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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:06 PM
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Easter Surprise: Attack on Iran, New 9/11… or Worse
“There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.” – George W. Bush, September 2002

“This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous… Having said that, all options are on the table.” – George W. Bush, February 2005

The Bush administration continues moving closer to a nuclear attack on Iran, and we ignore the obvious buildup at our peril.

Russian media is sounding alarms. In February, ultra-nationalist leader Vladimir Shirinovsky warned that the US would launch a strike against Tehran at the end of this month. Then last week, the Russian News and Information Agency Novosti (RIA-Novosti) quoted military experts predicting the US will attack Iran on April 6th, Good Friday. According to RIA-Novosti, the imminent assault will target Iranian air and naval defense capabilities, armed forces headquarters as well as key economic assets and administration headquarters. Massive air strikes will be deployed, possibly tactical nuclear weapons as well, and the Bush administration will attempt to exploit the resulting chaos and political unrest by installing a pro-US government.

Sound familiar? It’s Iraq déjà vu all over again, and we know how well that war has gone.

Seymour Hersh has published numerous articles in The New Yorker detailing the Bush administration’s plans to invade Iran. His latest, “The Redirection,” discusses participation in Iran-based clandestine operations, the kidnapping of hundreds of Iranians (including many “humanitarian and aid workers”) by US forces and the shocking revelation that an Iran-Contra-type scandal has been run out of Vice President Dick Cheney’s office with some of the illicit funds going to groups “sympathetic to al-Qaeda.”

“The Redirection” also reports that the Pentagon has been planning to bomb Iran for a year and that a recently-established group connected to the Joint Chiefs of Staff is formulating an assault strategy to be implemented “upon orders from the President, within twenty-four hours.” Hersh notes that current capabilities “allow for an attack order this spring,” possibly when four US aircraft-carrier battle groups are scheduled to be in the Persian Gulf simultaneously.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/03/28/150/
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:10 PM
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1. If that happens I think
the American people will be beyond the point of no return and will rise to demand Impeachment. I believe the Bushies believe the country will rally behind them. They are of course completely wrong again.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:11 PM
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2. Good luck for cannon fodder after the blow back.
:eyes: It will take more than calling up 1800 Marine Individual Ready Reserves to fill up the ranks after we've bombed a country that has COMPETENT agents and operatives all over the FREAKING WORLD!!! :scared:

If the Unitary Executive does this shit, we have, in essence, kicked open the Gates of Hell. :grr: :nuke:
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:22 PM
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4.  Yes I keep reading about he easter surprise
Remember the video "Union for Concerned Scientist" put out months ago...

millions will die, Mike Malloy was talking about it at the time.

I'm afraid this will be the undoing of the US for keeps, no matter how mad people get. They will be all over us like snake oil, the entire world.

I use to dream of a military coup here, but they got rid of all the Generals of conscience.

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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:37 PM
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8. Wes Clark, where aree you?
HELP US ALL!!!!!!
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:38 PM
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9. Which is, what they want...
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:13 PM
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3. World War Three is what all neoconservatives have been hoping
...and praying for and now Bush will begin it in just nine days. Has everyone converted all of there assets into gold yet?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:34 PM
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6. The "political elite" can sacrifice their sons and daughters ...
NO, they can't have my beloved children, nieces and nephews. :thumbsdown:
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 01:28 PM
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23. Nor can they have mine
I don't want ANY of our loved ones to be sacrificed on the altar of neocon greed. I don't want any Iranian parents to lose their loved ones, either. We are all human, and need and deserve peace.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 07:24 PM
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24. yup, this their golden hour...Brit standoff the setup
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Star80 Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:33 PM
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5. He Has Blown Up His Political Capital;
Maybe it was that last child he killed in his idiotic jihad.

I really don't think the military will follow his orders at this point. I think the rational brains outweigh the addled ones.

The bluster is all he has left. The fear and terrorism he uses to control us is not working any more.

IMHO, if you fall for his scare tactics, the real terrorists win.

Just how will we get out of the abysmal hole he has dug for us? I have no idea. But I do still have hope, and so should all of you.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:36 PM
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7. I hope there's enough integrity and moral courage left in the JCS that
Edited on Wed Mar-28-07 04:38 PM by ShortnFiery
they will all retire in unison should this madman order a bombing of Iran. Iran has agents all over the world. When their agents HIT, we'll feel it BAD, especially those of us in Large Cities and the Nation's Capital. :scared: :nuke: :scared:

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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:39 PM
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10. Okay guys you're scaring the crap out of me!
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mile18blister Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 08:19 PM
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18. If the bomb is dropped...
In the last few seconds of my life...

