the more they lie, |
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NovaNardis (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-15-07 02:25 AM Response to Original message |
55. It's the Bush Doctrine 2.0 |
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qnr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-15-07 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
57. It reminds me of that famous quote by George Washington: |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-15-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Wow! I've seen that one many times! George Washington! Amazing. |
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connecticut yankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-15-07 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
58. As my dear Mother used to say -- |
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Nevernever (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-16-07 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
60. Given that it was the Moonie Times that "misquoted" Lincoln, |
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DeeDeeNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-16-07 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
61. Update |
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Zambero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-16-07 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
62. Using fabricated quotes to prop up a fabricated war |
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