I will pray for forgiveness for the wrongs I've done.
I will pray that death will be relatively quick and painless.
I will pray for my friends and loved ones.
I will pray for the innocents who do survive.

and finally,

I will pray that the bunkers that the BFEE vermin jump into are worthless, defective tunnels built by one of *'s cronies on a no-bid contract!!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 12:11 PM
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26. Judging from some of the DUers who have been willing to give up
Edited on Sat Mar-31-07 12:11 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
their own moral sense to follow orders (and who have vigorously defended the practice of following orders unquestioningly as "necessary for military discipline"), I fear that the military WOULD go along with this. They "have a job to do," you know. :puke:

There are times when I wish we, along with as many countries as possible, would follow the lead of Costa Rica and abolish our military. (Not coincidentally, Costa Rica is the most prosperous country in Central America.)
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:40 PM
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11. I have been reading about this off and on
I know it's true and I'm terrified, I feel so sick....

How do the rest of you handle this prophesy, every time I hear about this, I have a hard time functioning:scared: :cry:
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:51 PM
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13. I look for something positive,
And try not to think of what ifs, but I think I'll go get some extra bottled water just in case.
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:56 PM
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14. I'm suppose to be moving across country
with WWIII, I'm sorry I can't be positive :cry:
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:13 PM
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15. should I color Easter Eggs
I am so afraid living in this country. If only I had the forth sight when I was young.

I am sure many DU's feel this way...
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 04:42 PM
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12. But wait!
They have to blame Iran for something first, don't they? Knock on wood, there's no 2nd 9/11, and unless they do it(MIHOP) in the next couple of days, I don't see how they could just go attack without a really big reason...
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 05:41 PM
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16. Don't be such worry warts folks.
Even if the US does bomb Iran and the Strait of Hormuz is closed to oil shipments, your president has taken steps to ensure you will still have enough gas to drive to the mall and shop.


Big U.S. oil supply to offset Mideast Gulf disruption
Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:53am ET160

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States could use its large Strategic Petroleum Reserve to counter a short-term disruption in Middle East Gulf oil shipments caused by tensions with Iran, the head of the U.S. Energy Information Administration said Wednesday.

"We have substantial emergency supplies" of oil to offset problems in Gulf shipping," EIA's Guy Caruso told reporters.

Oil prices shot up this week as traders worried that a dispute the West has with Iran's nuclear program and Iran's continued holding of U.K. Royal Navy personnel could escalate and result in disruptions to shipping through the Strait of Hormuz, which handles about a third of the world's seaborne oil shipments.

"There is no need to panic" among oil traders over possible Gulf oil shipping disruptions, Caruso said.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2007-03-28T155312Z_01_N28302785_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA-OIL-SUPPLIES.xml&src=rss&rpc=22


Now while the US forces might well end up using nuclear bombs (not to mention the more "conventional" depleted uranium laden bunker busters and cruise missiles) in the attacks, what's a little increase in background radiation and maybe some toxic heavy metal poisoning (mainly to just another bunch of brown skinned folks) compared to the knowledge that the USA gave another rogue, terrorist state a good shit kicking and got control of all their oil to boot, a real two fer one deal.


Military planners are said to favor the use of conventional weapons. The use of tactical nuclear weapons, which are now part of the Middle East war theater arsenal, are not explicitly contemplated, at least in the first round of the US sponsored Blitzkrieg. However, the fact that nuclear weapons are acknowledged as a possible choice in the conventional war theater is indicative that their use is an integral part of military planning.

SNIP

CONPLAN 8022 is 'the overall umbrella plan for sort of the pre-planned strategic scenarios involving nuclear weapons.'

'It's specifically focused on these new types of threats -- Iran, North Korea -- proliferators and potentially terrorists too,' he said. 'There's nothing that says that they can't use CONPLAN 8022 in limited scenarios against Russian and Chinese targets.' (According to Hans Kristensen, of the Nuclear Information Project, quoted in Japanese economic News Wire, op cit)

The use of tactical nuclear weapons is contemplated under CONPLAN 8022 alongside conventional weapons, as part of the Bush administration's preemptive war doctrine. In May 2004, National Security Presidential Directive NSPD 35 entitled Nuclear Weapons Deployment Authorization was issued. While its contents remains classified, the presumption is that NSPD 35 pertains to the deployment of tactical nuclear weapons in the Middle East war theater in compliance with CONPLAN 8022.

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20070221&articleId=4888



Uranium Wars:

The Pentagon Steps Up
its Use of
Radioactive Munitions

by Marc W. Herold

SNIP

The widely-used Lockheed Martin GBU-28 5,000 lb. 'bunker-buster' bomb with a BLU-109 penetrator head carried only by the Air Force's F-15E's and B-2s, contains 1.5 metric tons of depleted uranium, compared to only five kilograms in the 120 mm shell. According to the GBU-28 Bunker Buster animation on USA Today the warhead is "classified".6 The 30 mm PGU-14 armor-piercing cannon shell contains 4,650 grains <0.66 pounds > of extruded DU, alloyed with 0.75 weight percent titanium.7 The Olin Corporation is the sole maker in the U.S. of DU antitank rounds, and its foundation funds "research" which purports to show that DU has no harmful health effects.

An "improved" version of this bomb - the GBU-37B, made by Northrop Grumman - with a BLU-113 warhead also contains DU. Another bunker-penetrating munition dropped on caves and tunnels in Afghanistan is the AGM-130 - widely used in the Tora Bora campaign - which is a 2,900 pound, rocket-propelled bomb fired by helicopters and F-15E's up to 40 miles away from its target.8 Other earlier versions of bunker-penetrating bombs include the GBU-15, GBU-24, GBU-27 and GBU-31.

The $231,000 GBU-37B bomb began being dropped upon Afghanistan on October 10, 2001 by B-2s flying out of Missouri. On October 22, Abdul Hemat of the Taliban's Bakhtar News Agency, announced that doctors in both Herat and Kandahar were reporting patients showing unusual toxic sickness symptoms which could not be identified.9 Two or three of the patients died mysteriously.10

http://www.cursor.org/stories/uranium.htm
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-28-07 07:28 PM
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17. *Do* something!
It's becoming clear: the Bush Administration seems to be on a warpath to Iran and they're stopping at nothing to make their case. This week, the administration has been busy making allegations of Iranian interference in Iraq based on flimsy evidence produced by anonymous witnesses <http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/13/world/middleeast/13weapons.html?ex=1329022800&en=440b2180d0b983de&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss>. High-ranking officials such as General Peter Pace, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff <http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/021307C.shtml>, are speaking out against the claims but Bush remains defiant in his accusations.

The situation is urgent, but we still have time to prevent this tragedy. We need to let Congress, the White House and all of our friends and neighbors know that we oppose any military action against Iran. Congress is on break from Feb 19-23, which means they will be back in their districts. This is a key opportunity to take your anti-war message to their doorstep. Here's how you can help:

- Send a letter to your local newspaper today. <http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizationsORG/vfp/pickMedia.jsp?letter_KEY=661> Our goal is to publish at least one letter to the editor in each congressional district so that Congress will see that their constituents are opposed to a war on Iran. Let's make sure Bush doesn't get away with yet another war of aggression in our name!

- Schedule a meeting with your member of Congress to talk about what they are doing to bring our troops home from Iraq and prevent a war against Iran. <http://www.votersforpeace.us/meetingguide.html>

- Send an email to your members of Congress demanding that they do everything possible to prevent any and all military action against Iran. <http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizationsORG/vfp/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=6699>

- Join an Occupation Project near you. Actions and trainings are taking place throughout the country and we encourage you to add to the growing list! <http://vcnv.org/event>

Will we let history repeat itself?

In 2003 the Bush Administration claimed that Iraq had ties to Al-Qaeda and that they had weapons of mass destruction. This time around, Iran has been hastily accused of illegally enriching uranium for nuclear weapons and on Feb 11, 2007, military personnel in Baghdad held a press conference claiming that Iran is making explosive devices that are being used in attacks on US troops in Iraq. The evidence? Pieces of an explosive device, anonymous witnesses and the erroneous assumption that the Shia are the main "insurgent" group in Iraq.

We cannot afford to forget the lessons of the war on Iraq: Four years into a war based on fabricated and flawed intelligence, we have seen the abhorrent result of our occupation and we face a more dangerous world as a result of our actions. Take a moment and watch this slideshow of the people, geography and culture of Iran <http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html>. We cannot stand by and let yet another country endure the death and destruction that has been heaped upon Iraq. Please join us today in making sure this does not happen again.

Sincerely,

Linda Schade
Executive Director
VotersForPeace.US

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 02:22 AM
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20. the abject refusal of out DEMOCRATIC Congress to recognize that the U.S. has been taken over . . .
by an unelected rogue government of lunatic warmongers is beyond incomprehensible at this point . . . it's downright infuriating . . .

if Congress doesn't act -- and act NOW -- the parameters of a devastating World War III already in place will assuredly become the blackest of realities . . . and the lasting legacy of this once great nation may well be the destruction of civilization as we know it -- and even the end of most life on the planet . . .
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 12:14 PM
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21. Wouldn't Iran blow up the Green Zone, for starters?
this is scary.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-29-07 12:21 PM
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22. the Brit hostage drama setting the stage
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 10:09 PM
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25. An attack on Iran, after the total collapse of sense in the pre-emptive
attack on the sovereign country of Iraq, must be grounds for immediate impeachment.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 12:13 PM
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27. It SHOULD be, but I predict that if the Dems propose such a move
there will be operatives on this board telling us that "during a crisis is not the time to impeach the president."

You know that's what will happen.
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